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Canadian rips Afghan elders- 'Disgusted' general demands to know why military wasn't warned...
Thestar.com ^ | 9/29/09 | Bill Graveland

Posted on 09/29/2009 12:10:19 PM PDT by Nachum

DEH-E BAGH, AFGHANISTAN–Canada's top soldier in Afghanistan pulled no punches at a hastily called meeting with Afghan village elders Monday after a roadside bomb blast sent another Canadian soldier to hospital.

Brig.-Gen. Jonathan Vance, the commander of Task Force Kandahar, was on his way to the model village of Deh-e-Bagh in the Dand district southwest of Kandahar city when shrapnel from a rocket-propelled grenade struck one of the vehicles in his convoy.

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TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghan; canadian; elders; rips; vance

1 posted on 09/29/2009 12:10:23 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum
Because you are a non-muslim infidel dog...
2 posted on 09/29/2009 12:12:22 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Nachum
Police said a suspect, a man who had family ties to the Taliban, had been arrested in connection to the bombing.

Shoot him, wrap him in pigskin, throw him in a hole and cover it over.

3 posted on 09/29/2009 12:15:21 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: 2banana
Because you are a non-muslim infidel dog...

That does not matter either Muslims kill Muslim faster than anyone else....

4 posted on 09/29/2009 12:16:18 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: Nachum

Shoot him, wrap him in pigskin, throw him in a hole and cover it over.

Or in this case maybe wrap him in Canadian Bacon...


5 posted on 09/29/2009 1:01:22 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: the_daug
That does not matter either Muslims kill Muslim faster than anyone else....

Obviously you have not spent time in a muslim country.

6 posted on 09/29/2009 4:47:14 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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7 posted on 09/29/2009 4:48:33 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: Nachum

The money quote from the story. Go Canada!


The incident angered Vance, who immediately demanded a shura – or meeting with village elders – at the Dand district centre. He wanted an explanation as to why villagers, who have benefited from Canadian aid and protection, didn’t bother to warn them about the bomb.

“It disgusts me that my soldiers can be hurt,” Vance said to 24 village elders in the shura, which lasted 50 minutes. “If we keep blowing up on the roads I’m going to stop doing development. If we stop doing development in Dand, I believe Afghanistan and Kandahar is a project that cannot be saved.

“There has to be a change starting now and we need to make sure the roads stay clear of IEDs,” he said, referring to deadly improvised explosive devices that have repeatedly caused Canadian casualties.

“If we don’t start getting some serious cooperation from the people ... then I wonder whether or not it’s worth another Canadian life.”


8 posted on 09/29/2009 4:51:18 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: Nachum
I'm finishing up my year long tour in Afghanistan. From my experience, there are two Afghanistans. The cities, like Kabul, Herat and Farah, can be saved. The people that live in the cities actually care about the future and want progress.

In sharp contrast are the Afghans that live in villages outside the cities. They are living in Biblical times. They have no concept of modernity or the world beyond their villages. They could care less about progress, America, or anything else. I don't think these places are necessarily pro-Taliban or Anti-America, I think they just don't give a crap. These people are living a subsistence existence. If it doesn't have anything to do with a roof over their heads or food in their bellies, they just don't give a crap. I mean that literally. That's their life aspiration: shelter and food.

These are the people that can't be saved, imo. These are the places where the Taliban live. I say we need to stop with the Mr. Nice Guy approach to these places. If we don't level them to the ground, we need to at least make it extremely uncomfortable for them.

9 posted on 09/29/2009 8:21:02 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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10 posted on 09/29/2009 8:22:06 PM PDT by Clive
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

Thanks for your service and prayers for your safe return.


11 posted on 09/29/2009 8:23:25 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (This tagline excerpted. To read more, click on MyOverratedBlog.com)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

Thanks for your service and prayers for your safe return.


12 posted on 09/29/2009 8:23:27 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (This tagline excerpted. To read more, click on MyOverratedBlog.com)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes
Thank you so much for posting here. We need to hear form guys like you who have walked the walk.

Prayers for your safekeeping, and for your buddies, also.

13 posted on 09/29/2009 10:08:38 PM PDT by happygrl (Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Shoot him, wrap him in pigskin, throw him in a hole and cover it over with sewage.
14 posted on 09/29/2009 10:12:17 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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