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Richard Dawkins's Jewish Problem
beliefnet ^ | September 29, 2009 | David Klinghoffer

Posted on 09/30/2009 11:46:34 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

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To: YHAOS

Your prolix evasion is entertaining but hollow, as all dodges are. I cannot answer the question—that is your job.

Do you believe that Catholics are Christian?


441 posted on 10/12/2009 12:38:18 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.
Your prolix evasion is entertaining but hollow, as all dodges are. I cannot answer the question—that is your job.

No, you can quite literally answer the question as easily as I. I’ve already given you my answer some time ago in an earlier post from this thread. Apparently, you were so busy looking to pick a fight that my answer either slipped your mind, or never registered on your brain in the first place. Presumably, my answer didn’t fit your purpose of the moment, so you gave it no notice. It’s not my ‘job’ to repeat, for your convenience, answers I’ve already provided. Scratch for it (normally, I might be inclined to accommodate your request, but your troll-like condescension and your Master Inquisitor demeanor, incline me not).

Come to think of it, although you may have responded tentatively, you’ve not provided a clear and definitive answer to my query: “It is Christ who is the judge as to who is, or is not, a Christian. Do you deny that?”

In the spirit of reciprocity, are you prepared to do that now?

442 posted on 10/12/2009 4:06:55 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: YHAOS

Troll is as Troll does. Doing Troll. IS Troll.

very good. (insert huge laugh here)


443 posted on 10/12/2009 4:07:07 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: YHAOS

“No, you can quite literally answer the question as easily as I.”

Is that your answer? Anyone can answer the question? If you were a witness at a trial, would you give that answer to the judge? Really, the death throes of an argument are an ugly thing, and best not shared with the public.

To your question—what impact does your personal answer have on your assessment of the Christianity of Catholics? Are they or are they not?


444 posted on 10/12/2009 5:59:40 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.
If you were a witness at a trial, would you give that answer to the judge?

But, I’m not a witness at a trial. I’m speaking to a troll. Your metaphor, however, gives away your mentality. You’ve just made it obvious (like we didn’t know it anyway) you fancy yourself a Master Inquisitor interrogating a miscreant. Whoops!

If I were a witness, my counselor would be objecting, “question asked and answered,” and the judge would be sternly instructing you to stop harassing the witness and to move on.

the death throes of an argument are an ugly thing, and best not shared with the public.

Certainly are (ugly) and certainly aren’t (best shared). I won’t even try to explain why you continue to insist on embarrassing yourself.

You’ve had your answer (twice). Move on.

To your question—what impact does your personal answer have on your assessment of the Christianity of Catholics? Are they or are they not?

Question asked and answered. If you’re no longer sure what the answer was, go dig it out.

Still trying to control both sides of the debate. You haven’t learned a thing. But, then, trolls never do (learn a thing). The question for you to answer is: “It is Christ who is the judge as to who is, or is not, a Christian. Do you deny that?”

You refused reciprocity once before and, after several futile attempts, wound up running away. Do you suppose repeating the same failed effort will produce a different result this time?

445 posted on 10/12/2009 8:08:44 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: YHAOS

“I’m speaking to a troll. “

That is your unsubstantiated assertion. If you have to cast aspersions against your debate partner to balance a position otherwise bereft of logic, then the only remaining value to this exchange is entertainment.

I am entertained. More, please.


446 posted on 10/13/2009 9:14:51 AM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: metmom
FWIW, someone pointing to what the Bible defines as a Christian

Someone pointing out what your interpretation of the Bible defines as a Christian. Interpretation is always the problem. The same book inspires the God Hates Fags whackos and the openly gay ministers. They just have two different interpretations.

447 posted on 10/13/2009 11:12:53 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: tpanther
try again... trans-for-ma-tive

You can't erase everything that happened with one word. Same God. Different relationship with the creation, but still the same unchanging God.

448 posted on 10/13/2009 11:14:28 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Unchanging God, new strategy, and the strawman about erasing everything is still a strawman.


449 posted on 10/13/2009 11:20:40 AM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Unchanging God, new strategy, and the strawman about erasing everything is still a strawman.


450 posted on 10/13/2009 11:23:10 AM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Acts 11:25-27 Then Barnabas went to Tarsus to look for Saul, and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.

Disciples, followers of Christ, were first called Christians at Antioch.

That wasn't so hard. Right from the Bible.

How many interpretations does that get?

451 posted on 10/13/2009 11:39:32 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Buck W.
That is your unsubstantiated assertion.

Your own behavior (towards others as much as myself) substantiates. Your refusal to reciprocate. Your habit of answering a question with a question – often unrelated to the initial question. Your attempts to start a diversionary argument (as you’ve done here). Your demand that your questions be answered and your refusal to answer others’ questions (assuming the black hood & robe of a Master Inquisitor). You may as well have a neon sign slapped on your forehead, flashing TROLL.

As I observed in an earlier post, “Still trying to control both sides of the debate. You haven’t learned a thing.” Trolls never do. You’re not here to learn anything – you’re here to push an agenda, and that’s fine. But, don’t think you’re not recognized for what you are. The question for you to answer is: “It is Christ who is the judge as to who is, or is not, a Christian. Do you deny that?” The process stops cold until you do.

Participate in the process, or run away as you did before.

Choose.

452 posted on 10/13/2009 1:15:41 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: tpanther
Unchanging God, new strategy, and the strawman about erasing everything is still a strawman.

Common tactic, if the argument hurts your side, call it a strawman.

453 posted on 10/13/2009 2:30:54 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: metmom
How many interpretations does that get?

Probably several thousand just today, not counting throughout history since then.

454 posted on 10/13/2009 2:31:39 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

You should understand your projections are every bit as ineffectual as your strawmen.

As far as the “argument hurts your side”...you never actually had an argument to begin with...so obviously I reject your premise.


455 posted on 10/13/2009 3:02:20 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: YHAOS

Apparently you missed post #425, in which your question was addressed. Why do you deny the Christianity of Catholics?

Are you posting from a TelePrompTer? Your long posts contain the verbiage of a BHO speech, similarly devoid of real content.


456 posted on 10/13/2009 4:19:36 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.
Apparently you missed post #425, in which your question was addressed.

Not even close, Bucko. You haven’t figured out the same failed attempts gets the same failed results? That produces a sort of squirrelly consequence.

Your long posts contain the verbiage of a BHO speech, similarly devoid of real content.

You’re trying too hard. It’s causing your brain to lockup. Focus, but relax.

The question was, “It is Christ who is the judge as to who is, or is not, a Christian. Do you deny that?”

You just can’t seem to believe that you don’t get to run both sides of the show. I told you, “Either we treat with each other as equals, or else the whole process comes to a screeching halt” (twice, I think).

Choose.

457 posted on 10/13/2009 5:29:45 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: YHAOS

” “It is Christ who is the judge as to who is, or is not, a Christian. Do you deny that?””

Do you deny that he has judged Catholics as Christians?

Culthood is not the glamorous life that you may think it is. I strongly suggest that you abandon any plans that you may have to join the Hare Christians.

Will you acknowledge the Christianity of Catholics, or will you follow the cult path of denial?

Choose.


458 posted on 10/13/2009 7:28:56 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.
Choose”.

LOL!

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, they say. I can, however, do without the low form of infantile imitation you proffer so ineptly.

I’ve told you (repeatedly) that either we treat with each other as equals, or not at all. You’ve had your question answered, and now you have a question before you: “It is Christ who is the judge as to who is, or is not, a Christian. Do you deny that?” Reply, or acknowledge that you cannot survive on a level field.

Choose.

459 posted on 10/13/2009 7:51:48 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: YHAOS

I am disappointed by your ongoing evasion, bobbing, and weaving, as I had high hopes for this discussion. Your inability to acknowledge the Christianity of Catholics is a disturbing exposition of an inner bigotry that I had suspected but denied.

I was wrong to do so. Your prejudice is real.

Equals? Hardly. You have a long way to go.


460 posted on 10/13/2009 8:11:36 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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