and America takes another one in the........
Posted on 09/30/2009 12:01:19 PM PDT by markomalley
Senate Finance Committee Democrats rejected a proposed a requirement that immigrants prove their identity with photo identification when signing up for federal healthcare programs.
Finance Committee ranking member Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) said that current law and the healthcare bill under consideration are too lax and leave the door open to illegal immigrants defrauding the government using false or stolen identities to obtain benefits.
Grassley's amendment was beaten back 10-13 on a party-line vote.
The bill, authored by committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.), would require applicants to verify their names, places of birth and Social Security numbers. In addition, legal immigrants would have to wait five years, as under current law, after obtaining citizenship or legal residency to access federal healthcare benefits such as Medicaid and the Children's Health Insurance Program or receive tax credits or purchase insurance through the exchange created by the legislation.
But the would not require them to show a photo ID, such as a drivers license. Without that requirement, the bill "remains dearly lacking when it comes to identification," Grassley said. "Frankly, I'm very perplexed as to why anyone would oppose this amendment," he said.
But Democratic Sen. Jeff Bingaman, who represents the border state of New Mexico, said that the type of fraud Grassley said he wants to prevent is highly uncommon. "The way I see the amendment, it's a solution without a problem," Bingaman said.
Unreal. The country is bankrupt.
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Nice doublespeak. If it's rare, what's the harm in requiring ID?
Send all illegals to the homes of the Democrats. They can get their health care there. These guys really don’t want to get re-elected do they?
The sad part is, they probably will get re-elected.
Joe Wilson was right.
Please...no wonder we're losing this country -- because you'd accept this totalitarian outrage as long as it required immigrants to have picture id's, or as long as it didn't explicitly endorse abortion (even though it does so implicitly by failing to explicitly forbid it).
No wonder we get bamboozled...we beg for it.
Bingaman isn’t trying to be disingenuous, he’s just plain stupider than a rock.
You're missing the point. This vote aptly demonstrates that Rep. Wilson was correct when he told Obama 'You Lie!' when Obama claimed health care reform would cover illegals.
Let me get this straight.
I’ll have to show a photo ID to buy a can of beer, but not to receive thousands of dollars in “free”, unconstitutional health care benefits from Uncle Sucker.
As a people, our priorities are f^%$ed up.
With the left, it's getting really, really hard to tell the difference any longer.
Bingaman isn’t trying to be disingenuous, he’s just plain stupider than a rock.
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How do these people get elected? And WHO elects them??
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“The way I see the amendment, it’s a solution without a problem,” Bingaman said.
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What a crock! The dims prefer a problem without a solution. If what he says were really what he believes there would be nothing for him to lose by voting for the measure. How can a solution without a problem cause any harm?
I think right now the plan is to get some stuff in the bill that will turn off the left...if we can do that it can be defeated.
I see. I certainly wasn't concerned with vindicating Wilson.
What’s more important is to continually point out that just about everything the Dems are saying about their agenda is a big, fat lie.
Joe Wilson has surpassed the legendary British reputation for understatement, which is amazing considering that he is from South Carolina, a state not normally known for such.
THAT'S why it PISSED me off when he apologized to the EVIL DEMON FREAKIN PUKING JOKER AND RATS!!
But the plan won’t include healthcare for illegals. Obama said so.
It’s a New Mexico thing.... :(
Illegals show IDs to buy alcohol. They show IDs to get utilities turned on. In some places to vote.
Yes this would be very unusual and difficult to do. The democrats are so exposed on this their asses have icicles hanging off them.
And we know they are showing IDs for alcohol, so many drunk ones are killing US citizens on the roads every damn day.
Of course our lovely Senator would say this in response to the concern that illegal immigrants would try to get healthcare and the question of whether ID should be required:
But Democratic Sen. Jeff Bingaman, who represents the border state of New Mexico, said that the type of fraud Grassley said he wants to prevent is highly uncommon. “The way I see the amendment, it’s a solution without a problem,” Bingaman said.
You lie!
This is what...the THIRD time Democrats have voted to oppose anything in this bill that would require citizenship verification?
In other news...voters elect pig; surprised to find pig crap on floor.
Un-freekin'-believable.
Of course our priorities are fuc*ked up, Wayne.
Our jackass president is spending tens of millions of taxpayer dollars to fly to Copenhagen in order to lobby the International Olympic Committee to choose that corrupt craphole, Chicago, as the host city for the 2016 Summer Olympics (with Oprah in tow).
Meanwhile, our brave troops are dying in Afghanistan, being forced to honor idiotic rules of engagement while Obamalamadingdong ignores requests from the military for an increase in troops.
Damn straight our priorities are f’ed up.
Truer Words Never Spoken
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RE: Nice doublespeak. If it’s rare, what’s the harm in requiring ID?
It might help prevent voter fraud that the dems are hell bent to accomplish. I really think our last free election was sin November of 04.
and America takes another one in the........
>How do these people get elected? And WHO elects them??
Virtually EVERY election I hear about County Clerks “finding” boxes of ballots... and, I heard from a friend (2nd hand) that on election day he saw the online site showed a giant shift from republican percentages to democratic percentages w/o the vote-numbers changing.
I’m inclined to believe that our “elections” are FAR less honest than we would like to think.
Party line vote, huh? Honest to God, if the Republicans don’t make bigtime hay out of this one...well...then I give up.
“If it’s rare, what’s the harm in requiring ID?”
Because Bingman is against anything that hinders illegal aliens!
Vote each of them who voted for this out of office!
Every POS I know that voted D will vote D again. They just don't care.
I’m not surprised.
We NEED to get this out there - ALL people NEED to contact their Senators on this ...
THIS is Freakin’ UNREAL !!!
They put language in the bill to specifically EXCLUDE illegals from signing up - BUT PROHIBIT the government from verifying with a photo ID ???
Finance Committee ranking member Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) said that current law and the healthcare bill under consideration are too lax and leave the door open to illegal immigrants defrauding the government using false or stolen identities to obtain benefits.Grassley's amendment was beaten back 10-13 on a party-line vote.
Grassley has been consistently critical, publicly pointing out failures of the legislation.
Herein Joe Wilson is vindicated.
Recall that Hussein DICK (Doper Islamo Commie Kenyan) wanted Bill Sanctuary Richardson as Secretary of Ron Brown.
But Bill disappeared under Hussein O'Bus with Rezko and grannie, Blago and Van the Red.
Grassley has a pocket full of BBs and they keep ending up under Baucus' shoes.
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