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E.P.A. Moves to Curtail Greenhouse Gas Emissions
New York Times ^ | September 30, 2009 | John M. Broder

Posted on 09/30/2009 2:50:59 PM PDT by reaganaut1

The Environmental Protection Agency announced a proposed rule Wednesday to begin regulating greenhouse gas emissions from thousands of power plants and large industrial facilities.

The proposed rule would require polluters to install the best available technology to capture greenhouse gases whenever a new plant is opened or significantly changed. The rule applies to any industrial plant that emits at least 25,000 tons of greenhouse gases a year.

When the rule is final, the EPA said operators of as many 14,000 sources of pollution would have to get additional permits.

The proposal, long anticipated and highly controversial, marks the first government move toward controlling the emissions blamed for the warming of the planet from stationary sources. The E.P.A. has already proposed an ambitious program to regulate greenhouse gas emissions from cars and trucks, expected to take effect early next year.

Lisa P. Jackson, the E.P.A. administrator, announced the proposal on the same day that Senators John F. Kerry and Barbara Boxer introduced sweeping climate change and energy legislation. While that bill faces a highly uncertain fate in the Senate, the Obama administration signaled its intention to move forward on global warming with or without a Congressional mandate.

Ms. Jackson, citing her authority under the Clean Air Act, said the new rule would apply only to facilities emitting 25,000 tons of carbon dioxide a year or more. That would exempt virtually all small businesses and farms and cover only the largest power plants, refineries and large-scale factories.

“By using the power and authority of the Clean Air Act,” Ms. Jackson said in a statement Wednesday afternoon, “we can begin reducing emissions from the nation’s largest greenhouse gas emitting facilities without placing an undue burden on the businesses that make up the vast majority of our economy.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: agenda; bho44; bhoenvironment; bhoepa; emissions; envirowackos; epa; epabrownshirts; globalwarming; greenhousegases
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Who needs to pass legislation when regulators can make laws?
1 posted on 09/30/2009 2:51:00 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: steelyourfaith; xcamel

global warming ping


2 posted on 09/30/2009 2:52:13 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1; rdl6989; Little Bill; IrishCatholic; Normandy; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; ...
Thanx !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

3 posted on 09/30/2009 2:53:31 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (Limit all U.S. politicians to two terms: One in office and one in prison!)
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To: reaganaut1

Brilliant move, E.P.A.

These people won’t be happy until we’re all riding bicycles.


4 posted on 09/30/2009 2:57:12 PM PDT by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: reaganaut1

Don’t sweat it. Just vote out the EPA bureaucrats in the next election.

Frankly, we get what we deserve. We put up with anything in this country.


5 posted on 09/30/2009 2:57:25 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: reaganaut1

I often see posts saying “Close the EPA.” Well, what exactly does it take to close an agency? A bill? A Presidential order? How hard would it really be?


6 posted on 09/30/2009 2:59:34 PM PDT by ZGuy
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To: reaganaut1

Agency regulations, unlike laws passed by Congrees, can be challenged on their merits. If it can be proven in court that AGW is not scientifically well-founded, the regulations can be overturned.


7 posted on 09/30/2009 3:00:36 PM PDT by sourcery (Party like it's 1776!)
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To: reaganaut1

Hey, congress, if we’re going to be ruled by czars and bureaucrats what do we need you for?


8 posted on 09/30/2009 3:00:43 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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To: reaganaut1

Maybe we need to do some investigation into MS. Jackson’s backgound?


9 posted on 09/30/2009 3:01:44 PM PDT by elephant
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To: reaganaut1; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


10 posted on 09/30/2009 3:03:59 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: reaganaut1

Yet each year Florida’s big sugar will BURN their entire fields to yield an easier harvest polluting Florida’s air land and sea.
Course big money interests, the Fanjul family who donates to BOTH parties will be ignored by E.P.A.?
HORSE CRA


11 posted on 09/30/2009 3:08:44 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (google; operation garden spot and REX84 (FUBO))
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To: reaganaut1
Trying to control the climate of the earth with CO2 levels is like trying to control the speed of your car by moving the needle on the speedometer.
12 posted on 09/30/2009 3:10:05 PM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: reaganaut1
Actually this is already law. Furthermore, the Supreme Court ruled last year in a 5-4 decision(Mass v. EPA) that EPA should treat CO2 as a pollutant. Thus, they have the ability regulate without any further legislation.

Cap n' Trade would help offset these regulations which, if law holds up, will be brought down to 250 TONS at each facility. It's called the Prevention of Significant Deterioration(PSD) permits. It's a nasty nasty little piece of regulation.

13 posted on 09/30/2009 3:10:42 PM PDT by Solson (magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.)
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To: reaganaut1

This is open warfare on the free enterprise system, as far as I am concerned.

The left really needs to get some push-back on green issues.


14 posted on 09/30/2009 3:22:31 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Ded Kennedy, Stealing from the middle class for nearly 40 years to end poverty.)
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To: reaganaut1

The EPA is incapable of anything and should have been disbanded before it was even created.

It is one of the most corrupt agencies in the federal government and has been since its inception.


15 posted on 09/30/2009 3:24:13 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort)
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To: reaganaut1
I don't think I have ever been so spitting angry at our federal government.

Article 1 Section 1 of our once Constitution granted legislative power to Congress, not to pencil-neck enviro nut jobs. It certainly did not grant them taxing power either.

It is time for pitchforks.

16 posted on 09/30/2009 3:28:23 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Cass Sunstein is to the Constitution as Lucifer is to the Ten Commandments.)
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To: reaganaut1

These 14,000 factories will either shut down and move overseas or they will split into smaller factories under the 25,000 ton limit.


17 posted on 09/30/2009 3:36:18 PM PDT by mombi
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To: Solson
Actually this is already law. Furthermore, the Supreme Court ruled last year in a 5-4 decision(Mass v. EPA) that EPA should treat CO2 as a pollutant.

We're all polluters now...

18 posted on 09/30/2009 3:36:35 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: reaganaut1
The only solution to impact the climate....


19 posted on 09/30/2009 3:36:49 PM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Solson

Did the Supreme Court make a determination that they “should” treat CO2 as a pollutant or that they “could” treat CO2 as a pollutant. My belief is that the Supreme Court ruled that the determination was left up to the E.P.A. as to the definition of “pollutant”. If this had not been the case, then a court would have had to hold hearings where experts would have testified. I do not believe this happened.


20 posted on 09/30/2009 3:45:53 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Gabz

The EPA is old school ACORN.


21 posted on 09/30/2009 3:46:32 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: reaganaut1

This will be IN ADDITION TO whatever congress passes.


22 posted on 09/30/2009 3:48:46 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: reaganaut1
The fine points will be decided by that separation-of-powers oxymoron: an "Administrative Law Judge."
23 posted on 09/30/2009 3:49:06 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: reaganaut1

Who needs legislation when there’s no new plants? I wonder what the effects of this recession have had on greenhouse gas emissions? Probably good news for the EPA. Perhaps economic activity should keep decreasing...


24 posted on 09/30/2009 3:49:14 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: newfreep
LOL!

The EPA can put out a rule regulating ultraviolet light emissions!

25 posted on 09/30/2009 3:50:08 PM PDT by batter (Wolverines!)
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To: scottdeus12

Bicycles require steel and rubber. Manufacturing steel and rubber emits greenhouse gases.

Walking emits greenhouse gases.

Breathing emits greenhouse gas.


26 posted on 09/30/2009 3:51:22 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: reaganaut1
Murkowski to move against EPA:

The amendment would stop the EPA from issuing new regulations capping greenhouse gases emissions from utilities and factories for one year. Murkowski plans to ask for her amendment to be brought up before the cloture vote on the Interior and Environmental Appropriations bill, according to aides.

“We don't think the amendment is a good idea,” White House climate advisor Carol Browner said on Tuesday. “It could get you a situation where activities that should go forward — like investments in carbon capture and storage — wouldn't be able to go forward.” Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27509.html#ixzz0SdKY3pgs Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27509.html#ixzz0SdKPRBXG

27 posted on 09/30/2009 3:55:40 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: reaganaut1
We should bring suit against use of the Clean Air Act. The naturally occurring CO2, essential to all life, is NOT a pollutant. A court should settle this.
28 posted on 09/30/2009 3:57:35 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: scottdeus12
These people won’t be happy until we’re all riding bicycles.

There will be no bicycle manufacturers left after these rules go into effect.

29 posted on 09/30/2009 3:58:07 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: newfreep

"EEEEPA!!!! EEEEEEPA!!!!"

30 posted on 09/30/2009 4:00:37 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: reaganaut1

Hard to decide who is dumber, EPA people or politicians. Toss-up maybe.


31 posted on 09/30/2009 4:04:37 PM PDT by mulligan
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To: reaganaut1

Adding costs to the biggest companies won’t affect me at all? The extra costs will simply be paid with golden pixie dust supplied by little fairies?


32 posted on 09/30/2009 4:05:28 PM PDT by Raycpa
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The Environmental Protection Agency announced a proposed rule Wednesday to begin regulating greenhouse gas emissions from thousands of power plants and large industrial facilities.

Oh goody!

I want to be the one picked to install the valve on the sun.

Anyone can handle taking care of the rest of the power plants.

33 posted on 09/30/2009 4:08:05 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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It is time for pitchforks.

Not yet. First I want to see an analysis of what this cost and ram it down this administration's throats. I want the full information made available for all to see what this will cost each citizen. Then ... armed with sufficient information .. many American people will demand an end to this one way or the other ... then the pitchforks.

34 posted on 09/30/2009 4:10:50 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Raycpa
The extra costs will simply be paid with golden pixie dust supplied by little fairies?

You must have taken a wrong turn at Albuquerque and wound up in Utopia. ; )

35 posted on 09/30/2009 4:11:40 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: reaganaut1

I’m cold. I want global warming.

MORE GREENHOUSE EMISSIONS! KEEP THE PLANET WARM!


36 posted on 09/30/2009 4:12:49 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: reaganaut1

Regulations are the secret to everything. That’s how Bambi and his minions will achieve most of their goals.


37 posted on 09/30/2009 4:13:38 PM PDT by livius
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To: steelyourfaith

With all the curtailing that has been done over the years, shouldn’t be any left........oh wait, they want more tax dollars, could that be it?


38 posted on 09/30/2009 4:16:27 PM PDT by Freddd
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Regulations are the secret to everything. That’s how Bambi and his minions will achieve most of their goals.

Unless we overthrow the regulators and end the bureaucracies, we will lose.

39 posted on 09/30/2009 4:18:26 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Angry about where our country is going with the current regime at the helm.)
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To: Solson

“Furthermore, the Supreme Court ruled last year in a 5-4 decision(Mass v. EPA) that EPA should treat CO2 as a pollutant.”

Wait’ll the libs realize that this will include diet coke.
That pfffft you hear upon opening, yep, CO2. Fountain drinks? Yep, CO2.


40 posted on 09/30/2009 4:19:35 PM PDT by rickb308
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To: reaganaut1

And how much does Al Gore make on this decision?


41 posted on 09/30/2009 4:23:55 PM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: reaganaut1
Note to upcoming pubbi majority. Move to clip the wings of the EPA...significantly.
42 posted on 09/30/2009 4:24:45 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: reaganaut1

Definition of a ‘Green Job’: Any taxpayer funded government job that reduces/restricts the productivity/profitability of any capitalist private energy producing job.


43 posted on 09/30/2009 4:29:17 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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Why do you think they are all made in %&#$^ing China.

We can't plate or paint anything because of EPA regs, talk to an auto engineer familiar with it, it will make your head spin like you are in the movie the Exorcist....

44 posted on 09/30/2009 4:29:26 PM PDT by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: reaganaut1
from the article: "the first government move toward controlling the emissions blamed for the warming of the planet from stationary sources."

fixed: "the first government move toward controlling the emissions blamed for the warming of the planet from illusory sources."

45 posted on 09/30/2009 4:31:24 PM PDT by glock rocks (health care, gun safety and climate change are strawmen. It's all about CONTROL.)
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The proposed rule would require polluters to install the best available technology to capture greenhouse gases whenever a new plant is opened or significantly changed.
IOW, no more new plants in the United States, and no improvements or upgrades to plants in the United States. And neither Obama nor Congress will close the border, either.
46 posted on 09/30/2009 4:37:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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The proposal, long anticipated and highly controversial, marks the first government move toward controlling the emissions blamed for the warming of the planet from stationary sources.

It's highly ironic that this bureaucratic nightmare was released just as this report of high fraud among the warmers came out: Treemometers: A new scientific scandal.

47 posted on 09/30/2009 4:43:16 PM PDT by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: reaganaut1

And how will this effect the boy child and his wife as they fly all over the World at our exspense?


48 posted on 09/30/2009 4:46:25 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: reaganaut1
Someone should call these a-holes and explain that the economy is collapsing.

But, that's what they want.

49 posted on 09/30/2009 4:47:18 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: reaganaut1
The EPA crew is really scarey. A bunch of them came into the pasture acriss the street the other day and were busy chasing cow farts around with tin cans in order to take samples. It was insane.

I mean listening to them yelling, " I smell one over here!" ,and running in a stange way that made me think they had corks up their a$$es in order to avoid contaminating their "samples."

They are crazy. I told them they should tie deer antlers onto their heads, it would make it easier to sneak up on the cows and get closer ( its hiunting season up here.)

( sarc.off )

They have gione absolutely bonkers, chicken little syndromoe now wastes billions of dollars and here we are , in for our coldest winter in a generation, this year.

50 posted on 09/30/2009 5:00:22 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weap<p>ons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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