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GM To Shut Down Saturn After Penske Ends Talks
APReport ^ | September 30, 2009

Posted on 09/30/2009 3:43:15 PM PDT by Steelfish

GM To Shut Down Saturn After Penske Ends Talks

Production agreement with another manufacturer falls through, killing deal

GM to drop Saturn after Penske ends talks

Sept. 30: General Motors Co. says it plans to shut down its Saturn brand and dealer network after talks with Penake Automotive Group fell apart.

DETROIT - General Motors Co. said Wednesday it would shut down its Saturn division after an agreement to sell it to Penske Automotive Group Inc. fell apart.

The Bloomfield, Michigan dealership headed by auto racing magnate Roger Penske walked away after it was unable to find a manufacturer to supply vehicles to it after a contract with GM runs out in 2011.

A tentative deal for Saturn was announced on June 5. Penske was to get Saturn's 371 dealers and promised to retain the 13,000 Saturn employees. The proposed price was never disclosed.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: automakers; generalmotors; penske; saturn; theend

1 posted on 09/30/2009 3:43:16 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

No matter. Would not have bought one anyway. Nor any other Government auto, either...


2 posted on 09/30/2009 3:44:02 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Steelfish

Excellent news for the unions, full pay and bene’s and not having to go to work.


3 posted on 09/30/2009 3:45:59 PM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: Steelfish

Aw, nuts. I love my 1996 SL1. I put almost 200,000 miles on it.

RIP Saturn...


4 posted on 09/30/2009 3:46:40 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: Steelfish

I’m sure Obama will find a way to benefit the Unions, while screwing senior shareholders.


5 posted on 09/30/2009 3:46:48 PM PDT by mallardx
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To: Steelfish

Does this mean the mild mannered, smooth voiced guy on the Saturn commercials will finally blow his stack?


6 posted on 09/30/2009 3:46:53 PM PDT by Rebelbase (This is the time of year when ACORNS fall.)
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To: Steelfish
GM To Shut Down Saturn After Penske Ends Talks

"If you can understand this....thank the Unions!" /parody

7 posted on 09/30/2009 3:50:39 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Steelfish
sweet!

union thugs lose their jobs, that made my day !

:)

8 posted on 09/30/2009 3:51:03 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: Steelfish

"Oh crap!"
9 posted on 09/30/2009 3:51:15 PM PDT by Rebelbase (This is the time of year when ACORNS fall.)
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To: Steelfish

So THIS is what was in the Penske file all these years!


10 posted on 09/30/2009 3:51:19 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Steelfish

Spring Hill and Thompsons Station TN will be purty sad.


11 posted on 09/30/2009 3:52:02 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: mallardx

Shareholders and bondholders have already been screwed.


12 posted on 09/30/2009 3:52:38 PM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: samtheman
So THIS is what was in the Penske file all these years!

LOL. My thoughts too.

I guess that unlike George Costanza, Saturn was not Penske material.

13 posted on 09/30/2009 3:59:50 PM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (You can never have too much cowbell !!)
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To: Steelfish

That’s a shame. I was hoping Penske would make something out of Saturn.


14 posted on 09/30/2009 4:01:42 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

And now Saturn will share the fate of Pluto.


15 posted on 09/30/2009 4:03:33 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: GreenLanternCorps

My son has a 1998 Saturn, runs perfectly and has never given him a problem. It was a good brand, a shame they ruined it.


16 posted on 09/30/2009 4:04:57 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Steelfish

Saturn was the best thing to come out of GM.


17 posted on 09/30/2009 4:05:06 PM PDT by Paradox (ObamaCare = Logan's Run ; There is no Sanctuary!)
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To: Steelfish

I’m very surprised.

FWIW Penske never planned to continue manufacturing the GM Saturn vehicles past their life cycle. It was strictly a marketing arrangement to sell GM supplied cars until other arrangements were in place.

I fully expected the Chinese would happily team with Penske figuring his credibility and marketing expertise would give them a top notch entry into the US market.


18 posted on 09/30/2009 4:08:41 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Steelfish

The stupid unions still don’t get it.

The phony squatter soiling the Whitehouse repaid his soul selling dept to them, they are of no use to him now so he could care less about them.

Their bloated union contracts are one reason that auto plants are closing since there are no concessions, not even thoughts of concessions to save the union workers their jobs.

They were played for fools and fell for “THE ONE”S” total BS lies.

Feel sorry for the workers, but not the union bosses who willl lose NOTHING.


19 posted on 09/30/2009 4:11:45 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: GreenLanternCorps

I’ve got a 97 SC1 that just celebrated its 13th birthday.
Runs like new - 140,000 miles.

Got wrecked by an 18 wheeler on I70 in Ohio this spring.
Bought a donor car for 150 bucks and put the body panels on my chassis (easy to do).

400 dollar paint job and it looks like a new car.


20 posted on 09/30/2009 4:12:47 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Gaffer

In the words of Government Motors, “May the best car win.”


21 posted on 09/30/2009 4:16:23 PM PDT by GOPyouth (Obama doesn't support it, except when he does.)
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To: Steelfish

I thought that the Saturn plants were not unionized. Am I wrong?


22 posted on 09/30/2009 4:25:42 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We are an Oligarchy)
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To: Steelfish
So GM couldn't extend their manufacturing agreement past 2011 to make the deal work? UAW pro'ly said "no." Think about it. Tens of thousands of unemployed auto workers, plants all over the place in mothballs and NO ONE could put forth a business plan and say "I'll build ’em?"
23 posted on 09/30/2009 4:26:35 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The President has borrowed more money to spend to less effect than anybody on the planet. " Steyn)
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To: wardaddy

Yeah, but we’re a “red state” so screwing us is especially fun for ObaMao. How much “worser and worser” do things have to get?


24 posted on 09/30/2009 4:26:48 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: A Strict Constructionist
They're all UAW plants, although they got "some" concessions from the at the Spring Hill plant.

I once worked for a Saturn dealer for awhile and went to a training class at Spring Hill that lasted a week. (That's where I found out that salespeople like to party, party, party...) Had a great time; the training was led by a guy named Jim from a St. Louis dealership who also was a Vietnam vet and had played football at the University of Missouri. Heck of a nice guy.

Part of the training included a visit from the UAW local Kahuna. I can't recall his exact words, but when I axed about the UAW's support of political candidates, he pretty much came out and said "We support Democrats, tough dookey if you don't like it." Or words to that effect.

25 posted on 09/30/2009 4:45:49 PM PDT by OKSooner ("He's quite mad, you know." - Sean Connery to Honor Blackman in "Goldfinger".)
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To: wardaddy
Spring Hill and Thompsons Station TN will be purty sad.

They stopped building Saturns down their awhile ago, been building the Chevy ?Traverse at that plant which is moving production to Michigan next year. I think the Saturns are made in Maryland or somewhere out East.

26 posted on 09/30/2009 4:45:58 PM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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To: A Strict Constructionist

Originally saturn was non-union.


27 posted on 09/30/2009 4:47:51 PM PDT by rsobin
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
Penske stock up 1.32 today!

US HOT STOCKS: Penske Automotive Active In Late Trading

28 posted on 09/30/2009 4:49:46 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: A Strict Constructionist
It's a shame to see 'em go, btw. Saturn was trying to do some things right where GM management and the UAW were doing so much wrong.

(Notwithstanding the first model year of the VUE SUV with the continuously variable tranny, which was an epic fail resulting in the next year's model suddenly having a Honda drivetrain.)

What can you say about a corporation that would let one of the coolest car brands ever, Oldsmobile, go down the tubes?

Rigid, uncreative corporate inertia and infighting have as much to do with the demise of GM as anything else.

29 posted on 09/30/2009 5:03:18 PM PDT by OKSooner ("He's quite mad, you know." - Sean Connery to Honor Blackman in "Goldfinger".)
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To: samtheman
LOL! I guess Saturn wasn't Penske material.
30 posted on 09/30/2009 5:14:02 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: samtheman

Tuttle may now make a bid. Ta, ta.


31 posted on 09/30/2009 5:30:30 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Steelfish

Big deal. Aura=Malibu, Vue=Equinox, Outlook=Traverse. Saturn was dead weight.


32 posted on 09/30/2009 5:35:59 PM PDT by naturalized
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To: A.A. Cunningham

I thought Tuttle died in a helicopter accident on a medical run in Korea. At least that’s what Trapper and Hawkeye told the general.


33 posted on 09/30/2009 5:45:00 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The President has borrowed more money to spend to less effect than anybody on the planet. " Steyn)
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To: ReformedBeckite

If that is the case then why has Bredesen been negotiating about what to do with the plant if Saturn is discontinued?


34 posted on 09/30/2009 9:43:41 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy
Well the way I understand it is that Penske was in talks to buy the plant and maybe the Saturn name(but I doubt that). Either way it's a big con game, it's just a big media hype, Government motors does not want any more cars built in Tennessee then they have to build. It's not about cost it's about keeping the UAW happy which does not want cars built in a Right to work states. Basically the Socialists/Government Motors are stealing/moving jobs from Conserative Tennessee to the Socialistic Michigan.

My other opinion on the subject is that Penske was taking a big gamble in thinking about buying the plant. I think Govenment Motors was trying to pull a fast one on him or he was just playing along. My gut feeling is that Penske wants the plant but not the UAW, while Govenment motors wants to sell the plant and the UAW, and maybe the Saturn name. As far as Bredesen goes he's probably just playing along, as not to upset Govenment motors.

35 posted on 10/01/2009 3:40:39 AM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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To: Steelfish
What is the difference between Saturn which sold quality cars and Buick which did not?

There are two obvious differences. The first difference is Obama Motors decided to keep the crappy Buick and jettison the well built Saturn. The other obvious difference is that Saturn workers either never had UAW locals or voted them out.

36 posted on 10/01/2009 5:56:18 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Steelfish

I have a used Saturn that was made before the government got into the business — 1999. I am really sad to see this. Wish Ford would pick them up.

PS. I love the Saturn; good gas mileage, good handling, good everything. Insurance is less. Maintenance is less.

What to do?


37 posted on 10/05/2009 9:25:37 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Oh dear- sorry to hear about this. If it’s a super car keep it until it falls apart. I wouldn’t sell it since it’s value would have depreciated quite a lot since the announcement.


38 posted on 10/05/2009 9:29:10 AM PDT by Steelfish
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