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Is The Liberal Moment Over ? (Democrats have badly misread their mandate)
Power Line ^ | October 01, 2009 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 10/01/2009 7:16:19 PM PDT by RobinMasters

That's the question Byron York asks, based on Gallup poll results indicating that most Americans are back to wanting the government to promote "traditional values" rather than "not favoring any particular set of values." That preference has generally existed over the last 20 years, but the balance swung away from "traditional values"--which means whatever the poll respondent has in mind--beginning in 2005.

Byron argues that this is more evidence that the Democrats have badly misread their mandate:

[T]hat period of revulsion at Bush and Republicans from 2005 to 2008 left a legacy: a Democrat in the White House and large Democratic majorities in the House and Senate, at least until 2010. That is why you see Democrats racing to enact their agenda, even as they see the political conditions around them changing. They have the majorities, based on the public's very temporary mood of 2005-2008, and they are determined to put their preferred policies in place no matter what the public thinks now.

The Gallup numbers also suggest that Barack Obama and the Democratic leadership in the House and Senate have fundamentally misread their own victories. Did voters elect Democrats because they desperately wanted national health care? Sprawling and expensive environmental regulation? Federal deficits triple the size of just a few years ago? No. The voters elected Democrats because they were sick of Bush and Republicans. Now Bush and the GOP are gone and out of power. Democrats are doing what they thought the voters wanted. And it turns out the voters didn't want that at all.

(Excerpt) Read more at powerlineblog.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; mandate; overplayedhand

1 posted on 10/01/2009 7:16:19 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: ExTexasRedhead; justiceseeker93; traderrob6; OL Hickory; socialismisinsidious; trlambsr; Altera; ...

Ping.


2 posted on 10/01/2009 7:16:36 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

No! it’s true. Liberals are giving up. /good Lord


3 posted on 10/01/2009 7:18:45 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: RobinMasters

The liberal “moment” is in its death throes and the “tsunami” of conservative backlash is rapidly building up momentum.


4 posted on 10/01/2009 7:19:06 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: RobinMasters

Always the hazard when your campaign depends so completely on “I’m not the other guy.” Sooner or later the public finds out what guy you are. “Change” isn’t always for the better.


5 posted on 10/01/2009 7:19:12 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: devolve

[most Americans are back to wanting the government to promote “traditional values” rather than “not favoring any particular set of values.”]

TRADITION involves values!


6 posted on 10/01/2009 7:20:03 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: RobinMasters

btt


7 posted on 10/01/2009 7:21:15 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: potlatch

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You tell ‘em potlatch!


8 posted on 10/01/2009 7:22:49 PM PDT by devolve ( . . . . . . . . . . never whack them with a 2x4 if 4x4 is handy . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: RobinMasters

Just remember: Democrat candidates spend their time trying to convince people that they are not liberals. Republican candidates spend their time trying to convince people that they are conservative. That says it all.


9 posted on 10/01/2009 7:23:46 PM PDT by RAO1125 (Revolution's are for Marxists. We need a Constitutional Restoration)
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To: RobinMasters
Democrats are doing what they thought the voters wanted.

No, not true.

It's plainly obvious what the majority of voters want or don't want now. The Democrats are just doing what they wanted to do all along - and they plan on ramming it all down the voter's throats!

10 posted on 10/01/2009 7:24:08 PM PDT by Gritty (When it comes to the global scene, President Obama has attitudes rather than policies-Mark Steyn)
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To: RobinMasters

Not according to Dick Grayson. America is sick of lying republicans who want people to die.


11 posted on 10/01/2009 7:24:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Gritty

What they haven’t counted on is getting it shoved straight back up their a$$.


12 posted on 10/01/2009 7:25:38 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: devolve

[You tell ‘em potlatch!]

Hey, Halloween is coming.......do you want candy or a trick?

And you DO know what I mean by trick, lol.


13 posted on 10/01/2009 7:26:31 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: RobinMasters

Oh how wonderful it would be if thier moment was over. If so, it time to repair the damage.


14 posted on 10/01/2009 7:30:24 PM PDT by Bellflower (If you are left DO NOT take the mark of the beast and be damned forever.)
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To: potlatch

>Hey, Halloween is coming.......do you want candy or a trick?

This year I’ll be giving out .22 ammo instead of candy.

>And you DO know what I mean by trick, lol.

lol - Perhaps.


15 posted on 10/01/2009 7:30:26 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: potlatch

Hope your right, Hope the next generation of so called leaders see it that way. But I do not believe it will be that way. The political class exist to be re elected. Term limits are required, Removing incentives to stay until death are required, removing incentives and that health care package are required.


16 posted on 10/01/2009 7:30:49 PM PDT by reefdiver (So how's that HOPE & CHANGE working out for ya ?)
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To: RobinMasters

A lot of their voters fell for the Centrist/Moderate shtick because the MSM was in the tank lock, stock and barrel. Those voters are not happy.


17 posted on 10/01/2009 7:34:21 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: cripplecreek

Grayson thinks if he speak out like the senator who told obama “you lie”, he will also get tons of campaign money.
Problem for him is, we are mad as hell the the liberals sheep are scared as hell.


18 posted on 10/01/2009 7:37:11 PM PDT by Linda Frances
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To: OneWingedShark

Lol, the little kiddies ain’t gonna like that.......!


19 posted on 10/01/2009 7:38:23 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: potlatch

>Lol, the little kiddies ain’t gonna like that.......!

But that ammo will become hard currency when the SHTF and the Revolution goes hot.


20 posted on 10/01/2009 7:39:47 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: reefdiver; devolve

[Term limits are required]

I think we all agree on that. Making it happen is another thing.

Someone wrote; I believe in two terms per person, one in office and one in prison......


21 posted on 10/01/2009 7:40:37 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: RobinMasters
"Is The Liberal Moment Over ?"

Sure is! It has now slid completely and openly under the umbrella of Marxism.

That reduces the number of "labels" we have to bandy about and target for extinction by one.

22 posted on 10/01/2009 7:41:15 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: OneWingedShark; devolve

Well.........maybe the dads will be happy when they go through the goodies bags.


23 posted on 10/01/2009 7:44:36 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: RobinMasters
Correct, all of it. The election was about anybody but Bush, people sick of the war and the caterwauling it brought from the left, and about the financial crisis and the previous administration's seeming inability to do anything about it.

Obama read all of that in the campaign and ran as a safe centrist, to the extent of muting his conviction pacifism to support the Afghan war as cover for opposing the Iraq war. In office, the Dems have instead rolled out a radical expansion of government no one wanted, and one that is economic malpractice in its timing, even to Keynesians on the left.

This is a great way to please their base for about five seconds and then blow up. Which is approximately what is happening.

They can hope for the natural turn of the economic cycle to give them a second political life. But it will probably be too little and too late to save fallout in the congressional elections next fall.

24 posted on 10/01/2009 7:46:39 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: RobinMasters
Had a young “30’s” couple here at the lodge this weekend. Self employed and conservative minded. Both believed Obama meant what he said about bringing change to Washington and solving problems using both sides of the isle.

They hate him for fooling them and know now they were duped by a big government, big business con man. “Their words”.

25 posted on 10/01/2009 7:47:06 PM PDT by liberty or death
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To: RobinMasters

“[T]hat period of revulsion at Bush and Republicans from 2005 to 2008 left a legacy...”

“The voters elected Democrats because they were sick of Bush and Republicans.”

1. So, he’s saying it’s Bush’s fault—still.

2. I wonder how much of the “revulsion” and “sick” he writes about was real and sprung from the hearts of the general population, and how much was created or incited by the media.


26 posted on 10/01/2009 7:48:28 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: potlatch

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Hoo moi?


27 posted on 10/01/2009 7:51:29 PM PDT by devolve ( . . . . . . . . . . never whack them with a 2x4 if 4x4 is handy . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: devolve

Yes, ewe!


28 posted on 10/01/2009 7:53:39 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: RobinMasters

Judging by the things I hear people say around me, people are so fed up with what the Dems are doing that they really should start worrying about their safey! If normal everday people are this upset what about those who would act on their feelings?


29 posted on 10/01/2009 7:57:34 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: RAO1125
" Just remember: Democrat candidates spend their time trying to convince people that they are not liberals. "

Ain't that the truth.... not a real good vote of confidence.
30 posted on 10/01/2009 7:59:33 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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[T]hat period of revulsion at Bush and Republicans from 2005 to 2008 was largely the result of the media treatment of President Bush and the Republicans by the media. I hate to sound egotistical so I will just point out that Freepers are too smart to buy into their propaganda. Imagine what zero's already dismal and rapidly dropping approval ratings would be if the media even reported fairly, much less attacked him on a daily basis.
31 posted on 10/01/2009 8:12:24 PM PDT by KarinG1 (Who am I, and what have I done with myself?)
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To: KarinG1

I have a new tagline. I wish we could edit our posts here.


32 posted on 10/01/2009 8:17:17 PM PDT by KarinG1 (Please excuse any grammatical errors, as I was slobbering mad when I posted this.)
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To: RobinMasters

the only reason the “fools” turned against W was because of the 24/7 drumbeat of the media.....

That is the same bunch of assholes who have given us a scumbag who could never have been elected if they had done their job.....

I blame the media and I show my disapporval by never turning on NBCCBSABCCNNPMSNBC................ever


33 posted on 10/01/2009 9:15:55 PM PDT by The Wizard (Democrat Party: a criminal enterprise)
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To: liberty or death
They hate him for fooling them and know now they were duped by a big government, big business con man. “Their words”.

I'm glad they learned their lesson. Here's hoping that in future elections, they'll pay as much attention to what a candidate has done in the past, as what he or she says they want to do in the future.

34 posted on 10/02/2009 2:14:18 PM PDT by SuziQ
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