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In Kabul Meetings, Code Pink "Surprised" Afghans Want U.S. Troops to Stay, Fear Taliban Takeover
Friday, October 2, 2009 | Kristinn

Posted on 10/02/2009 6:19:16 PM PDT by kristinn

Code Pink is on a mission in Afghanistan this week to undermine support for the war on terror and to bring pressure to bear for a precipitous U.S. withdrawal from the former home of al Qaeda and the Taliban regardless of the consequences.

There's just one problem, Code Pink is finding it impossible to gin up the propaganda needed to make their case.

On this thread posted a few days ago, I noted how the photos Code Pink posted of Afghan women and girls proved the wisdom of President Bush's decision to liberate Afghanistan after 9/11. They were free to work, study and dress in traditional Afghan clothing rather than the burka and chador of the radical Muslims.

Yesterday, Code Pink co-founder Medea Benjamin posted a report from Kabul about her day meeting with top Afghan government officials and warlords. I'm going to post the whole piece here so you can get the whole picture of what Medea is going through over there. Rather than her experience with Iraq where there was a sizable remnant of Saddamites who could relate to the San Francisco based Benjamin, she reports finding practically no one who agrees with her on an immediate U.S. withdrawal:

(Kabul) It’s hard to believe the access and diversity of meetings that our 9-person delegation has had in the past few days! Little wonder our heads are spinning. We met with heads of women’s organizations and women who are learning new skills from literacy to business classes. We were briefed by UN reps and international NGOs. We met with local groups researching conflict zones and participation in elections. We visited internal refugees living in makeshift tents, doctors in a maternity hospital, recovering drug addicts at their rehab center, artisans in their studios and businessmen in their sumptuous homes. We’ve interviewed journalists and been interview by journalists.

If that weren’t enough, we’ve had unbelievable access to high level officials. We’ve met the Minister of Communications, the Minister of Agriculture, the Minister of Urban Development, the Deputy Minister of Transportation, the Deputy Minister of Defense, the Deputy Minister of Finance and the former Minister of Mines. We met an elderly man who held high government posts under the King, the communist government, the Mujahadeen and the Taliban! We were invited to the Presidential Palace to talk to President Karzai’s most trusted advisor.

At a party for us hosted by a local businessman, we met three warlords (including one who fought Osama bin Laden at ToraBora), one tribal leader who was a peacemaker between groups in Pakistan and Afghanistan, and the businessman brother of President Karzai who financed his brother’s presidential campaign (and owns the only cement factory in the whole country).

Our meetings have covered all kinds of topics, from military strategy to women’s rights to opium policy. We’ve learned about the need to not only train Afghan soldiers and police, but pay them a living wage (their $200 salaries can’t cover the basics for a family). We discussed the pros and cons of U.S. troops, and to our surprise, found very few people who would like the troops out now. Most say that the country would collapse into civil war or be taken over by the Taliban if the US troops were to leave. But that doesn’t mean they want MORE troops. In fact, most want to see a phased out withdrawal of foreign troops, accompanied by a reconciliation process. We’ve had endless talks about what that process should look like, and who should be at the table (including women so their rights don’t get further compromised!!!).

In our few remaining days, we have another series of incredible meetings set up. I am so grateful to have this opportunity to learn firsthand what is happening in a country where U.S. soldiers are fighting and dying, where billions of our taxdollars are being spent, and where Afghans remain impoverished, fearful and victims of horrendous violence. So keep in touch with us as we sift through the massive amount of information and formulate follow-up ideas to promote an end to the violence that has so devastated this nation.

Well fancy that! The Afghans don't want us to run away and leave them to the tyranny of the Taliban. I must say, I had my doubts about this trip, but so far Code Pink is making the case for those of us who support victory in Afghanistan.


Ann Wright, Medea Benjamin, Jodie Evans: At Karzai's palace, it was the King's Palace, built in the mid 1800's. Met with the Deputy NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR, who we learned later was Karzai's brother in law. (Code Pink photo and caption)

Jodie Evans has also written several reports.

This one ends with a paragraph about partying late in to the night at an expat bar in Kabul:

The day finished at a meeting with the Deputy Minister of Defense who we grilled about training the troops and what was really possible. He says they need more police than troops, which is the opposite of what McChrystal proposes and he is for going back to mandatory service which made Medea happy. We learned about the ex-pat bars and ended our night at a French one which was quite the scene. Hundreds of Westerners drinking and flirting, roughly twenty men to each women so we were mobbed. We met men from every country doing about everything in Kabul—including delivering the mail. We passed armed guards, went through three security doors and were searched in order to reach the party area. And what a party it was—only just beginning at 11pm.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; codepink; jodieevans; medeabenjamin

1 posted on 10/02/2009 6:19:16 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

Medea Benjamin should be required to wear a burka at all times.....


2 posted on 10/02/2009 6:24:25 PM PDT by GQuagmire
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To: trooprally; BufordP; armymarinemom; Doctor Raoul; Just A Nobody; nutmeg

FYI


3 posted on 10/02/2009 6:33:14 PM PDT by kristinn (A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.)
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To: kristinn

They should be careful. They may end up being human shields or worse.


4 posted on 10/02/2009 6:35:08 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: kristinn
Surprising rural Afghans are a lot smarter than democrats!
5 posted on 10/02/2009 6:35:46 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: kristinn
Hundreds of Westerners drinking and flirting, roughly twenty men to each women so we were mobbed.

Is it possible to drink enough booze to make a Code Pinko look good without risking alcohol poisoning?
6 posted on 10/02/2009 6:36:25 PM PDT by LostInBayport (The magnetic strip on the back of the Race Card is worn out from overuse.)
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To: kristinn
Maybe Medea's gonna have an epiphany. snicker
7 posted on 10/02/2009 6:36:36 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: kristinn
To hell with what the Afghans say! Troops out now!
8 posted on 10/02/2009 6:40:01 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: kristinn

BTTT


9 posted on 10/02/2009 6:42:40 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: Lorianne
no way.

The troops want to be in Afghanistan.

The Afghani's want the troops in Afghanistan.

The Islamists want to die for Allah.

We want to kill them.

10 posted on 10/02/2009 6:43:37 PM PDT by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: LostInBayport
Is it possible to drink enough booze to make a Code Pinko look good without risking alcohol poisoning?

No, it's not.


11 posted on 10/02/2009 6:44:16 PM PDT by 50mm (AARP is a steaming pile)
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To: Lorianne

its a win win for all involved.


12 posted on 10/02/2009 6:44:20 PM PDT by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: kristinn

This is almost as funny as Obama’s Olympic crash. I bet they both are stunned that they world isn’t swooning over their brilliance.


13 posted on 10/02/2009 6:46:26 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: kristinn

Code Pink - Forever mystified by reality.


14 posted on 10/02/2009 6:46:39 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: kristinn
Code pink is surprised when the sun rises in the east.

5.56mm

15 posted on 10/02/2009 6:50:30 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: GQuagmire

You’re not kidding!


16 posted on 10/02/2009 6:51:47 PM PDT by sauropod (People who do things are people that get things done.)
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To: 50mm

Case closed...case closed...


17 posted on 10/02/2009 7:01:37 PM PDT by LostInBayport (The magnetic strip on the back of the Race Card is worn out from overuse.)
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To: NormsRevenge

“Maybe Medea’s gonna have an epiphany.”

Well, stranger things have happened!

Well, not much stranger, I’ll admit, but it is possible for anyone to drop an illusion or three and be humbled by reality.

I wish her well.


18 posted on 10/02/2009 7:04:07 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism - "Who-whom?")
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To: Covenantor

Why is anyone speaking to these slugs ? They should be banned from the country, or kept there. What part of congress do they represent ?


19 posted on 10/02/2009 7:08:51 PM PDT by gunner03
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To: gunner03

My fondest hope is that they return via a slow boat trolling the coast of Somalia as pirate bait, or chum. Either will do, but sharks have to feed to, you know.

;>)


20 posted on 10/02/2009 7:14:04 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: kristinn

This ties in well to this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2353492/posts


21 posted on 10/02/2009 7:14:30 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: armymarinemom; kristinn
It’s hard to believe the access and diversity of meetings that our 9-person delegation has had in the past few days! We were briefed by UN reps and international NGOs. We’ve interviewed journalists and been interview by journalists.

we’ve had unbelievable access to high level officials.

At a party for us hosted by a local businessman...brother of President Karzai

We’ve had endless talks about what that process should look like, and who should be at the table

Why are they permitted to have such unbelievable access high level officials and discussion about WHAT that process should look like, and why are they talking about WHO should be at the table ending in a great party thrown by the President's brother???

These skanks are NO ONE! They belong/started/are active in a number of subversive criminal enterprises and yet they act like, and are treated as though, they are on some official government diplomatic visit. WHY?

It's not the usurper's doing, as they have made other such trips in the past 8 years.

amm -- why don't you get a delegation together and go over there on a fact finding mission? At least YOU have some right to do so, unlike these treasonous commie blanks.
President Karzai himself ought to unroll the red carpet for you and your entourage.

22 posted on 10/02/2009 7:15:37 PM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: armymarinemom

One thing I found interesting is Jodie’s reports describe problems similar to ones we had in Iraq before the surge.


23 posted on 10/02/2009 7:16:55 PM PDT by kristinn (A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.)
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To: gunner03
What part of congress do they represent ?

THANK YOU BUMP!

24 posted on 10/02/2009 7:17:23 PM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: Just A Nobody

I agree, but it is common knowledge in certain circles that Jodie Evans has Obama’s ear. Also, Ann Wright was a high ranking diplomat in the U.S. embassy in Kabul after the 2001 liberation so she has connections there.


25 posted on 10/02/2009 7:29:03 PM PDT by kristinn (A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.)
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To: kristinn

I think they should set up a meeting with the Taliban leaders and find out what they think.


26 posted on 10/02/2009 7:35:26 PM PDT by TNdandelion (I'd rather have FedEx run my healthcare than USPS.)
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To: kristinn
Jodie Evanas and her "relationship" with him I am aware of.

However, the Ann Wright deal I knew nothing about. How did she obtain that position?

27 posted on 10/02/2009 7:43:54 PM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: Just A Nobody

She volunteered for it.


28 posted on 10/02/2009 7:51:53 PM PDT by kristinn (A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.)
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To: kristinn
Huh! One can simply volunteer for a high ranking diplomat in a foreign country?

I've been looking for a change of scenery. Perhaps the embassy in Iraq?

29 posted on 10/02/2009 7:57:18 PM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: Just A Nobody

She was career foreign service.


30 posted on 10/02/2009 8:00:15 PM PDT by kristinn (A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.)
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To: LostInBayport
Hundreds of Westerners drinking and flirting, roughly twenty men to each women so we were mobbed.

In a country where goats are regularly used for sex the Code Pinkos found someone to hit on them.

31 posted on 10/02/2009 9:03:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (Everybody knows it's a spotted dog...)
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To: kristinn

Dang.....I guess that let’s me out. ;*(


32 posted on 10/02/2009 9:12:57 PM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: TigersEye
In a country where goats are regularly used for sex the Code Pinkos found someone to hit on them.

Now that is just plain funny...I don't care who you are!

33 posted on 10/02/2009 9:13:45 PM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: kristinn
The headline I want to see.

Code Pink Activists Kidnapped by Taliban-McChrystal Receives Ransom Demand.

Empty your coffers Code Pink!

34 posted on 10/02/2009 9:19:07 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: Candor7
I want to see the headline a week after that...

"Taliban Accuses U.S. of Inhumane Tactics"

35 posted on 10/02/2009 9:30:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (Everybody knows it's a spotted dog...)
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To: kristinn

When you are shouting “bring troops back home”, you are supporting terrorism. Support our war, support our troops, not the terrorists.


36 posted on 10/02/2009 9:51:18 PM PDT by Wiz
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To: TigersEye
Well, somehow I think if those Code Pink mavins started their act with the Taliban, they'd stake one out on the ground, strip her and have 20 men do her like a bleating goat. And if she didn't see the light , they would stand her up, put her before Allah, and execute her. These Taliban guys are stone bad.Few people know how bad.

Which is why we are there. And if Code Pink knew really how bad the Taliban were, they would not even be in country.

37 posted on 10/02/2009 10:05:45 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: kristinn

Kristinn, I found FR after seeing your CSPAN testimony in 2004 while house-sitting for a friend. Thank you for this report. I am so grateful for our troops and that the women in Afghanistan have more freedom now; I’m praying for our military!


38 posted on 10/02/2009 10:17:37 PM PDT by MonicaG (Thank you to our military & veterans, with love & gratitude. XOXOXO)
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To: Candor7

Without a doubt.


39 posted on 10/02/2009 11:11:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (Everybody knows it's a spotted dog...)
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To: kristinn
Same folks same plan of action. A surge will help but only if we kill a lot of jihadist. Wouldn't it drive her nuts to equate war with jihadist to killing roaches in an apartment complex? I am surprised she admitted the observation.
40 posted on 10/03/2009 3:21:37 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: kristinn

An Afghan policeman conducting a joint operation with U.S. soldiers opened fire on the Americans, killing two of them before fleeing,

Most recently, an American service member and an Afghan police officer argued in Kabul because the American was drinking water in front of police during the Ramadan fast, prompting the police officer to shoot the American. Other American troops responded and seriously wounded the Afghan.

Pull out and create a nuclear free fire zone for Israeli Nuke ICBMs


41 posted on 10/03/2009 8:14:53 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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