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Posted on 10/03/2009 12:16:49 AM PDT by Steelfish
Rape Ordeal Of Heiress Abducted By Preacher And 'Tied Up With Cable And Attacked Four Times A Day'
02nd October 2009
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An heiress has told how she was raped three or four times a day for nine months after being abducted by a preacher.
Elizabeth Smart, 21, said she was kidnapped by Brian Mitchell at the age of 14 from her bedroom in the middle of the night.
He kept her tied up and threatened to kill her if she tried to escape back to her wealthy Mormon family.
Abducted: Elizabeth Smart, now 21, claims she was raped four times a day and tied with a cable by 'prophet' Brian David Mitchell, right [Pics in URL] The full horror of her ordeal emerged as she gave evidence for the first time in a case which has transfixed America.
Miss Smart, the student daughter of a millionaire estate agent, was in the witness box for nearly two hours but remained poised, her voice never wavering.
She did not have to see Mitchell as the 55-year- old had been removed from the courtroom in Salt Lake City, Utah, for disrupting proceedings by singing hymns.
The federal court is hearing the case to rule if Mitchell, who describes himself as a prophet, is mentally competent to stand trial.
The former street preacher has been behind bars since 2003, mostly in a mental hospital, but has twice been ruled unfit to stand trial.
When asked to describe him, Miss Smart said he was: 'Evil, wicked, manipulative, stinky, slimy, greedy, selfish, not spiritual, not religious, not close to God.'
Hearing: Ed Smart, Elizabeth's father, speaks outside court. Judges will decide whether Mitchell is fit to stand trial for kidnap and sexual assault
She told how within hours of being abducted...
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Yes, but was it “Rape-Rape”?
First time I’ve ever heard Elizabeth Smart referred to as an “heiress.”
He was a Mormon that went crazy, it happens.
The Catholic church does not accept them as Christian, so they aren’t.
I’m a Catholic and the Catholic Church certainly has those who have gone crazy as well.... as to whether the Mormons are considered “Christian” by Catholics - I don’t know... perhaps it only matters if they are considered “Christian” by Christ.
The Pope and the Catholic Church does not accept Mormons as Christian.
who cares about the authority in the world.
As Catholics, we are allowed to judge institutions such as the Mormon faith. We are forbidden, however, from judging the eternal destination of individuals. There are no doubt many Mormons who are saved by Christ and who will be in Heaven with Him. The Mormon faith itself, however, is a non-Christian religion.
This thread is based upon a news story about Elizabeth Smart and the rapist who kidnapped her, not a story on the Mormon religion.
What does that mean?
Then you have a lot in common with Mormons, because you are also not a Christian either.
I think that he was a Mormon Priest that went crazy.
It means do you depend upon men for your salvation or Christ.
In your head I am not a Christian yet you don’t know anything about me, you aren’t a good representative for what ever non-Christian faith you belong to.
You are a liar.
Oh, I thought it might have something to do with Catholicism, because all of the major Christian churches whether Protestant, Greek Orthodox or Catholic are all in agreement that Mormons are not Christians, so it isn't just the Pope and the Catholic Church.
Welcome back to the 14th century. Always love the Catholics because they can remind us that people need to be tortured to conversion...it's for their own good.
Go Inquisition!!!!! Wonderful institution interrupted by rationality.
To be fair a lot of those religons can’t agree on their sentiments towards each other either...
But regardless, I see that you have a bone to pick, by all means pick it...
I’m sure you’ll reap your rewards...
You missed post 14.
“all of the major Christian churches whether Protestant, Greek Orthodox or Catholic are all in agreement that Mormons are not Christians, so it isn’t just the Pope and the Catholic Church.”
It’s funny how this discussion has quickly devolved into a battle-royale of the various sects of Christianity and alleged Un-Christian faiths.
Catholics tend to be despised by a good number of protestants and vice-versa and many protestants and Catholics alike cast out Mormons like distant diseased relatives.
What do I believe? Well, What do you believe? It’s really not the subject. The subject is the kidnapping and perverted crimes committed by a piece of human filth against a person, whom regardless of faith, I regard as an innocent human being.
Let’s try to stick with that at least for this thread.
Christianity has common views on the Mormon religion, are we supposed to pretend that we don’t know that?
Well they accept each other as Baptised, nobody accepts the Mormon religion’s baptism.
Nope, I saw it. Thanks though but your original comment said it all. Catholics think that they are all that and more.
Glad that the Vatican doesn’t have power in the US so I am not branded (literally) with an NC mark on my forehead.
That is formally done by the church leadership itself, you make it sound like it is just some individual members.
I too found it odd they called her an “heiress.” On the other hand, I found it even odder that they called some homeless lunatic wandering the streets ranting about God a “preacher?”
In some technical sense both of these are right. As long as a woman’s parents are not destitute and they have not disowned her, I guess she is an “heiress.” Similarly I guess homeless people wandering the streets yelling at us are preaching and are thus “preachers” whether they are preaching about God, the end of the world, the aliens that abucted them etc.
Finally when I say lunatic I do not mean to say I know this guy is not legally able to understand right from wrong. I suspect he knew it was wrong to steal someone’s child otherwise why would he do it in the dark of night and force her to where a disguise?
The Protestants and the Greek Orthodox have come to the same conclusion so I don't know how you can pretend that it is only a Vatican thing.
You didn’t elaborate on your post which of those religons determines who is or isn’t worthy of going to heaven?
You can keep your religon, because I can see that it’s empty.
I’ll keep my God.
I know a great deal about you. as Jesus said, what comes out of the mouth tells you about the heart. In this case, what comes out of your keyboard tells me a great deal about your heart. You are a bitter, animosity-driven person who can’t pass up an opportunity to diss Mormons. That eliminates you from being considered a Christian. Much of what you write also classifies you as either ignorant or a lier. Let’s just be generous and call you misinformed.
I said that they all agree that Mormons are not Christian, it is something they agree on.
Only a Mormon could post such nonsense, you think the Pope is not Christian?
The Pope and the Catholic Church does not accept Mormons as Christian.
Now you want to expand it to other religions. That may be fine and factual but the issue you raised is with the Catholics.
Whether a particular Christian sect has the 'blessing' to be called Christian by some select elders is baseless and what Luther tacked onto a door to protest.
Before you ask and dig, I am a secular humanist. I am a former Assembly of God member so I have my basis.
I used the word “church”, I simply meant it as all of the major Christian denominations official positions, not just Catholic.
No, I just am not in the habit of breaking everything down and making all inclusive lists, I thought using the largest Christian Church would make the point.
Not only is the Pope a Christian, but some of our Catholic friends are some of the finest Christians we know.
Assemblies of God USA:
A law unto itself
In the final analysis, Mormonism is an original, invented religion, born of the mind of Joseph Smith, who is responsible for the spiritual seduction of millions of people. To the world, Mormonism sells itself as the friendly Christian church down the street, but in reality it is no closer to biblical Christianity than Hinduism or Islam.
The goals of Mormonism, however, remain unchanged. It desires to turn Protestants and Catholics, Evangelicals and Pentecostals, into Mormons. It seeks to introduce them to what the Bible calls another gospel, another spirit, and another Jesus (2 Corinthians 11:4).
Read my post: I am not a member of the Assembly of God. I am a secular humanist. Not even close.
I did not know that! Do you have a link?
"He's an out-and-out Christian," said Charley.
This was merely intended as a tribute to the animal's abilities, but it was an appropriate remark in another sense, if Master Bates had only known it; for there are a good many ladies and gentlemen, claiming to be out-and-out Christians, between whom, and Mr. Sikes' dog, there exist strong and singular points of resemblance. Dickens, Oliver Twist
A couple of these are broken and if you want me to I’ll dig up the new links but probably not tonight.
Here is Southern baptist http://www.4truth.net/site/c.hiKXLbPNLrF/b.3471385/k.6CD7/Are_Mormons_Christians.htm
Assemblies of God http://pentecostalevangel.ag.org/Articles2002/4579_spencer.cfm
Here is the Greek Othodox position on mormonism as Christian.
cults in America http://www.goarch.org/en/ourfaith/articles/article7075.asp
It isn’t a dilemma for me, I’m not Mormon but I will continue to be friends and good company with them.
If the Mormon/Christian question comes up with your Catholic friends don’t remain silent, be honest and tell them what the official position of their church and their Pope is.
Staying right now out of the Mormon vs. Christian arguement, did anyone else have my reaction to this? I’ve no doubt she was terribly mistreated, but I’m surprised she didn’t get pregnant. A girl of that age who has sex at least once daily for a year usually does, I would think.
There are lots of infertile women, of which she may be one, but many of those get pregnant and miscarry. In other words, I have a feeling there is more to this story.
Although, when I think about it, it really is none of my business. As long as the man is put away, which there seems to be a problem with doing.
For me it had nothing to do with faith. The article is reporting a terrible crime and it’s just impossible for me not to connect this terrible crime with the one that whoopi goldberg and other hollywood types would justify in order to save polanski from justice.
Ok, I was speaking rather vaguely in regards to the exact entity, but my overall point still stands.
The headline reflects and promotes the mindset that every preacher of the Bible, no matter what sort, is a likely demon of danger driven to mayhem by a “fundie” reading of the Bible and repressed impulses. Dawkins would be proud.
comments on the page are right.
“It’s just wrong to refer to this abductor and molestor as “a preacher”. He was a transient due to obvious mental and moral (and spiritual) sickness and he had no following other than the voices in his own head.”
“An heiress to what?”
welcome to UK dumbass media templates.