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Jindal: Yes to Obama, No to Vitter
WGNO 26 ^ | October 2, 2009 | Jeff Crouere

Posted on 10/03/2009 2:52:02 AM PDT by chemicalman

Several months ago, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal was the hot ticket in the Republican Party. Unfortunately, he bombed when giving the GOP response to President Obama's address to Congress in February. Now, he is registering at the bottom of the pack among potential GOP presidential hopefuls. At the recent Values Voters Summit hosted by the Family Research Council in Washington D.C., Jindal finished seventh with only 5% of the vote.

With such lackluster results, Jindal is revamping his strategy. In an interview with Politico, Jindal recommended that Republicans work with President Obama to find compromise on the issue of health care reform. He advised that Republicans approach the President and say "we're willing to work with you in a bipartisan way."

The offer to compromise is quite a different approach from the one that Jindal has exhibited in recent Fox News interviews. He is also pursuing a different strategy from many Republicans who seem more interested in stopping any kind of health care bill.

In the same Politico interview, the Governor refused to endorse incumbent Republican U.S. Senator David Vitter for re-election. Even though Jindal headlined a Vitter fundraiser several months ago, he did not offer any kind of support for the Senator in the interview. This stance will not endear Jindal to conservatives in the Republican Party, who have rallied around Vitter in recent months. It is hard to imagine Jindal endorsing Vitter's opponent, Democrat Congressman Charlie Melancon, who supports the policies of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and President Barack Obama, so his stance is perplexing.

While Jindal has been tending to other business or traveling to fundraisers in other states, Vitter has been conducting 22 town hall meetings on the health care issue. While Jindal has been silent on the tea party movement, Vitter has been vocally supporting the local groups and leading the charge. Whether it is the issue of Obama cabinet members or the President's liberal agenda, Vitter has been in strong opposition. In contrast, Jindal has been taking a much lower profile position.

In the interview, Jindal noted that his focus is not on the presidency, but on running for re-election in 2011. However, Jindal should not assume that he will receive a free ride in the next election. Jindal's poll numbers are decent, but not particularly impressive. One problem is that he has been labeled a hypocrite on the issue of the stimulus bill. After criticizing the legislation, the Governor not only accepted the federal money, he then traveled the state distributing stimulus checks to local communities.

If Jindal has weak poll numbers in 2011, he may face competition from either Lt. Governor Mitch Landrieu or State Treasurer John Kennedy. In recent weeks, Kennedy has taken the lead on the important issue of streamlining government and has acted more like a Governor than Jindal. He is conducting media interviews each day and offering concrete ideas on how to save taxpayer money. One of Kennedy's proposals is to refurbish Charity Hospital instead of building an expensive new LSU teaching hospital. Again, Jindal has been largely absent from the political debate on the issue of streamlining state government or determining the future of health care in New Orleans. If Jindal had shown leadership, he could have resolved the hospital conflict months ago.

With Kennedy has been leading on the state level and Vitter has been leading on the national level, maybe Jindal figured it was time to return to the debate. Yet, his message of compromise will not help his poll numbers here in Louisiana or among Republican activists nationwide. A large majority of Republicans want to defeat the President's health care plan, not compromise with him.


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: jindal; la2010; obama; vitter
Jindal drank too much Koolaid at the McCane ranch BBQ.

Common, Bobby. You can do better.

1 posted on 10/03/2009 2:52:03 AM PDT by chemicalman
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To: chemicalman

It really does not matter, since according to the “birthers,” Bobby Jindal is not a natural born citizen.


2 posted on 10/03/2009 2:54:37 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: chemicalman

Jindal obviously jumped the shark, or he was overrated
to begin with.
In my opinion, anyone that plays nice with Marxist should
be thrown out with all the RINOS.


3 posted on 10/03/2009 2:56:04 AM PDT by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: chemicalman

“At the recent Values Voters Summit hosted by the Family Research Council in Washington D.C., Jindal finished seventh with only 5% of the vote.”

1. Mike Huckabee 170 28.48%
2. Mitt Romney 74 12.40%
3. Tim Pawlenty 73 12.23%
4. Sarah Palin 72 12.06%
5. Mike Pence 71 11.89%
6. Newt Gingrich 40 6.70%
7. Bobby Jindal 28 4.69%
8. Rick Santorum 15 2.51%
9. Ron Paul 13 2.18%
10. Undecided 31 5.19%
11. Other 10 1.68%


4 posted on 10/03/2009 2:56:30 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (It's a Girl!)
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To: chemicalman
Jindal recommended that Republicans work with President Obama to find compromise on the issue of health care reform.

Goodbye Bobby. Final blow to his presidential ambitions.

5 posted on 10/03/2009 3:04:22 AM PDT by SolidWood (Sarah Palin: "Only dead fish go with the flow!")
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To: Berlin_Freeper

While I think Huckabee might make a viable candidate in the primaries, Romney won’t be. He’s DOA. Tim Pawlenty can give it a shot, but he’s got a very steep road to travel.

My big question is this: Where is Senator DeMint’s name? At this time, and I know it’s early days, the nomination is his to lose.


6 posted on 10/03/2009 3:09:44 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: chemicalman

Way too much hero worship among conservatives.


7 posted on 10/03/2009 3:10:30 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: trumandogz
Pretty lame attempt at a thread hijack.
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8 posted on 10/03/2009 3:11:28 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Bummer for Jindal, he seemed like a really classy guy - but he probably hired a bunch of “professional” Republican advisers as I’m sure that he didn’t have much time to spend on national issues, given the hell-hole he’s trying to run over there. As to the poll where Huckster is up 2:1,...the only poll that matters, to me at least, is one where you have to pay-to-play, and on that poll (i.e., Amazon.com), it’s all Sarah.


9 posted on 10/03/2009 3:13:49 AM PDT by BobL
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To: mkjessup

I actually like Bobby. I have seen him speak and he does great, but I cannot figure out what he is trying to do here.

When he runs for president, I am afraid that some will claim that he is not a natural born citizen.


10 posted on 10/03/2009 3:20:39 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: BobL

Personally I prefer someone who doesn’t need a team of advisors to tell him or her which way the wind is blowing.


11 posted on 10/03/2009 3:22:28 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
That poll has something tainted about it when Mitt's name is at #2.

Looks like a popularity poll, and not a values poll.

12 posted on 10/03/2009 3:27:48 AM PDT by chemicalman
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To: chemicalman

I think McCain is having an evil influence on the party. Jindal was never a very forceful person, but I always thought he was more clear-cut than this in his conservatism. Looks like McCain (who is supposedly trying to remake the party in his own image) got to him. Too bad for Jindal.


13 posted on 10/03/2009 3:27:57 AM PDT by livius
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To: chemicalman

The governor is headed down the wrong path. I like the guy a lot and I hope somebody pulls him back quickly from this plethora of political mistakes he has embarked upon.


14 posted on 10/03/2009 3:29:24 AM PDT by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: chemicalman

Jindal-going to fundraisers and raising money
Vitter-going to townhalls and listening to the people

Now we know why Jindal has fallen off the wangon.


15 posted on 10/03/2009 3:29:56 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: chemicalman

For the most part, polls are more of an attempt to drive public opinion rather than guage it. In the run up to last year’s election, many polls included people who weren’t running while excluding people who were actively campaigning.

American Idle politics at its best.


16 posted on 10/03/2009 3:35:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: chemicalman

No, No, No. No frigging compromise on health care ever. Everytime someone even allegedly on our side says, “everyone agrees we need to fix health care”, I want to puke. All that does is give democrat trash and their media the ammunition to say “everyone wants healthcare reform” without defining what “reform” really means or even who “everyone” really is. Jindal ought to be ashamed of himself.


17 posted on 10/03/2009 3:41:49 AM PDT by RushLake (Liberalism--Terrorism financed by your tax dollars.)
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To: trumandogz
I actually like Bobby. I have seen him speak and he does great, but I cannot figure out what he is trying to do here.

You and me both, I don't understand why he would suddenly want to make nice-nice with Comrade 0bama when 0bama's values are diametrically opposed to ANY sane thinking American.

When he runs for president, I am afraid that some will claim that he is not a natural born citizen.

If Jindal runs for President, any questions regarding his eligibility will MOST likely come from 'Rats who will see it as payback for the legitimate questions of conservatives regarding 0bama's dubious qualifications. Jindal hasn't tried to hide a thing, 0bama has spent over a million bucks with the law offices of Perkins Coie since January of this year to conceal the details of his background and to stifle legal challenges.

(btw, I was just jivin' wid ya on that 'lame' thang bro, lol)
18 posted on 10/03/2009 3:42:10 AM PDT by mkjessup (0bama is doing to America what Roman Polanski did to his victim. And without lube.)
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To: chemicalman

Someone needs to tell Jindahl that this has nothing to do with “health care reform.”

Obama and his dem cohorts are trying to launch a complete government takeover of the entire healthcare industry - one sixth of the American economy. Like Rush says, “If they control your healthcare, they own you.” It’s all about control and power, Bobby....NOT reform.

And by the way, Gov. Jindahl, when was the last time the democrats approached the Republicans and said, “We would like to work with you in a bi-partisan manner?” I hear the sound of crickets.....


19 posted on 10/03/2009 3:42:48 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (A Jimmy Carter got us a Ronald Reagan.....a Barack Obama will get us a Sarah Palin)
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To: cripplecreek

“Personally I prefer someone who doesn’t need a team of advisors to tell him or her which way the wind is blowing.”

Obviously. I’m just guessing here, but maybe he was simply trying to have someone tell him what issues are important and what the best positions are...so he doesn’t get nailed like Sarah did. Reagan didn’t need the advisers, but then he didn’t have an office at the time. I just think that the ‘professional class’ of Republicans is so dominated by the McCain types that finding a decent adviser is next to impossible, within the party (even though 75% of us FReepers could do the job right). What would be neat would be Rush vetting and selecting advisers for people like Jindal....that would keep Jindal out of these messes.


20 posted on 10/03/2009 3:45:17 AM PDT by BobL
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To: livius
I think McCain is having an evil influence on the party.

That senile sonuvabitch looks more evil than evil does.
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21 posted on 10/03/2009 3:47:25 AM PDT by mkjessup ("We have nothing to fear from an 0bama Administration" - John 'Quisling' McCain)
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To: John Valentine
My big question is this: Where is Senator DeMint’s name? At this time, and I know it’s early days, the nomination is his to lose.
It's Palin. If you look at the history of people who actually got elected, you see that no senator has ever beaten a sitting president - and only one (Harding) has ever defeated a governor running for president.

And compared to Palin, other candidates in the Republican field can't draw flies. McCain sure couldn't, and he was already the nominee of his party. I make no doubt that there are people who could write a better platform than she, but you can't beat somebody with nobody. And IMHO the risk of conservative fratricide is too great when we're faced with McCain's declared goal of purging conservatives from the Republican Party. We are IMHO well advised to throw in with Sarah as being markedly better than anything that was on offer in the race for the '08 nomination. It's true that she's been nicked by the media, but that is a simple case of taking flak when you're over the target.

IMHO things will be bad enough in '12 that the only thing that would save an Obama reelection bid, other than massive fraud, would be another McCain running on the Republican side. And if we don't unite behind Sarah, my concern is that, with the help of the media and the Democrats, McCain will succeed in sticking us with another such nominee.


22 posted on 10/03/2009 3:48:06 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (SPENDING without representation is tyranny. To represent us you have to READ THE BILLS.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

If the “Value?” voters don’t wake up they are going see to it that we have marxist rule for 8 years!!


23 posted on 10/03/2009 3:51:48 AM PDT by timetostand
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To: chemicalman
In an interview with Politico, Jindal recommended that Republicans work with President Obama to find compromise on the issue of health care reform. He advised that Republicans approach the President and say "we're willing to work with you in a bipartisan way."

In older news, many Jewish leaders recommended that their people in Nazi Germany work with national socialists in a bipartisan way, that they meekly follow orders and hope they would be the last ones killed. In some ghettos, Jewish leaders reported resistance fighters to the socialists to avoid trouble. Jindal is following in their footsteps: if socialists want to destroy our way of life quickly, why not compromise, and maybe they'll destroy our way of life more slowly?

24 posted on 10/03/2009 3:54:29 AM PDT by TurtleUp ([...Insert today's quote from Community-Organizer-in-Chief...] - Obama, YOU LIE!)
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To: mkjessup

I agree. He has a particularly creepy smile.


25 posted on 10/03/2009 4:02:34 AM PDT by livius
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Excellent points you’ve made. Governor Palin has proven her vote gathering ability and she certainly has the name recognition now. Despite the efforts of the ‘Rats and their media accomplices, all of the mud slung in her direction has failed to stick.

She is down to Earth, approachable, with good common sense and that resonates well.

I think a Palin/DeMint ticket would be something to consider.


26 posted on 10/03/2009 4:06:25 AM PDT by mkjessup ("We have nothing to fear from an 0bama Administration" - John 'Quisling' McCain)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

I can speak with some knowledge of Jindal and Louisiana Politics since I have been involved in it for over 35 years.

Jindal is a sincere pro-lifer, I think, but has not had the issue tested since election to governor.

In last year’s legislative session, we (conservative activists, talk radio, bloggers) had to stand over him with a baseball bat to make him cut taxes. It was a hell of a fight and well-documented.

Also last year, we had to throw a ring-tailed fit to make him veto a tripling of legislative pay.

This past spring, we had to hold off a determined assault from the teacher’s union/public employee/college administration axis to repeal last year’s tax cut. Jindal stood on the sidelines and watched.

For sure, Jindal is an improvement over MeeMaw Blanco, but he is a Big Government Republican.


27 posted on 10/03/2009 4:07:13 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: BobL
I just think that the ‘professional class’ of Republicans is so dominated by the McCain types that finding a decent adviser is next to impossible

True. There are way too many permanent political fixtures in Washington DC when the only things that are supposed to be permanent are the buildings and monuments.

Men like Washington and Jefferson were never career politicians. Politics was something that was mostly thrust upon them and they had no intent of it becoming the central focus of their lives. In most of Jefferson's post presidential writings he made it clear how much he had come to despise the job of politics and just wanted to go on with his life as a simple businessman.
28 posted on 10/03/2009 4:09:45 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: chemicalman

It pains me to say Bobby has been a disappointment. A Louisiana governor has awesome executive powers such as line item veto and appointments to dozens, perhaps hundreds of positions. A governor can move an agenda if he plays hardball. In the campaign, he talked like a conservative, walked like a conservative and I voted for him. He governs like a McCain-Kennedy…if he is ever here to govern.

Moon Griffon, our statewide El Rushbo of talk radio claims there are actually two Jindals: Campaign Bobby and Governor Bobby. One said all the right things, the other is doing exactly nothing or worse the wrong things. He had a sterling record prior to election. What is that old saw: some places tolerate corruption, Louisiana demands it. By that measure, he is exceptional. He is an honest person, a rarity in Louisiana politics. He made his money the old fashion way, hard work.

I don’t understand what he is about. There is much work to do in Louisiana. In every ranking of states where one would want to be first, we are in a death struggle for last place. In every ranking where one would wish to be last, we are near the top.

If any Freeper has seen our governor, please tell him that we are leaving the lights on for him at governor’s mansion in Baton Rouge. Tell Bobby, it is time to come home.


29 posted on 10/03/2009 4:19:07 AM PDT by DryProng
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To: mkjessup

Jindal, it seems clear now, wears a RINO hide. What a disappointment. I prefer the lady who dresses in moose skins.


30 posted on 10/03/2009 4:21:45 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: BobL

Acyually, the only poll that mattrs is on election day. But judging from the name[s] at the top of the list I am getting ready for four more years of obama.


31 posted on 10/03/2009 4:32:09 AM PDT by sport
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To: trumandogz

Old dogz don’t let old dogz grow up to be ‘birthers’. Next you’ll be calling us TEABAGGERS. WTH is wrong with you?


32 posted on 10/03/2009 4:39:57 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

What are the chances that Obama gets primaried out in ‘12?
Maybe setting up Palin vs Hillary, or Palin vs ?


33 posted on 10/03/2009 4:44:10 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: chemicalman

John Adams and Winston Churchill were men who floated in and out of favor, not because they chased adulation and “modified their strategy”, but because they set a straight course which other men occasionally recognized as the true path.


34 posted on 10/03/2009 4:56:04 AM PDT by SampleMan (No one should die on a gov. waiting list., or go broke because the gov. has dictated their salary.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Jindal’s obviously not ready this decade and he may never be, but that Values Voters Summit isn’t an accurate picture of where prospective candidates stand anyway.


35 posted on 10/03/2009 5:02:53 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: chemicalman
find compromise on the issue of health care reform

That is REALLY going to endear him to his former base.

36 posted on 10/03/2009 5:09:04 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

I would enthusiastically, happily support Sarah Palin. I have nothing but respect and admiration for her. Her picture is above my desk at work and it will stay there. The only other picture I have in my office (other than family) is Ronald Reagan.

That said, I have no problem with Jim DeMint if things go his way. Other than those two, I don’t really get excited by any of them.


37 posted on 10/03/2009 5:42:18 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: iopscusa
What are the chances that Obama gets primaried out in ‘12?
Maybe setting up Palin vs Hillary, or Palin vs ?
Three years is an eon in politics, but I would not expect it. What, after all, is Obama doing that Hillary would object to and expect to gain traction in a Democratic Primary? Jimmy Carter was renominated in '80, and I'd expect Obama to be renominated in '12. Or else the Democratic Party would surely split on racial lines.

I can conceive of scenarios in which the Republicans nominate another RINO but Palin "Goes Rogue" and gets on the ballot with the endorsement of one or more "third" parties. And proceeds to draw more votes than the Republicans, and possibly wins the presidency.

TR didn't win election in 1912, but he did outpoll the Republican ticket . . . and things stand to be worse in the economy in 2012 than they were in 1980.

[Republican] John Anderson [ran as an independent in 1980 and] won 6.6% of the popular vote and failed to win any state outright. He found the most support in New England, fueled by liberal Republicans who felt Reagan was too far to the right; his best showing was in Massachusetts, where he won 15% of the popular vote. Conversely, Anderson performed worst in the South. Anderson failed to achieve the spoiler effect, due to Reagan's strong showing and the fact that he arguably attracted at least as many Democrats to his ticket as Republicans. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1980
Arguably the Republican Party comes out as the "third party" in a race of a RINO vs. Obama vs. Palin.

38 posted on 10/03/2009 7:54:04 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (SPENDING without representation is tyranny. To represent us you have to READ THE BILLS.)
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To: chemicalman

Wrong Way Jindal!! Go BACK to CONSERVATIVE ROOTS, Bobby!


39 posted on 10/03/2009 7:59:41 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: John Valentine

Demint says he’s not interested.

- JP


40 posted on 10/03/2009 8:13:04 AM PDT by Josh Painter ("Government cannot make you happy or healthy or wealthy or wise." - Sarah Heath Palin)
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To: trumandogz
It really does not matter, since according to the “birthers,” Bobby Jindal is not a natural born citizen.

Were both his parents U.S. citizens at the time of his birth in the U.S.? If yes, then he is a natural born citizen.
41 posted on 10/03/2009 8:20:04 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan
Were both his parents U.S. citizens at the time of his birth in the U.S.? If yes, then he is a natural born citizen.

No they had recently come to the US as Grad students when he was born.

42 posted on 10/03/2009 8:28:39 AM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: aruanan

He is NOT eligible. His parents were not American citizens at the time of his birth.


43 posted on 10/03/2009 8:30:33 AM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: trumandogz

Don’t you hate it when someone brings up the constitution when you’re making such a good point?


44 posted on 10/03/2009 8:32:33 AM PDT by nufsed
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To: MilspecRob; Uncle Sham
No they had recently come to the US as Grad students when he was born.

Then he's OUT.
45 posted on 10/03/2009 9:02:08 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Berlin_Freeper

By the looks of that poll, I can tell who the voters were... At least the only true conservative on the list came in #4... She still has sway ;)


46 posted on 10/03/2009 9:16:19 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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