Posted on 10/03/2009 6:07:34 AM PDT by blueyon
Here is video of Karl Rove absolutely schooling Juan Williams (sitting in for Bill O'Reilly) when Williams made the mistake tonight of accusing President Bush and his administration of "doing nothing" to reign in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to avoid a Housing Meltdown. That's all it took.
Rove proceeded to lay out the facts that the Bush Administration tried to get legislation to regulate the mortgage lenders, but were blocked by Democrats, including then Senator Barack Obama.
This is one of the main reasons I miss Brit Hume on Special Report. He used to do that to Juan all the time. For the most part, Bret Baier just moves on to the next commentator. Baier is such a lightweight.
I saw that earlier this morning - Rove really pinned Juan’s ears back...
What was really amusing was that Juan - being used to making the ‘Bush’s Fault’ charge unchallenged - was completely at a loss when confronted with facts — he tried to quickly change the subject, and Karl wasn’t going to let him...
Hilarious.....
Juan was filling in for O’Reilly last night
Evidently the video of the dems attacking and insulting the auditors was not seen by Juan.
He would have us believe him rather than our own eyes.
I suspect he is on orders from NPR to toe the line or else lose his job there.
Wonder when he will be on the side of America rather than Obama. The two sides are icompatible.
I used to love the way Brit Hume used to give Juan a hard stare after Williams would say something ridiculous and start in on him with, “Now Juan...(lecture, scold, lecture). That used to be the highlight of the “Fox All Star Panel” discussions for me.
Anyone who knows what they’re talking about can always make a fool of the libhole they’re talking to.
Juan needs to go back to NPR.
What a tool.
Juan has undergone a bit of a transformation in recent years. Granted, he still has a long way to go but it wasn’t too long ago that his sneering countenance could be counted on to parrot back the liebural line in lockstep fashion. I actually kind of like him most of the time. The sneer seems to be gone now. Maybe this incident will hasten his progress.
I hate that “interrupt you” BS that passes for journalism.
Juan doesn’t have the talent to flip burgers much less interview.
I wonder where Juan went to get his head sewed back on?
Yes, but the Bush Administration did not try to push this publicly and they never defended themselves very well either. McCain rolling over like a cheap whore in his campaign did not help either. The Republicans did nothing to protect their brand name and got completely destroyed.
How retarded is Juan Williams? “What did you and Bush do about it?”
“Well, we tried to fix it five years earlier, but the Dems, including Obama, filibustered it”
“Now you’re just pointing fingers, what did you DO about it?”
So does Juan Williams not understand how our government works? I know they would like for Obama to be king, but the President is not king you goons.
Why in the world would FOX let Juan fill in for OReilly?
Juan is a certified liberal and dumb as a post.
He should be shocked, no one has defended Bush for the last three years. That is why we have the #1 Bush-hating cheerleader as POTUS right now.
Correction...McCain IS A CHEAP WHORE!
Bush + Henry Paulson = plenty of blame to pass around.
Anyone paying attention to tings over the pat 3 years just had to know the facts of the mortgage fiasco. The role played by the Democrats, Barney Dodds Obama and yes ACORN. What is most surprising is the inability of the Republicans to shine the light of blame where it squarely belongs. The Democrats really got a free pass on this one. And how about the fantastic bonuses reaped by Democrat lackies who ran Mae and Mack. The Dems, who are magicians at steering blame away from themselves, immediately blamed Wall street for all the economic woes, Wall street and Bush, of course. I remain in “shock and awe” as to how they continue to get away with it.
No he isn't, a cheap whore has limits. I repent to all cheap whores everywhere for my previous comment.
Too bad Carl didn’t get a chance to explain how Clinton stacked the deck on low income loans by putting Andrew Cuomo in charge at HUD(regulator of Fannie and Freddie),Johnston,Harold Raines and Jamie Gorelick at Fannie,and Rahm Emmanuel at Freddie. And he had Janet Reno pressure the banks.
This has never and will never receive the attention it deserves as the leading cause of the housing crisis.
Keep blaming Bush it just proves you aren’t paying attention.
On the scheme of things, they are probably 4th or 5th on the list behind the Fed, big banks/mortgage brokers, dems in Congress, and ACORN.
Remind me again - who pushed TARP?
Eplaining to them CRA, Fannie and Freddie, some basic banking and accounting and then how they didn't even fall under Sarbanes Oxley would be over their heads.
Then they won't take the time to see the YouTube video of the Congressional Black Caucus running the block in House Hearings with Christopher Shays laying out how they do not fall under the "Acts of 33 and 34" (Banking and SEC acts under FDR) and Sarb-Ox. He nailed it, yet to the ignorant that goes right over their head.....
Say what you will about Juan Williams but he has done some very good work in attacking buffoons in the black community. He doesn’t always blame things on “whitey.” He and Cosby take the entire Rap and Hip Hop “culture” to task and place blame where it belongs; on the anti-woman element of such “art.” He said that the vilest white racist couldn’t posible hurt blacks as much as their own youth!
Here is my problem; why is Rove the only one out there bringing this up. The Republicans should beating this drum everyday.
The big banks/mortgage brokers definitely go behind Bush and Paulson on your list. The OCC essentially forced CRA-level, equal-outcome, no collateral, credit-history-and-ability-to-pay-unimportant lending standards nationwide.
And the Bush administration was all for pushing and increasing the bad, minority loans. Sure, Fannie and Freddie were corrupt Democrat honeypots whose worst excesses the Republicans wanted to rein in. But the regulation Rove and Bush wanted to put them under didn’t prove particularly effective in the broader banking industry anyway.
Why did we have a mortgage crisis? Because we had a “housing boom” caused by loose credit. But why was credit loose, bundled and sold upstream with nothing to back it except the over-priced houses of a bubble market? Because every banker has to invest in something to make money off of your money. It’s reminiscent of the oil bust of the 80’s.
As a nation, we needed SOMETHING to manufacture in America that couldn’t be imported more cheaply from overseas - and that was houses. Thanks to our environmental policies, our pesky desire for more than a bare existence standard of living, and our blind eye to the unfair trade policies of other countries, we had little else to actually build, to make and sell. So Republicans cried foul over the threat to cut off the housing industry’s source of cheap labor (hint: they came from Mexcio), and everyone touted the housing boom as a sign of prosperity rather than a scheme run up on one huge-a$$ unsecured pay-day loan from the Chinese.
So high-up muck-a-mucks of both parties pumped sunshine into the bubble and made as much dough as they could, and bundled the debt and had AIG stamp it with their meaningless insurance guarantee, knowing that eventually you and me, the good ol’ too polite to complain taxpayers, would eventually have to suck it up and foot the bill.
Now the bubble has burst and guess what? The manufacturing sector is in the pits, the USA is running up trillions of dollars of debt, and only a few brave conservatives are actually offering solutions for how to revive America’s ability to manufacture - that is, add work to raw materials to create things of value the rest of the world might actually buy. You know - create jobs?
Liberal points finger at Republican, Republican responds, Liberal complains about finger pointing. Classic.
Juan should never have Rove on when he’s using the Blame Bush card. Rove is far too bright for that dimwit.
Pray for America and Our Troops
Does anyone have the link to his video? I didn’t see it but would like to.....
Yes, Rove was great!
They have Standards; low ones, but standards still.
Why in the world would Fox give that idiot a shot at hosting.
He is the Jeanine Garofallow, of the news media. He makew statement s that have absolutely NO basis in fact.
If the link in the thread didn’t work for you, here is the direct link to the YouTube vid. Hope this works as Karl is not to be missed!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv5EIBJbVgw&feature=player_embedded
I think FOX News has Juan Williams on there to have someone to beat up, and nothing more. He also presents the illogical bare bone argument from the liberal side of an issue, and the other guests on FOX news has free range to bury him and that dimwit argument he presented.
I usually watch BO’s talking points and the first 15 minutes of his show. Last night I didnt watch past Juan’s first paragraph. WTH is fox thinking?
This may be the reason why - "Socialism needs two legs on which to stand; a right and a left. While appearing to be in complete opposition to one another, they both march in the same direction." -- Paul Proctor
Too bad Rove didn’t mention _resident obama’s work as a lawyer for ACORN filing lawsuits against banks to force them to hand out money to people who would never be able to pay it back.
Very astute observation. If you pay close attention to what Juan says, you can see that he very carefully, extensively and articulately sets himself up to be beat down, taken apart and creamed. In some cases, he'll repeat himself if he hasn't been whipped enough on the first round.
This has been going on for years. Juan makes a lucrative living at doing this.
He is Fox's token pinata.
Rove knows this very well, also. Ole Karl was so pleased with himself last night after his demolition derby that he was beaming from ear to ear. I wanted to reach through the TV, rub his belly and toss a few coins in his lap.
Leni
bfl when you tube decides it wants to behave.
Actually, before Zero got elected, Juan was beginning to be downright reasonable on a lot of issues. However, as soon as Zero got elected, Juan, and a lot of other liberals, have seemed to go out of their way to support the ultra left side - in support of Zero.
Another regular on Fox is Kristin Powers - and I’ve seen the very same change in her.
Bush Administration tried to get legislation to regulate the mortgage lenders.That should be posted on every billboard in the country for the next three years just to prove how much of an idiot Obama &Co. are.
The part I liked was after Juan was blaming Bush and Republicans. Then Rove told Williams of the Republican efforts, and Democrats blocking them. At that point Juan complained that Rove was blaming Democrats! The irony wasn’t lost on me but I’m sure it went over poor little Juan’s head.
As Juan said, the Bush administration failed.
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