Posted on 10/03/2009 7:35:04 AM PDT by Zakeet
I’ve always preferred Ford over GM but now it’s not even a consideration. I will may buy a Ford but I will never buy a GM or Chrysler.
Auto Brand loyalty in America is probably greater than marital fidelity. GM has always had brand loyalty over Ford. Where is it now? I do think people are deciding that they will NOT buy a car from a govt company. This is the kind of thought process that is defeating Obamacare.
Yes, I get those mailings daily from various sources, Discover, Amex, Visa. Somebody somewhere has plenty of money to lend.
Yes, it’s sad that GM now actually has some highly competitive vehicles. In addition to the Malibu, they have the new Chevy Equinox, which has gotten very good reviews, and the new 2010 Buick LaCrosse recently won a head to head shootout with the Lexus ES350.
If only they had let private capital come in and revive GM without the unions, GM could have been a success story. My hope now is that GM quickly fails again, and can do a proper Chapter 11 and restart free of the government tentacles.
The mainstream media doesn't have much interest in reality, do they?
Regardless of what happens with the UAW, with other car companies, or with our country, for the rest of my life I will not under any circumstances buy a GM/Chrysler vehicle manufactured after the date that they took MY tax dollars against my will. I am boycotting both companies for life, along with all TARP banks. My next car may be a Ford, but it will not be from either of the two nationalized companies. I seem to have a lot of company in that decision. How's that socialism working for you, UAW?
I promise to say only nice things about you forever, (or at least until the check clears.)
Gosh, wouldn’t you think that management with a modicum of foresight could have foreseen that CFC was steamrolling its way to Congressional approval, that demand would therefore increase, and that all company efforts should be focused on ramping up production to meet that demand?
Apparently not. So what do we conclude?
1. That the new government-appointed management is incompetent and/or does not know how to run an auto company?
2. GM and Chrysler have been so damaged and are so disorganized that they were incapable of ramping up production in a timely manner?
"... the press has almost dogmatically refused to consider the possibility that consumers continue to shun now state-controlled GM and shotgun-wedded Chrysler because they refuse to do business with bailed-out companies that gobbled up tens of billions of dollars of taxpayer money, running roughshod over disfavored classes of creditors and violating long-established principles of contract law in the process"
Exactly right and well stated.
Here are the facts as I see them:
1. The UAW spent at least $4.9 million to elect Obama. UAW Donations
2. Obama dictated the terms of GM and Chrysler bankruptcy granting UAW special creditor status and making the labor union a major shareholder in both companies.
3. Americans object to the payoff and avoid GM and Chrysler dealerships like the plague.
4. GM and Chrysler must die in order to make the stolen shares of stock totally worthless.
Things will eventually reach a point when even the densest liberal will see a connection between the lack of sales of Chrysler/G.M. products to the rebellion of the American people to the "bail outs".
Coming soon, a government sponsored (tax payer sponsored) rebate program for buyers of G.M./Chrysler and it will be a big one.
I read on Bloomberg that bankruptcy law requires that retirees' pension benefits have priority in bankruptcy over bond holders, so it may not be true that contract law was actually violated in these bankruptcies. But I was amazed that the administration left the UAW contacts essentially intact with no reduction in hourly wages and benefits. That's just a payback to the UAW for its political support of the Dems, when clearly GM and Chrysler need a lower cost structure and lower vehicle prices to help them compete with foreign car companies and Ford. That was an awfully short-sighted and overconfident decision by the administration to not cut the hourly pay and benefits for union workers at GM and Chrysler.
I think ultimately the cost of union labor and some salaried workers will have to be reduced for those companies to survive. Meanwhile they're probably going to need and get still more tax money from the Treasury Dept. as the political payback continues. The public will get increasingly annoyed by the continuing subsidies for GM and Chrysler and the unpopularity of those subsidies may force the administration to let corporate managers cut union pay and benefits. But will it be too late by then? Will there be a major backlash against those companies for all the subsidies they received and the super cushy deal given to the UAW by this administration--a backlash that makes it impossible for those companies to stay in business? Stay tuned for further developments. Meanwhile I'm shopping for an SUV and looking only at Japanese and Korean brands.
The press are being dishonest? Who'd a thunk it?
Maybe that's why newspapers are going out of business.
I think this administration made a big mistake when they left the UAW’s contracts intact at GM and Chrsyler. That super cushy deal for the UAW was obviously political payback for supporting the Democrats for decades. There should have been at least some kind of meaningful reduction in sky-high UAW labor costs—at least a 10% reduction. When there are concerns about warranties and whether these companies will stay in business, GM and Chrysler need lower vehicle prices to compete and they can’t price low enough with their current vehicle cost structure. The UAW doesn’t understand that when two vehicles are essentially the same in performance and quality, then just a few hundred dollars in price can be the deciding factor that makes consumers buy foreign brands.
Under no circumstances would I buy a government made car.
I am not alone.
I have been wonering about this, thanks for posting.
One thing the administration ignored is that GM and Chrysler make most of their profits by selling trucks and SUVs to Republicans and independents, who are exactly the kind of people who are greatly annoyed by the super sweet deal given to the UAW in these bankruptcies. Liberals tend to buy foreign brands and buy more cars than trucks and SUVs. So the administration alienated GM & Chrysler’s most important customer group with the way they handled these bankruptcies. That was a major miscalculation by the White House and its manufacturing “czars”. The UAW should have taken some kind of a haircut to show that everyone was willing to sacrifice to keep GM and Chrysler in business, for reasons of fairness and to not annoy their most important group of customers.
A Toyota dealer I know said the past 2 months have been the best ever- over 200 cars sold per month.
Good analysis
True, liberals in general know next to nothing about business, market dynamics, customer preferences, etc. Exactly the reasons government should keep its nose out of such matters, and let the private sector research the situation and do it right.
I asked my senator Evan Bayh for a picture of the 50 year old UAW retiree my taxes were supporting for $3200/month pension and silver plated healthcare. So far no response.
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