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Did Chicago Lose Olympic Bid Due To US Passport Control?
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Posted on 10/03/2009 8:09:52 AM PDT by Clint Williams

An anonymous reader writes

"Yesterday, Chicago lost its bid for the 2016 Olympics (which went to Rio de Janiero instead), and it's looking very likely that US border procedures were one of the main factors which knocked Chicago out of the race: 'Among the toughest questions posed to the Chicago bid team this week in Copenhagen was one that raised the issue of what kind of welcome foreigners would get from airport officials when they arrived in this country to attend the Games. Syed Shahid Ali, an I.O.C. member from Pakistan, in the question-and-answer session following Chicago's official presentation, pointed out that entering the United States can be "a rather harrowing experience." ... The exchange underscores what tourism officials here have been saying for years about the sometimes rigorous entry process for foreigners, which they see as a deterrent to tourism.'"


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
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1 posted on 10/03/2009 8:09:52 AM PDT by Clint Williams
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To: Clint Williams

Yes, we let obambi pass out of our control


2 posted on 10/03/2009 8:11:58 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Clint Williams

what a crock


3 posted on 10/03/2009 8:11:59 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: Clint Williams

If I as a citizen have to go through security............so do you, get over it, world.


4 posted on 10/03/2009 8:12:06 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Clint Williams

So Rio won because it is easier for the terrorists to get in. That should add some fireworks to the Olympics.


5 posted on 10/03/2009 8:12:08 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Clint Williams
More spin...They are trying protect the O.


6 posted on 10/03/2009 8:12:44 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: Clint Williams

Allahpundit had a great retort to this... the questioner came from Pakistan... which hosts terrorist training camps...


7 posted on 10/03/2009 8:14:44 AM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: Clint Williams
Among the toughest questions posed to the Chicago bid team this week in Copenhagen was . . . what kind of welcome foreigners would get from airport officials when they arrived in this country . . . .

Well you're sure gonna get one helluvanass-kicking now.

8 posted on 10/03/2009 8:15:19 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: Clint Williams

Another reason why it was good that Hussein lost the bid...we won’t have to admit Mr Ali and his pig fornicating pals into the country.


9 posted on 10/03/2009 8:16:51 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: Always Right

Europe has ALWAYS had stronger passport/airport enforcement than the US. Menacing, in fact. You need only travel abroad to find that out.


10 posted on 10/03/2009 8:17:08 AM PDT by GoldHorde (iron sharpens iron, so one another)
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To: Clint Williams
“... pointed out that entering the United States can be “a rather harrowing experience.” ... “

And how was the border experience attending Olympics in China, Russia, et al??? and freedom of moving about the host countries??

11 posted on 10/03/2009 8:19:37 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Clint Williams

Foreign marathon runners arrive in the US all the time.

They run in Chicago, LA, NY, Boston, Denver.......haven’t heard of a single elite runner being denied entrance in the US.

It seems that the IOC was merely looking for an excuse to spit in O’s face.


12 posted on 10/03/2009 8:20:50 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Clint Williams
[Syed Shahid Ali, an I.O.C. member from Pakistan . . .pointed out that entering the United States can be “a rather harrowing experience.”]

I'd rather lose the Olympics than have somebody like Syed Shahid Ali move “dirty bomb” components or—more likely—high-grade heroin through a U.S. point of entry.

13 posted on 10/03/2009 8:21:22 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Clint Williams

We need passport control. We are in two wars and we want to host the Olympics? Insane.


14 posted on 10/03/2009 8:22:46 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Clint Williams
Did Chicago Lose Olympic Bid Due To US Passport Control?

No.
It happened because it is a lousy idea.

The U.S. economy is circling the drain with a real idiot at the helm, and the failing economy can't afford the certainty of pissing away another trillion$ on the most corrupt city/state in the U.S.

The rest of the world isn't driven entirely by corruption, PC, ACORN, and SEIU.

Or an ignoramus trying to learn on the job, without a real clue, surrounded by anarchist hoods.

Good thing.

15 posted on 10/03/2009 8:24:20 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Obama Garden Club: Nothing but plants.)
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To: elpadre

This is pure B.S. Everyone knows all ya have to do is cross the checkpoint at the Rio Grade. Whats the problem? Just ask Juan McCain for a hall pass. :(


16 posted on 10/03/2009 8:24:30 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Page 73, Johnson, Navin)
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To: Clint Williams

Can’t be too difficult. I was in Las Vegas last week and it seemed as if half of the hotel guest were speaking Slovenian—or some such.


17 posted on 10/03/2009 8:24:45 AM PDT by joeystoy
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To: Clint Williams

But, IF Chicago had been picked to host the Olympics, you can bet it would have Obama’s victory. The media really does think we’re THAT stupid.

The fact remains, Obama failed!


18 posted on 10/03/2009 8:25:53 AM PDT by Jackson57
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To: darkwing104

ditto


19 posted on 10/03/2009 8:27:03 AM PDT by celtic gal
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To: Gay State Conservative
And all Ali was just trying to do was get the Americans to commit not to profile against his terrorist buds!

Out of politically-correct sympathies for Ali's question, they gained a non-racist excuse to let fly their otherwise held-back disdain for the incompetence of Jarrett and Me-Shell, and Barry's obvious swaggering attempt to influence their decisions with his presence.

HF

20 posted on 10/03/2009 8:27:34 AM PDT by holden
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To: Clint Williams

The answer to why the US lost the bid to hold the Olympics in 2016 is so obvious and self-evident, it’s not funny.

What is funny is how the media and some pundits are willing to rhyme and reason despite the obvious and self-evident.


21 posted on 10/03/2009 8:30:15 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Kakaze
If I as a citizen have to go through security............so do you, get over it, world.

There are different security protocols at Immigration for Americans and foreigners. Post 911, it's a bit tricky for foreigners to enter the US assuming they fly in on an airplane. Swimming across the Rio Grande is another story.

22 posted on 10/03/2009 8:30:47 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: GoldHorde

In Iceland they are very professional but courteous at the same time. I have been over there 3 times in this year. Upon return, arriving in JFK all the personnel seem to have a really nasty attitude. They snarl and growl and are just nasty. Polite is not in the vocabulary. Coming into Logan has been much better. Only on one trip was one agent at passport control unpleasant..the others were fine to everyone but the line I was in, the man was ugly to everyone. I cannot speak to other airports.


23 posted on 10/03/2009 8:30:49 AM PDT by celtic gal
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To: Clint Williams
I had occasion to go through the harrowing experience of dealing with Border Patrol earlier this week at an inspection point in southern NM. The BP guy asked if I was a citizen of the US when I presented my ID. I told him I was from Texas. He laughed, and waved me through.

/johnny

24 posted on 10/03/2009 8:31:42 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: Clint Williams

Gee, you mean it doesn’t have anything to do with our lying president?


25 posted on 10/03/2009 8:43:14 AM PDT by SusaninOhio
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To: Clint Williams

In other words, given where terrorists are currently hiding bombs and the reluctance of athletes to have probes inserted THERE, the IOC decided to go to Brazil instead of going through our TSA harrassment.


26 posted on 10/03/2009 8:45:05 AM PDT by TurtleUp ([...Insert today's quote from Community-Organizer-in-Chief...] - Obama, YOU LIE!)
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To: Clint Williams

Hmmmm, didn’t seem to bother the last Olympics we had here.


27 posted on 10/03/2009 8:45:08 AM PDT by McGavin999 (How's that change old Hopey Dope promised you working out?)
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To: Clint Williams

No, Chicago lost the Olympics because of 0 control.


28 posted on 10/03/2009 8:45:47 AM PDT by raisincane (Dims think we're all oblivious to the obvious)
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To: Publius6961

Publius, you really nailed this one.

I nominate you for FR truth czar.


29 posted on 10/03/2009 8:54:13 AM PDT by Walrus (My congressman is toast in 2010 --- how about yours?)
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To: cranked

The Libs will spin but the result is plain: Obama promised us the world would love us again. He gave speeches in Europe. He gave speeches in the Muslim countries. He gave a speech at the UN. Yet the world does not love us.

Obama failed his promise.


30 posted on 10/03/2009 8:57:10 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: BigBobber

Chicago lost because all the other cities made better and more reasonable arguments for their cause.

Obummer’s argument was “Okay now that you all like me and like the way I will soon be running the world, you can show your appreciation by voting for Chicago.”


31 posted on 10/03/2009 9:08:40 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Clint Williams

I.O.C. gived Obama the finger and the media will spin any story to cover for Obama but that is getting old even for the progressives.


32 posted on 10/03/2009 9:12:36 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Clint Williams

We require a passport just like Brazil does? This is really silly!


33 posted on 10/03/2009 9:20:26 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: GoldHorde

Try the Dominican Republic. Leaving the country a while back, a young lady who spoke good English (my Spanish is not very good but good enough) wanted to take my cell phone. I have a wife, step kids and grandchildren there so I showed her pictures on my phone and softened her up. They are tough there. I’ve been wanded, frisked, emptied my pockets and the like. They’re trying to show the US how tough they are.

I miss the old days when your friends and family could walk to the gate with you or, on arrival, be at the gate to greet you. Oh well, I guess I’m just getting old.

The IOC nixed Chicago’s bid and gave it to Brazil because South America has never hosted the games. Maybe it’s time to share with our neighbors. I really don’t mind Obama and Richard Daley being p***ed off. So be it. The loss of jobs the games would provided is unfortunate, however.


34 posted on 10/03/2009 9:25:11 AM PDT by NYDave (.)
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To: NYDave

I got shaving cream and shampoo yanked from my check-in baggage at the Haikou airport on Hainan China. I thought it was very odd.

BTW - I like the idea of Rio for the site. It will be interesting to see the sites.


35 posted on 10/03/2009 9:35:25 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Dutch Boy

I am glad they chose Rio too. A first for them and they deserve it. They’ve been waiting a long time probably. I am also glad that Chicago came in dead last in the voting.

I love the drudge report headline about the ego has landed.


36 posted on 10/03/2009 9:40:38 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: GoldHorde
Europe has ALWAYS had stronger passport/airport enforcement than the US. Menacing, in fact. You need only travel abroad to find that out.

Not my experience at all, and I'm over there several times a year. (I have 6 years left on my current passport, already have had to have the extra pages added to it, and at the current rate of travel I will need a new passport in 3 to 4 years.)

They don't even ask why I'm there; they just swipe, stamp and send me on. Foreigners entering here go through more, including iris scans and maybe still fingerprinting, and I don't know what else.

As a U.S. member of an International Standards Organization technical committee, I can say that when it's the U.S. hosting the annual face-to-face meeting, we work hard to find meeting locations attractive enough to draw our international colleagues despite the security barrier they have to clear.

37 posted on 10/03/2009 9:53:00 AM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: joeystoy
Can’t be too difficult. I was in Las Vegas last week and it seemed as if half of the hotel guest were speaking Slovenian—or some such.

Heh. I was there last week too (Mon-Wed at the LV Hilton & Conference Center) but almost all I heard was American English.

38 posted on 10/03/2009 9:55:08 AM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: celtic gal
Upon return, arriving in JFK all the personnel seem to have a really nasty attitude. They snarl and growl and are just nasty. Polite is not in the vocabulary. Coming into Logan has been much better.

My preferred usual airports of re-entry: EWR (Newark_ -- most friendly Immigration staff, MSP (Minneapolis), SEA (Seattle, 'cuz it's home), IAH (Houston). Least preferred: DTW (Detroit).

39 posted on 10/03/2009 9:58:07 AM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: Kakaze
Getting through security is not the issue, it is getting a visa:

1. Pay $130 (nonrefundable) for Visa Application.
2. Fill out on-line documentation about who you are.
3. Get interview with Embassy to get approval.
4. Get denied Visa for no apparent reason.

I went to Thailand this year, got visa by filling out short form on plane and going through immigration. I was in the terminal in less than 10 minutes from getting off plane.

For a Foreigner to come here the process really sucks.

40 posted on 10/03/2009 10:24:15 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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To: Dutch Boy
I got shaving cream and shampoo yanked from my check-in baggage at the Haikou airport on Hainan China. I thought it was very odd.

I've had that happen internationally a few times... Last time was flying out form Guangzhou to LA. I asked why (in Mandarin - I speak a bit) and was told it was US policy that any liquids over 100mL (3.3 ounces) cannot go. I said US policy was only for carry-ons; that threw them for a loop!

Apparently we're telling most countries to not allow anyone more than three 3.3 ounce (100 mL) bottles in their luggage, not making it clear it's only carry-on luggage. So planes bound for the US often have even checked luggage torn apart.

What's even more insane - I cannot take my 1.5" long pocket knife with me, but up in business class, when I had my steak dinner, they provided a nice and sharp steak knife with a 5" blade, and of course everyone in business class got a 3" serrated blade on their all-metal dinner knives.

Much safer knowing that my 1.5" pocket knife isn't on me, but the NWA/Delta-supplied metal steak and dinner knives are!

41 posted on 10/03/2009 11:03:06 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the Defense of the Indefensible)
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To: sionnsar

I’m with you on SEA and also I like DFW and PDX; avoid LAX if at all possible, especially if coming from Asia! I just got back from China, and we arrived at 8:10 AM (very favorable jet stream), about 40 minutes ahead of schedule. We sat ON THE PLANE until 9 AM when the immigration officers started their shifts.

And we weren’t the only plane WAITING for their 9 AM start time. Insanity - 1500 people (four flights) held up because 8 officers don’t clock-in until 9 AM... We were cued into the lines at 9:05 AM as the officers sauntered to their booths, spent a few minutes getting things set up “just right”, then started processing.

Good thing I wisely switched my 10:30 AM flight to SEA to an 11:35 AM flight instead; by the time I got through immigration and customs it was 10:20 AM.

If immigration was open when we arrived, it would have been no problem; as it is, LAX is about the worst place I’ve come through in terms of immigration/customs.


42 posted on 10/03/2009 11:10:12 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the Defense of the Indefensible)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Getting through security is not the issue, it is getting a visa

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT! I've got a business partner who is Chinese; she had applied for - and been denied - US visas multiple times in the past, severely hampering her ability to do business with the US (she actually IMPORTS US products to China). Speaks great English, has plenty of wealth, strong family connections (reasons to return to China).

For her first visa attempt with our business, I told her we need to present the paperwork in the EXACT ORDER in which it was asked for by the Embassy. Put every sheet in the exact order they list, even though they state you do not need to worry about order.

Sailed right through, got her visa. Not because the information on the application had changed, just because we made it "easy" for the visa examiner to thumb through and check the papers were there.

My partner said the examiner spent about 30 seconds looking over all 9 pages of documents, asked 3 questions in the span of 1 minute, then stamped "approved". In other words, the reason she had been denied in the past wasn't because of a problem with her answers or status - it was some dumb visa examiner being too lazy to look at forms that may be out of some pre-set order that is not required.

Compared to what it's been like to get visas anywhere else for me (or for her), it's insanely difficult. Heck, for most countries where I need a visa and an invitation letter, I just write one to myself and include it! Invite myself as a company owner to visit the foreign country to do business, never had a problem with it, ever.

43 posted on 10/03/2009 11:17:04 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the Defense of the Indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

My significant other is Brazilian, and the quasi-Soviet process for her family to get a visa to visit causes considerable headaches for all involved. It doesn’t help, however, that Brazilians seem to have a habit of “overstaying” their visa once they arrive.


44 posted on 10/03/2009 11:22:21 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

My significant other is Brazilian, and the quasi-Soviet process for her family to get a visa to visit causes considerable headaches for all involved. It doesn’t help, however, that Brazilians seem to have a habit of “overstaying” their visa once they arrive.


45 posted on 10/03/2009 11:22:22 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Clint Williams

No, we lost because the IOC didn’t want to give the bid to Chicago due to the high crime rate and because the OBamas both made extremely arrogant pleas to the IOC. Bozo dropped the dime on himself and that is it in a nutshell.


46 posted on 10/03/2009 11:33:11 AM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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To: calex59
No, we lost because the IOC didn’t want to give the bid to Chicago due to the high crime rate

So they chose Rio? ROTFLMAO!

47 posted on 10/03/2009 11:35:49 AM PDT by CrosscutSaw
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
If immigration was open when we arrived, it would have been no problem; as it is, LAX is about the worst place I’ve come through in terms of immigration/customs.

Agreed - US Immigration at LAX is rude, stupid, and obnoxious to non-citizens and permanent residents. Singapore has the nicest people and best process I've experienced.

48 posted on 10/03/2009 11:38:34 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("If you cannot pick it up and run with it, you don't really own it." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: Clint Williams

why did he decline our hospitality? Many reasons I’m sure but I can’t help but think that the The Centennial Olympic Park bombing is probably still fresh in everyone’s mind (2 dead, 111 injured) and, let’s face it Chicago is a sh!th&*e just like Atlanta.


49 posted on 10/03/2009 11:48:43 AM PDT by RC one
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To: CrosscutSaw

Did Rio have a video out lately that showed a gang beating a kid to death using 2x4s? I didn’t think so. Rio may have a high crime rate but they don’t compare to Chicago on the stage of world perception. Plus my whole comment also included the clueless BS that Bozo and MO came up with on their speeches. They came across as the arrogant a**hats that they really are. That coupled with the beating video pretty much assured they were going to lose out. Bozo is not well liked in Europe, he has dissed to many people there, plus they can see what an empty suit he really is.


50 posted on 10/03/2009 12:16:38 PM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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