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Queen 'appalled' at Church of England moves, claim Vatican moles
Telegraph ^ | October 3, 2009 | Richard Eden

Posted on 10/04/2009 4:57:47 AM PDT by NYer

According to informants quoted in The Catholic Herald, the Queen has "grown increasingly sympathetic" to the Catholic Church over the years while being "appalled", along with the Prince of Wales, at developments in the Church of England.

The usually well-informed newspaper adds that the Queen, who is the Supreme Governor of the C of E, is "also said to have an affinity with the Holy Father, who is of her generation".

In July, The Sunday Telegraph disclosed that the Queen had told the heads of a traditionalist group, formed in response to the liberal direction of some parts of the Anglican Communion, that she "understood their concerns" about the future of the 80 million-strong global church.

One leading evangelical said: "We found the letters very supportive."

Her intervention was predicted to have surprised many because the group, called the Fellowship of Confessing Anglicans, was feared by some to be a divisive force and one of its senior figures was this accused of being homophobic.

The then Bishop of Rochester, Dr Michael Nazir-Ali, called on homosexuals to repent. He said the Church of England must stick to the Biblical teaching that marriage should only be between a man and a woman.

"We want to hold on to the traditional teaching of the Church," he said. "We don't want to be rolled over by culture and trends in the Church," said the bishop, who was one of the most senior religious figures in England.

A Buckingham Palace spokesman declines to comment.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: anglican; anglicanpope; churchofengland; queen; religion; uk

1 posted on 10/04/2009 4:57:48 AM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 10/04/2009 4:58:31 AM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer

As a “former” Episcopalian, I wish the libs would just leave and go form their own church ... do whatever they like, worship whatever gods they choose ... but leave the Episcopal Church, that I grew up in and loved, behind and intact. So much for a Sunday morning wish.


3 posted on 10/04/2009 5:20:13 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (The Patriot's Flag at http://www.thepatriotsflag.com/ - Democrat Hypocrisy)
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To: NYer
while being "appalled", along with the Prince of Wales, at developments in the Church of England.

I don't know what could possibly appall Prince Charles. Didn't the "Defender of he Faith" once call for adding Muslims to the House of Lords?

4 posted on 10/04/2009 5:22:57 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

The Church we grew up in no longer exists.


5 posted on 10/04/2009 5:25:41 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
I wish the libs would just leave and go form their own church ...

It is the same in politics, business, culture, etc.....liberals have been conditioned to infiltrate and destroy all that is established.

They know that creating their own church would fail. They know that creating their own political party would fail. They know that creating their own radio programs would fail.

Hence, they have to destroy what exists....they have to get acceptance for their foul ways even if they have to ram it down everyone's throats.

You see, liberals, once they realize what a small minority they are, then convince themselves that they are more enlightened than the rest. This is the "tolerance" they preach and the desire to never keep score or have winners or losers (they would always be the loser)

6 posted on 10/04/2009 5:31:09 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
As a “former” Episcopalian, I wish the libs would just leave and go form their own church ... do whatever they like, worship whatever gods they choose ... but leave the Episcopal Church, that I grew up in and loved, behind and intact. So much for a Sunday morning wish.

I'm with you!

7 posted on 10/04/2009 5:40:39 AM PDT by PalmettoMason (Half Honkey.....ALL Donkey! BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA! Mmm, Mmmm, Mmmmm!)
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To: SeeSharp

I think it refers to the issue of gay marriage. The Muslims are also against gay marriage; so, being their supporter, Prince Charles was also appalled.


8 posted on 10/04/2009 5:53:18 AM PDT by paudio (Road to hell is paved by unintended consequences of good intentions)
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To: Erik Latranyi
The closest thing to a liberal "religion" would be the radical environmental movement, and their "god" is the earth.

Any faith that mentions sin or obedience causes liberals to curse and run away, followed by insults and claims of retardation.

Liberals are, you know, so much smarter than us. They would never place the words of a mythical book above the freedom of perversion.

9 posted on 10/04/2009 6:00:03 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: NYer

read later


10 posted on 10/04/2009 6:01:59 AM PDT by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: NYer

Good for you, Ma’am


11 posted on 10/04/2009 6:03:21 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
As a “former” Episcopalian, I wish the libs would just leave and go form their own church ...

They can't. They are parasites.

An operating definition of a Lefty is "somebody who is very generous with other people's money". In the case of Churches, they want control of assets that were created and built up by the efforts of conservatives. Same deal with universities, cities, and other entities that they seek to control.

12 posted on 10/04/2009 6:05:02 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: NYer
Well, the Church of England started when a king wanted a divorce and the lands of the Catholic Church.

Maybe the queen will correct that mistake and come back.

13 posted on 10/04/2009 7:09:00 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED. Barack OBORTION is a close second.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
You and me both.

We wound up swimming the Tiber, and we're very happy here. But of course we were ultramontane High Churchers, and a Low Church Piskie might not find a straight-up orthodox traditional Catholic parish very congenial.

14 posted on 10/04/2009 7:15:45 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: SeeSharp

His mother is Defender of the Faith, he has said he wants to broaden that to Defender of Faiths when he is king. I quit reading when the article said he was appalled.
He is a disaster.


15 posted on 10/04/2009 7:19:46 AM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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16 posted on 10/04/2009 7:22:35 AM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: FatherofFive
Maybe the queen will correct that mistake and come back and give back that which was stolen and replace that which was destroyed.
17 posted on 10/04/2009 7:31:31 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

It is not so much forming their own religion, it is all about destroying yours because yours provides a moral defense against their more egregious crimes - like the ones Roman Polanski commits.


18 posted on 10/04/2009 7:50:55 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: Raycpa

My heart goes out to you.... I just can’t imagine. I am so sorry for your loss.

God bless you.


19 posted on 10/04/2009 8:27:43 AM PDT by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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The Church we grew up in no longer exists.

It doesn't, but in a sense it does. TEC is dead. I quite unhappily left (P)ECUSA in 1983 for a Continuing Anglican church, but here I have found the same teaching and the same practices with which I was raised. "All" I had to give up was the world-wide Anglican Communion and being in declared communion with heresy.

20 posted on 10/04/2009 8:28:44 AM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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21 posted on 10/04/2009 8:30:02 AM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: FatherofFive
For a thousand years the arrangement was that if a King wanted a divorce that Church gave it to him.

The Pope broke that agreement.

22 posted on 10/04/2009 3:23:01 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (A small government conservative is close enough for government work.)
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Rubbish.


23 posted on 10/05/2009 6:58:01 AM PDT by Romulus (The Traditional Latin Mass is the real Youth Mass)
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To: FatherofFive

Amen FatherO’5!

The truth shall set them free...


24 posted on 10/05/2009 7:13:37 AM PDT by Barney59 ("Amen")
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
As a “former” Episcopalian, I wish the libs would just leave and go form their own church ... do whatever they like, worship whatever gods they choose ... but leave the Episcopal Church, that I grew up in and loved, behind and intact. So much for a Sunday morning wish.

But, but, but...what about the gays and lesbians? Aren't ALL sinners welcomed under the banner of the EUSA? Afterall, it's just about sex (I concur but just playing DEVIL's advocate here with respect to The Wrong Rev. Vickie Gene's ordination, etc...)

25 posted on 10/05/2009 10:42:52 AM PDT by meandog (GWB IS the reason for BHO!)
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