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McChrystal planned to move soldiers killed in Afghan siege
CS Monitor ^ | 10/4/2009 | Mark Sappenfield

Posted on 10/04/2009 7:54:39 PM PDT by Saije

One fundamental tenet of Gen. Stanley McChrystal's controversial Afghanistan strategy aims at avoiding precisely the kinds of attacks that killed eight American soldiers Sunday.

In what is being described as one of the boldest attacks of the Afghan insurgency, an estimated 300 militants sustained a day-long siege against a coalition outpost in Nuristan Province – a place where the rule of law is so tenuous and the terrain so forbidding that it is seen as one of the likeliest hiding places for Osama bin Laden.

It is also has fewer people than Cedar Rapids, Iowa.

Beyond the request for more resources that has engrossed America, McChrystal's battlefield assessment proposes deploying American troops in a profoundly different way.

Rather than sending them to the farthest-flung corners of a far-flung nation to hunt down scores of militants hiding in remote mountain caves, it intends to protect the Afghan population first, giving the most Afghans the greatest opportunity of establishing something approaching a safe and normal life.

Fourth of McChrystal's "four fundamental pillars" for a new strategy is: "prioritize available resources to those critical areas where the population is most threatened."

In fact, the very troops in Nuristan forced to fight off unseen attackers firing down from ridge lines cloaked in inclement weather Sunday are poised to be redeployed under McChrystal's new leadership, according to the Washington Post.

The change in course does not promise fewer casualties. Rather, it intends to focus US soldiers on areas where their sacrifices can potentially lead to longer-term security gains.

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bho44; coin; democrats; fallen; mcchrystal; obama; siege
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Is it possible that if he wasn't having to spend so much time advocating for his strategy that this would have been already?
1 posted on 10/04/2009 7:54:39 PM PDT by Saije
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To: Saije

Obama should be made to pay. He WANTS and WELCOMES our defeat.


2 posted on 10/04/2009 7:58:21 PM PDT by demkicker (Helping Democrats Become Extinct)
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To: Saije

sounds like Obama has found a general of like mind

don’t kill the enemy, let the enemy kill you (or more precisely, your own soldiers)


3 posted on 10/04/2009 7:59:23 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Saije
Sounds like a retreat. It's a losing strategy. I am thoroughly disgusted.
4 posted on 10/04/2009 8:02:55 PM PDT by skikvt (Green is the new red.)
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To: demkicker

It isn’t good to have our worst enemy in control of our fighting men and women. Fox in the hen house.


5 posted on 10/04/2009 8:03:25 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: Saije
Why is the General not running the war on the ground to start with? Granted, politicians give him resources, but he should allocate them as he sees fit on the ground.

"There's nothing so much like God Almighty on Earth, as a General on the battlefield". When did we lose that?

/johnny

6 posted on 10/04/2009 8:03:30 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

generals have always been subject to the whims of politicians.


7 posted on 10/04/2009 8:05:49 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: samtheman
sounds like Obama has found a general of like mind don’t kill the enemy, let the enemy kill you (or more precisely, your own soldiers)

I don't believe this is true. I think McChrystal and Petraeus and others are trying to win this war. Their strategy may be counter-intuitive, leading initially to more casualties, but then the Surge was counter-intuitive as well. And so have a lot of other military campaigns in history. Just my opinion. But there's no way I am going to compare McChrystal --who's put himself in harm's way for this country for the last 3 decades-- with that loser in the White House.

8 posted on 10/04/2009 8:05:57 PM PDT by Saije
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To: Saije

give me a break

the surge was not counter-intuitive

the surge was based on finding and killing bad guys

our strategy in Afghanistan is to get our own a$$’s blown off


9 posted on 10/04/2009 8:07:40 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Saije

“I think McChrystal and Petraeus and others are trying to win this war. Their strategy may be counter-intuitive, leading initially to more casualties, but then the Surge was counter-intuitive as well. And so have a lot of other military campaigns in history. Just my opinion. But there’s no way I am going to compare McChrystal —who’s put himself in harm’s way for this country for the last 3 decades— with that loser in the White House.”

I absolutely agree!!!!


10 posted on 10/04/2009 8:08:12 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Saije
Their strategy may be counter-intuitive

I.e., unimaginable to the keyboard kommandos hereabouts who advocate the "kill 'em all" strategy.

11 posted on 10/04/2009 8:09:29 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: samtheman

I honestly belive Obama stressed his support for Afganistan during the campain just so he wouldnt look like a liberal coward. It was all an act. He is going to mess this thing up then pullout.


12 posted on 10/04/2009 8:10:45 PM PDT by Gurgi
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To: samtheman

“the surge was not counter-intuitive

the surge was based on finding and killing bad guys..”

Only part of it. It also included getting off the big bases and getting into the neighborhoods, making the soldiers vulnerable to attack, changing the way they approached the locals, stuff like that.

Hey, I’m no military expert but I don’t see how we can put this on McChrystal. He’s only got so many men over there, only so much equipment. He’s asked for more. And he’s getting no response.


13 posted on 10/04/2009 8:10:55 PM PDT by Saije
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To: samtheman

It’s also true that this administration is attempting to micro-manage aspects of the war. Thus, a number of very stupid decisions are being made....in DC.


14 posted on 10/04/2009 8:11:21 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: skikvt
Gen. McCrystal doesn't know the word retreat or defeat. He is a leader, a warrior, a hunter and someone when given a task can get the job done. As he did repeatedly at JSOC - Given, he is given the resources needed to do so. He has a plan that can build off the past 8 years in Stan, which has seen more successes than not, but taking a Country out of the dark ages was always going to be a solution that required a decade of time (min). He also understands amateurs talk tactics while professionals talk logistics, logistics, logistics.

Nuristan is a logistics nightmare. It is a place for DA OPs and better left for SOFs/SF - Not the place with our current force structures to have conventional FOBs. In a few years, yes. Not now, under the current force structures.

15 posted on 10/04/2009 8:11:53 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: SumProVita

I will not think a US General is trying to let us loose. I will believe an anti-American ‘president’ like OBama will try and destroy us. So just we know, I have zero faith in this dirt bag.


16 posted on 10/04/2009 8:12:46 PM PDT by CT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slx8CCjoL4E&feature=related)
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To: Saije

The general has it all wrong. He should fight the war ruthlessly, as was done in WWII. Bomb the hell out of the resistance. Kill all the enemy and all those who support them. Don’t fight with two hands tied behind you. ROE’s are handcuffs. Put the fear of God in the enemy. Don’t honor Allah. Bomb them in their mosques. They go there 5 times a day. A little more rubble, a lot less trouble.


17 posted on 10/04/2009 8:13:19 PM PDT by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire at the moonbat loonery.)
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To: CT

I have NO faith whatsoever in this administration. Look what they’re doing with the Iran situation too.....


18 posted on 10/04/2009 8:14:33 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: demkicker

Obama’s agenda today was hysterical when I saw it on TV...he had 9 hours blocked out for the Detroit-Sox game and then he was going to watch the Bears-Lions and then Sunday Night Football with friends...then it is off to campaign all week at schools across the country for his health care plan.

He spent all day watching sports. I bet he spent all of 30 mins doing anything presidential.


19 posted on 10/04/2009 8:18:48 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: samtheman
the surge was based on finding and killing bad guys

Actually that is not true. The "Surge" was to fill the vacuum of power left over from all the finding and killing bad guys DA Ops of 06/ early 07. The Surge was perfectly timed to do so. However, the dirty secret of Iraq is, AQ and its main allies within Iraq were defeated, routed in the ugly fighting of 06/07...which created a vacuum of power that needed to be filled. Filled by whom? Either more mimics of AQ, Iraqis? or us? Us being the most dependable....which is exactly what the surge did and accomplished. Thus giving further time for a normalcy effect to further take root within Iraq. Which is exactly what has happened.

But it was the Op tempos of 06 (along with the maturity of our FID operations) that allowed for the surge to be so successful.

20 posted on 10/04/2009 8:20:02 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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