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Barack Obama furious at General Stanley McChrystal speech on Afghanistan
Telegraph ^ | Oct. 5, 2009 | Alex Spillius

Posted on 10/05/2009 7:41:35 AM PDT by peggybac

The relationship between President Barack Obama and the commander of Nato forces in Afghanistan has been put under severe strain by Gen Stanley McChrystal's comments on strategy for the war.

According to sources close to the administration, Gen McChrystal shocked and angered presidential advisers with the bluntness of a speech given in London last week.

The next day he was summoned to an awkward 25-minute face-to-face meeting on board Air Force One on the tarmac in Copenhagen, where the president had arrived to tout Chicago's unsuccessful Olympic bi

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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1 posted on 10/05/2009 7:41:35 AM PDT by peggybac
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’ An adviser to the administration said: “People aren’t sure whether McChrystal is being naïve or an upstart. To my mind he doesn’t seem ready for this Washington hard-ball and is just speaking his mind too plainly.” ‘

Who’s not ready???? Gawd, this makes me sick.


2 posted on 10/05/2009 7:43:00 AM PDT by peggybac (Peggy "Sweet Peach" bac <--my mob name)
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To: peggybac
Obama can't handle the truth...He has been humiliated...AGAIN!
3 posted on 10/05/2009 7:43:01 AM PDT by halo66
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To: peggybac

I’m not a military man, but I have to say I am not impressed with the strategies of either the president or the general, but if the general says he needs resources we should give them or get out.


4 posted on 10/05/2009 7:43:50 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: peggybac
Obama doesn't handle the truth very well, especially when it's thrust upon him.
5 posted on 10/05/2009 7:43:57 AM PDT by highlander_UW (To anger a conservative tell him a lie. To anger a liberal tell him the truth.)
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To: peggybac

McCrystal spoke truth to (a person in a position of) power.

Sux if the empty suit didn’t want to hear or heed the advice.


6 posted on 10/05/2009 7:44:21 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: peggybac

How dare this “General” question the “ONE”? Doesn’t he know his place? Doesn’t he realize the “ONE” is infallible and omnipotent? Off with his head...off with his head I say! /s


7 posted on 10/05/2009 7:45:53 AM PDT by mort56 (He who would sacrifice freedom for security deserves neither. - Ben Franklin)
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To: peggybac

Uh, oh. General McCrystal didn’t get the memo explaining that Dear Leader and his team are theorists and do not appreciate any information based on reality.

Better take it all back, General, so that Dear Leader can continue to bask in the glow from his halo.


8 posted on 10/05/2009 7:46:05 AM PDT by Happyinmygarden (Yes, actually, I have pretty much seen and heard it all before...)
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To: DonaldC

What does Obama know about military issues let alone the continuity of American policy?

The great Anti American is bitter.... screw him.


9 posted on 10/05/2009 7:46:14 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: peggybac
Obama used to like people who spoke truth to power.

Now? Not so much.

10 posted on 10/05/2009 7:46:30 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Ask not what the Kennedys can do for you, but what you can do for the Kennedys.)
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To: peggybac

I find it interesting that the General can go on TV and voice his opinion but is stopped from going to Congress.


11 posted on 10/05/2009 7:46:34 AM PDT by RC2
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To: Blueflag

Seems to me McChrystal finally got his attention. 25 minutes should have been hours weeks ago. Bama is an ass, what do you want the generals to do? Zinni came out this weekend to and was confused by Bama and HE is a liberal that was 100% behind Bama.


12 posted on 10/05/2009 7:47:04 AM PDT by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: peggybac

Somehow, I just have a difficult time imagining Gen McChrystal being intimidated by meeting with Obama on Air Force One. I imagine him sitting down while the President enters the room, and then asking him for a beer.

How do you, as a General, respect a President who places his own glory in appealing for the Olympics, over the lives of men in the armed forces who are laying their lives on the lines in Afghanistan? How do you, as a General in charge of a war, respect a President who has time to appear on David Letterman, but does not have time to talk to the Military Leaders in the past 80 days?

I imagine the situation boiling down to this “Wanna fire me? Go for it. - in the mean while make yourself useful and get me a beer”. Obama knows that if he fires the General, then the General is free to go off and write a book about his experiences serving under President Zero, and can detail the lack of leadership, experience and interest in the lives of the US Military.

If anyone would be uncomfortable after the meeting on Air Force One, I sincerely doubt it was the General.


13 posted on 10/05/2009 7:47:10 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: halo66
This picture says it all -- Obama is not happy in this picture while the General is smiling:


14 posted on 10/05/2009 7:47:13 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: himno hero

I wonder about the Gen. James Jones who is supposed to be advising him.


15 posted on 10/05/2009 7:47:36 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Is it too soon for real conservatives to launch a "We Tried to Warn You Tour"?)
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To: peggybac

I thnk that pretty much sums up why their meeting lasted only 25 minutes.

Seems like Bush met with his military advisors, Patreus and others routinely.

I fear Viet Nam again. A gradual involvement with no winnin strategy and full of restraints on our troops.

The Russians couldn’t pull it off, so is McChrystals’ strategy different?

Why also are we singling out the Taliban? I thought it was Al Quaeda that is the enemy.


16 posted on 10/05/2009 7:48:39 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Praying for -16 today.)
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To: peggybac

Epic FAIL. Unfortunately this one is going to cost American lives.


17 posted on 10/05/2009 7:49:14 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: peggybac

Why is it that we can only hear the truth from a foreign newspaper?


18 posted on 10/05/2009 7:49:15 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: peggybac
"People aren't sure whether McChrystal is being naïve or an upstart. To my mind he doesn't seem ready for this Washington hard-ball and is just speaking his mind too plainly."

Un-frickin-believable!!
19 posted on 10/05/2009 7:49:41 AM PDT by McKayopectate
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To: peggybac

It seems to me that if the only place that the President can find time to speak with the military leader of a war effort is on the tarmac of a foreign airport, then the problem is Obama’s attitude not the General’s outspoken speech.


20 posted on 10/05/2009 7:49:42 AM PDT by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: peggybac

So, this much ballyhooed meeting between the President and his general wasn’t actually to discuss the war but the generals comments on it that embarrassed the President? Then the general still hasn’t had the chance to discuss the situation in Afghanistan with the President. Swell, so much for “fighting the real war.”


21 posted on 10/05/2009 7:49:56 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: peggybac

BTTT


22 posted on 10/05/2009 7:50:04 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: peggybac

How dare that uppity general interrupt BO and the Worst Lady’s Copenhagen junket??? Getting the Olympics for BO’s cronies to make a bundle is much more important than our troops’ welfare or our country winning or losing a war.

Mrs. Wide Load should have went upside the General’s head with that right hook her father taught her to throw.(She told that charming anecdote during her “I want the Olympics” speech.)

Boy, we’re lucky we have this guy as our Divine Ruler, aren’t we?

/SARC


23 posted on 10/05/2009 7:50:48 AM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (Dreams from My Father--(food, shelter, and education from some typical white folks)
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To: Reaganesque

Right.

Photo op and agitprop.


24 posted on 10/05/2009 7:51:14 AM PDT by Sparko ("Barack Hussein Obama He said Red, Yellow, Black or White All are equal in His sight. Mmm, mmm, mmm")
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To: mort56
The "ONE" couldn't even look the General in the eye during what some of us assume was the LECTURE:


25 posted on 10/05/2009 7:51:24 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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A obama 25 minute power play.......pathetic.

For over 6 weeks he has ignored Afghanistan.

He better make a decision or he will face another Black hawk down scenario.

No one wants that.

26 posted on 10/05/2009 7:51:28 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: PhiKapMom

The POS does not even have the decency to reach his hand out to the General.


27 posted on 10/05/2009 7:51:29 AM PDT by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: PhiKapMom

0 shows absolutely no respect for our military...what a disgrace he is!


28 posted on 10/05/2009 7:51:38 AM PDT by halo66
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To: peggybac

There is a Douglas MacArthur moment coming

There can be no fifty-fifty Americanism in this country. There is room here for only 100% Americanism, only for those who are Americans and nothing else. - Theodore Roosevelt


29 posted on 10/05/2009 7:51:42 AM PDT by Patrsup (To stubborn to change now)
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To: peggybac
Remember General MacArthur.....
30 posted on 10/05/2009 7:52:04 AM PDT by Pit1
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To: Reaganesque

That is what it looks like. The picture I just posted looks like Obama is lecturing the General but will not have eye contact with him as he is looking down.

I cannot believe some of these pictures they release from the WH to the media.


31 posted on 10/05/2009 7:52:38 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: Republic of Texas

So Obama didn’t meet with him to discuss the situation. He met with him to read him the riot act. How long would have Obama put off talking with him if he had not made the speech?


32 posted on 10/05/2009 7:52:39 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: PhiKapMom
Man oh man, does that picture ever capture the high and the low of American men! The fortunes of a lot of fighting men and women depend on these two men. One can only hope the general is more of a positive for the forces who depend on him than Obama is a negative for the same people.
33 posted on 10/05/2009 7:54:01 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (God Bless America, and wake us up while you're about it!)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Anyone who is working and advising Obama is one of two birds... either a licker trying to get a head or someone who is a marxist/fascist. Someone who wants to have a position once Obama is “ruling “ the nation.

This cheesey “this aint America “ has to stop.


34 posted on 10/05/2009 7:54:03 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: PhiKapMom

Barry just wants to forget about this messy military stuff. It’s clearly defined as a responsibility of our government by the Constitution and thus of not interest to him. He’d really like to get back to fun stuff like planning for the 2020 Olympics, Cap & Trade, taxing soda pop and installing ObamaCare.


35 posted on 10/05/2009 7:54:10 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: peggybac
The general has responded with a series of candid interviews as well as the speech. He told Newsweek he was firmly against half measures in Afghanistan: "You can't hope to contain the fire by letting just half the building burn."

Half measures get soldiers killed. But hey, according to Liberals, soldiers are supposed to die for their country so, where's the problem?

36 posted on 10/05/2009 7:54:26 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: nikos1121

A Taliban controlled Afghanistan would once again be a haven for Al Qaeda to launch global acts of terror.


37 posted on 10/05/2009 7:55:09 AM PDT by MNSlim
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To: peggybac

The moo has fallen off the moosiah. Oba-Mao is just another politician with a gift for lying.


38 posted on 10/05/2009 7:55:10 AM PDT by Tarpon (Oba-Mao is a reader, not a leader ...)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

“I wonder about the Gen. James Jones who is supposed to be advising him.”

I have been wondering also. Any insights out there?


39 posted on 10/05/2009 7:55:16 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: peggybac

Since Gen. George S. Patton Jr. is one of my heroes, I really admire generals who don’t mind getting pompous ass politicians “furious” at them. I think that it’s one of the most honorable things a soldier can do. Go General McChrystal! America is on your side!


40 posted on 10/05/2009 7:55:57 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I don't remember Americans being called "racists" when we fought against Hillarycare.)
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To: peggybac

How about some impeachment talk?

Americans - and someone’s relatives - are dying for what out there?

IMPEACH!


41 posted on 10/05/2009 7:56:53 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: peggybac

A better headline might be, not that 0zero is furious, but that he is “butt-hurt”.


42 posted on 10/05/2009 7:56:58 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: coon2000

Pure arrogance on the part of Obama — I couldn’t believe that picture when I found it yesterday.


43 posted on 10/05/2009 7:57:30 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: MNSlim
Didn’t you get the memo? Al Qaeda is now weak...we do not need to worry about them anymore. /s
44 posted on 10/05/2009 7:57:32 AM PDT by halo66
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To: peggybac

Truth hurts, huh? Lord have mercy, O is so inadequate.


45 posted on 10/05/2009 7:57:33 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: peggybac

He went public because he needs OUR help to support the troops.!
Obama has had the report for months and done nothing. McChrystal is protecting our soldiers and needs support!

Call the white house and contact your Representatives and tell them SEND MORE TROOPS!

White House 1-202-456-1414

Contact your Representatives at congress.org , simply put in your zip code and it will list your Representatives!

or simply google their name, for contact info.

Contact them on every little thing! The pervert nominee’s, ACORN, healthcare rationing, Cap and Tax, ALL of it! Everyday, send an email or call or both!


46 posted on 10/05/2009 7:57:40 AM PDT by Freddd
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To: gov_bean_ counter

... they are busy selling out america.

And making friends with the dictators and tyrants. You have to remember, he is taking us into post America. He is taking us to the Obamanana Republic.


47 posted on 10/05/2009 7:58:00 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: peggybac

You just have to remember the Democrats think of Vietnam as a victory. Just not for us. Which is why they are going down this road of Vietnamization for Afghanistan.


48 posted on 10/05/2009 7:58:12 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Hey Obama. Where is Osama Bin Laden?)
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To: Pit1

I remember reading General MacArthur fought the communist too..Now General Stanley has to fight the commies in the white house..


49 posted on 10/05/2009 7:59:20 AM PDT by PLD
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To: paterfamilias
Just a civilian beancounter here but it is fascinating to talk to a real soldier about the dynamics of asymmetrical warfare. A lot of the old guard don't understand it and don't like it. Perhaps Gen Jones is of the old school. For goodness sake we all know Obie isn't a risk taker.
50 posted on 10/05/2009 7:59:23 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Is it too soon for real conservatives to launch a "We Tried to Warn You Tour"?)
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