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Artificially Reconstructed “Ardi” Overturns Prevailing Evolutionary Hypotheses of Human Evolution
Evolution News & Views ^ | October 2, 2009 | Casey Luskin

Posted on 10/05/2009 8:21:59 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Artificially Reconstructed “Ardi” Overturns Prevailing Evolutionary Hypotheses of Human Evolution

The missing link presently being touted in the media, Ardipithecus ramidus, has had more reconstructive surgery than Michael Jackson. Assuming that their "extensive digital reconstruction" of its "badly crushed and distorted bones" is accurate, what does A. ramidus (or “Ardi” as the fawning media is affectionately calling it) really show us that we didn’t already know? We already knew of upright walking / tree-climbing, small-brained hominids—that’s what Lucy, an australopithecine, was. We already knew that there were australopithecine fossils dating back to before 4 million years, and this fossil is only a little bit older. So what does this fossil teach us? Assuming all the reconstructions of Ardi's crushed bones are objective and accurate, this fossil teaches us at least one very important thing: prevailing evolutionary explanations about how upright walking supposedly evolved in humans, confidently taught in countless college-level anthropology classes, were basically wrong.

In particular, A. ramidus casts doubt on the long-repeated hypothesis that humans evolved upright walking on the African Savannah where taller creatures had an advantage to see over tall grass by walking upright. A. ramidus walked upright in a “grassy woodland with patches of denser forest.” Time magazine’s article on A. ramidus explains the implications:

This tableau demolishes one aspect of what had been conventional evolutionary wisdom. Paleoanthropologists once thought that what got our ancestors walking on two legs in the first place was a change in climate that transformed African forest into savanna. In such an environment, goes the reasoning, upright-standing primates would have had the advantage over knuckle walkers because they could see over tall grasses to find food and avoid predators. The fact that Lucy's species sometimes lived in a more wooded environment began to undermine that theory. The fact that Ardi walked upright in a similar environment many hundreds of thousands of years earlier makes it clear that there must have been another reason.

(Michael D. Lemonick and Andrea Dorfman, "Excavating Ardi: A New Piece for the Puzzle of Human Evolution," Time Magazine (October 1, 2009).)In fact, this is an old argument. It’s rarely discussed, but there are a number of upright-walking, forest-dwelling ape-like species known from prior to 10 million years ago that are thought to be far removed from human ancestors. This implies that bipedalism in a hominoid does not necessarily qualify an individual as a human ancestor, and it also casts doubt on classical explanations for the evolution of bipedalism.

There is one other option: A. ramidus wasn't bipedal. In fact, one Science article is reporting some serious scientific skepticism about A. ramidus being bipedal:

However, several researchers aren’t so sure about these inferences. Some are skeptical that the crushed pelvis really shows the anatomical details needed to demonstrate bipedality. The pelvis is “suggestive” of bipedality but not conclusive, says paleoanthropologist Carol Ward of the University of Missouri, Columbia. Also, Ar. ramidus “does not appear to have had its knee placed over the ankle, which means that when walking bipedally, it would have had to shift its weight to the side,” she says. Paleoanthropologist William Jungers of Stony Brook University in New York state is also not sure that the skeleton was bipedal. “Believe me, it’s a unique form of bipedalism,” he says. “The postcranium alone would not unequivocally signal hominin status, in my opinion.” Paleoanthropologist Bernard Wood of George Washington University in Washington, D.C., agrees. Looking at the skeleton as a whole, he says, “I think the head is consistent with it being a hominin, … but the rest of the body is much more questionable.”

(Ann Gibbons, "A New Kind of Ancestor: Ardipithecus Unveiled," Science, Vol. 326:36-40 (Oct. 2, 2009).)Likewise the Chronicle of Higher Education is reporting:

Mr. Johanson, founding director of the university's Institute of Human Origins ... said, he expected the team's initial interpretations "will undoubtedly generate widespread debate," perhaps even including the question of whether Ardi is actually a human ancestor. Mr. Johanson said he was not among those who would raise that question. But, he said, "there must have been very rapid evolutionary change" for the human form to transform so quickly from Ardi to Lucy.
Of course, virtually none of this serious scientific skepticism about bipedality or ancestral status in A. ramidus is being reported in the mainstream popular media, where the species is essentially being universally reported as an upright-walking hominid ancestor of modern humans. Ardi thus leaves us with 2 options: either he wasn't an ancient upright walking hominid and isn't anything close to a human ancestor, or our previous—and confidently touted—theories about how bipedality evolved in humans were wrong. Take your pick.

So what do we have with “Ardi”? We have an extremely crushed “Irish stew” fossil that has undergone extensive reconstruction in order to become part of a PR campaign to make bold claims of ancestral status to the human line, even though at base its qualities are very similar to previously known fossils, and there's a lot of skepticism about the claims being made. In other words, we have the typical media circus that we find every time a new "missing link" is found.



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1 posted on 10/05/2009 8:22:01 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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Also see:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2354590/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2353767/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2354167/posts


2 posted on 10/05/2009 8:22:20 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

Of course, I disagree with the age assigned to “Arti”, but other than that, the article makes some excellent points on how this overturns the prevailing Temple of Darwin “wisdom” with respect to human evolution.

All the best—GGG


3 posted on 10/05/2009 8:25:19 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


4 posted on 10/05/2009 8:25:50 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: GodGunsGuts

Men’s theories come and go like fashion trends; The Word of God hasn’t changed in four thousand years and never will.


5 posted on 10/05/2009 8:37:25 AM PDT by RoadTest ( Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols - Psalm 97:12a)
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To: RoadTest

Amen, brother!

“Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.”

—Matthew 24:35


6 posted on 10/05/2009 8:40:03 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Seems to me that you are making a much bigger deal of Ardi than the evolution crowd is.

You make a lot of stew from a single oyster.


7 posted on 10/05/2009 8:44:52 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Is that why I’m seeing Temple of Darwin television commercials advertising various upcoming specials on “Ardi” every single night of the week?


8 posted on 10/05/2009 8:51:11 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

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http://www.drdino.com/


9 posted on 10/05/2009 8:51:19 AM PDT by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution.)
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To: humblegunner

Dammit, now I’m REALLY hungry


10 posted on 10/05/2009 8:51:50 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: humblegunner; GodGunsGuts

In the previous posting on Ardi (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2353588/posts?page=77#77)I mentioned that the line art drawing of the skeletal structure of the remains seemed inconsistent with a constant biped. The article notes that there are scientists examining the remains and are coming up with the same criticisms. The author had a valid discussion and should have stuck to that instead of some of her(?) sneering editorializing. She (?) is correct that the contrary interpretations are not being well reported in the media. As long as the scientific community itself is paying attention the media doesn’t matter that much. Scientists typically don’t rely on sensationalized headlines to guide their opinions.


11 posted on 10/05/2009 9:04:13 AM PDT by FormerRep
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To: humblegunner
....."Seems to me that you are making a much bigger deal"....

Oh brother! Ardi was just introduced as the "missing link" and you are already ragging on the ID's? He will supposedly rewrite history blah, blah, blah. Remember the "missing link" found a few months back that was a Lemur monkey"? They had a special program on National Geographic about the time they decided it was just an extinct Lemur monkey.

These "so called" scientists take a few broken bones and let a cartoon artist draw a picture of some ape looking creature with fur they don't even know if he had any, and the evo's get a woodie. Schools all across the country have to scrap their textbooks, and before they are even printed, there is a "new" discovery that will turn history on it's head. Evo had become the biggest scam in history. Lucy has been proven to be a scam, and they still talk about her like it was real. The bones were found scattered over a mile area and they can't even prove that it was from the same animal. Most of these "missing links" bones can fit in a shoe box and the evo's swear that they can rebuild a whole skeleton from a pig's tooth.

As far as GGG making a big deal, Re read the title of the piece.

"Artificially Reconstructed “Ardi” Overturns Prevailing Evolutionary Hypotheses of Human Evolution". "Overturn" is a pretty stiff word. I choose to concentrate on "Artificially Reconstructed".

12 posted on 10/05/2009 9:06:17 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: humblegunner

[[Seems to me that you are making a much bigger deal of Ardi than the evolution crowd is.]]

Apparently you haven’t read the ‘stunning news’ in thousands of publications and blogs about Ardi? And our kids will be taught that Ardi was a ‘common ancestor’ DESPITE the FACT that massive digital ‘reconstruction’ had to happen in order to come up with a ‘common ancestor’-


13 posted on 10/05/2009 9:28:25 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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[[In the previous posting on Ardi (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2353588/posts?page=77#77)I mentioned that the line art drawing of the skeletal structure of the remains seemed inconsistent with a constant biped. The article notes that there are scientists examining the remains and are coming up with the same criticisms.]]

But you watch- NatGeo, The History Channel, the Discovery channel- ALL channels that are watched by impressionable children, WILL NOT MENTION ANY of htose facts, and they WILL still tout Ardi as our ‘common ancestor’, and will undoubtedly invent an elaborate ‘life history’ of Ardi to show how we suppsoedly swung out hte trees, onto the ground, and began inventing space shuttles

The media DOES MATTER a great deal- many many many children wil lbe given a FALSE impression, and wil lgrow up thinking soemthign unscientific


14 posted on 10/05/2009 9:32:28 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Even one so thick as moi can see that Ardi though perhaps Ardent and willing to walk for sex (a lame reasoning) didn't have feet made for walking. Nor knuckles either despite the NBA length fingers and arms.
The question I have is why a perfectly good tree dwelling, sex finding, occasional hind leg walking animal would give up all that just to become an old bag of bones.
Supposedly we'll see Sunday as Ardi strides across the tube with the ease and pace of a politician headed for higher office.

“Of course, I disagree with the age assigned to “Ardi”, but other than that, the article makes some excellent points on how this overturns the prevailing Temple of Darwin “wisdom” with respect to human evolution.” GGG

Oh, quite so. Gazing over the Savanna Grass is looking for love in all the wrong places for Ardi and Friends, As she says it's a tree for me and thee and hopefully three. Now it's small teeth, home and honey instead of just hooking up for a while. No more red in tooth and claw or something like that.

After all the investment of Nat. Geo. in Madison Ave. yesterdays stale decafe Evoulutionary brew better be overturned, and now The Temple of Darwin can say,
“God created Adam from the dust, Well..we created Ardi from the dust, it just took us a little longer”.

We're not to pay any attention to the nay sayers who are really looking at the bones behind the curtains of hype. thanks for the heads up!

15 posted on 10/05/2009 9:44:15 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Is that why I’m seeing Temple of Darwin television commercials advertising various upcoming specials on “Ardi” every single night of the week?

I think you may be becoming obsessed!

Not that I don't find it amusing....

16 posted on 10/05/2009 10:21:45 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

obsessed is a pretty weak word for what most of have been seeing...


17 posted on 10/05/2009 12:01:33 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel

From time to time I have outbreaks of civility.


18 posted on 10/05/2009 12:04:26 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

succumbing to weakness?


19 posted on 10/05/2009 12:07:13 PM PDT by FormerRep
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To: humblegunner; xcamel
See number 51 here.
20 posted on 10/05/2009 12:08:06 PM PDT by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: Pharmboy; xcamel

My Obsession!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2oOVsF1T60


21 posted on 10/05/2009 12:22:30 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner; xcamel

HA...excellent. Now we just have to use that music and have Darwin’s picture, fossils, DNA, &etc as the images


22 posted on 10/05/2009 12:41:41 PM PDT by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Is that why I’m seeing Temple of Darwin television commercials advertising various upcoming specials on “Ardi” every single night of the week?

That's one thing I've noticed about so many evos, they are so profoundly disconnected from reality!

23 posted on 10/05/2009 2:31:36 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: FormerRep; GodGunsGuts; metmom
Scientists typically don’t rely on sensationalized headlines to guide their opinions.

Riiiiiight...so what explains their profound silence on so many of them then?

That's just it, scientists are no less human than any of the others...otherwise more would be stepping forward on global warming and this latest "Ardi" debacle...

24 posted on 10/05/2009 2:35:36 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: xcamel; humblegunner; GodGunsGuts; metmom

Ummmm “most” see the errrr “obsession” for exactly what it is.

That’s your entire problem.


25 posted on 10/05/2009 2:38:20 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: tpanther

Agreed!


26 posted on 10/05/2009 2:41:49 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

I’m coming into this discussion really late, but I have 2 questions for you:

1) How old is Ardi?
2) How old is Earth?


27 posted on 10/12/2009 10:07:31 AM PDT by coop71 (Being a redhead means never having to say you're sorry...)
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