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Tom Davis Adds Some Names to GOP 2012 Presidential Field [RINOs say Palin divisive, "hurts" GOP]
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 2009-10-06

Posted on 10/06/2009 4:22:14 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

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But former Republican Rep. Tom Davis, who used to run the House Republican campaign operation, added a few more to the mix today in a wide-ranging interview with The Wall Street Journal.

Asked who he viewed as 2012 contenders, the Virginia Republican replied: “I don’t think it’s anybody out there right now that’s running around, to be honest.”

Palin, he said, is too divisive. “I think as a candidate she probably hurts,” he said, adding to a chorus of Republicans recently dispelling a presidential bid for the former Alaska governor.

Romney is too spent. “In a sense he’s the best candidate in terms of that he looks like a candidate, he’s educated like a candidate, but just watching him on social issues and stuff move back and forth, I think he’s kind of spent,” Davis said, adding, “That’s just my judgment; I know a lot of people like him.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012gopprimary; palin; pimpromney; rino; rinosantipalin; rmsp; romney; romneyantipalin; romneybotantipalin; sarahpalin; tomdavis; waronsarah
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1 posted on 10/06/2009 4:22:14 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

Palin has my vote.


2 posted on 10/06/2009 4:24:39 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: rabscuttle385
But former Republican Rep. Tom Davis, who used to run the House Republican campaign operation,

That explains a lot.

*cough* 256-177 *cough*

3 posted on 10/06/2009 4:25:13 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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To: rabscuttle385

First of all, who the hell is Tom Davis..secondly, I can give a rats behind what he thinks. Just another RINO looking to “moderate” the GOP


4 posted on 10/06/2009 4:25:25 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: rabscuttle385

By the logic of the RINOs, Reagan should never been nominated. Nor Obama. Nor FDR. None of them were centrist moderates. Now is no time for preverving the status quo, which is all centrist moderates ever do. They don’t have the brains or the convictions to do anything else.


5 posted on 10/06/2009 4:26:28 PM PDT by sourcery (Those whom the gods would destroy they first make socialist...)
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To: rabscuttle385

Tom Davis is upset that Va conservatives picked Gilmore over him in the 2008 Senate race. Too bad. Conservatives should have let Davis get the nod so he would have been smacked down by Mark Warner. Tom Davis is looking at challenging Jim Webb in 2012.


6 posted on 10/06/2009 4:27:52 PM PDT by yongin
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To: rabscuttle385

She’s better off leaving the OP(formerly the GOP) if she has any chance of advancing he Conservative cause.


7 posted on 10/06/2009 4:27:58 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: rabscuttle385

Palin. Palin. Palin.

Anything else is just a RINO


8 posted on 10/06/2009 4:28:12 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: rabscuttle385

And why is Palin divisive? Because to so many potential candidates she is a †hreat. The actual person is nothing like the caricature drawn of her by her
“friends” and enemies. If the country is in bad shap as it was in 1979, for instance, her negatives would soon become positives. I can’t imagine a more “anti-Obama” than she.


9 posted on 10/06/2009 4:28:55 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE HOMO!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

A RINO from Northern Virginia, infamous for the hearings on steriod use in professional baseball. He is a weenie. He decided not to run in 2008 and the seat went to another weenie, Gerry Connelly - formerly the Chairman of the BOS of Fairfax County, VA. He is a major weenie and the 2 of them are friends.


10 posted on 10/06/2009 4:28:59 PM PDT by Cathy
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To: rabscuttle385
Yep, Palin is "too divisive."
That's why thousands show up at her speeches and log onto her Facebook page. And why her book is going to be a best-seller.
Tom Davis is your typical beltway Republican loser.
11 posted on 10/06/2009 4:30:12 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (90% of the fedgov is unconstitutional. The other 10% besides the military doesnt know what it's doin)
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To: GeronL

I plan on putting a Palin sticker (removable) on my truck in another year or two.


12 posted on 10/06/2009 4:30:25 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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To: rabscuttle385

I would like to ask this guy face to face to explain to me why Palin is devisive.I bet it would be a typical rino answer.


13 posted on 10/06/2009 4:32:12 PM PDT by imahawk (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Sure sounds like the scenario I’ve predicted is playing out nicely.

As always the “moderates” are lying bottom feeding scum who will happily hand a seat to the democrats if they think they can use fear to put it in RINO hands in the future.


14 posted on 10/06/2009 4:33:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Republicants like this fool are the divisive ones.


15 posted on 10/06/2009 4:33:14 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby (To understan' the livin' you got to commune wit' da dead.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Hunter/DeMint 2012


16 posted on 10/06/2009 4:33:33 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: rabscuttle385

He clearly doesn’t understand his own party. The GOP has always nominated a candidate that has national campaign experience. As much fun as it is to talk about candidates like Thune and Kasich, the fact is, they don’t stand a chance at winning the nomination.

Our nominee will come from one who has already been tested and involved in a national campaign, whether primary or general. Right now, it will be one of the 3: Huck, Palin or Romney.

And if all goes right, Palin will emerge as the winner.


17 posted on 10/06/2009 4:34:02 PM PDT by nomoremods
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To: imahawk

Kinda like Tinky Winky Graham complaining about voters sending “confrontational” representatives to Washington.


18 posted on 10/06/2009 4:34:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Tom Davis ran the NRCC from 2000 to 2004. He did a good job as NRCC chair. The GOP gained seats under his leadership. Davis planned on running for the Senate in 2008. Davis’s wife served as a VA state senator. Davis wanted to pass his US House to his wife. Davis’s wife in her re-election bid, campaigned to the Left of her Dem opponent. Davis’s wife supported gay marriage and gun control! CNN fawned over her as a good Republican. Davis’s wife lose her Va state senate seat in 2007. Tom Davis failed to win the GOP nomination for the 2008 Senate race. Since being out of politics, Tom Davis has morphed into an Uber RINO.


19 posted on 10/06/2009 4:35:46 PM PDT by yongin
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To: cripplecreek; imahawk
Kinda like Tinky Winky Graham complaining about voters sending “confrontational” representatives to Washington.

That's what happens when the lap dog and its master Don Juan are separated for too long.


20 posted on 10/06/2009 4:37:39 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Kick corrupt Democrats *AND* Republicans out of office in 2010!)
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To: rabscuttle385
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21 posted on 10/06/2009 4:38:39 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cripplecreek

LOL!


22 posted on 10/06/2009 4:39:50 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Kick corrupt Democrats *AND* Republicans out of office in 2010!)
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To: rabscuttle385

My wife is an extremely easy-going person who dislikes very few people. But she makes a big exception for Tom Davis.

Some years ago as head of a community organization in Northern Virginia, she and a few others had a meeting with Mr. Davis. To put it mildly, she came away with a very bad impression of the “gentleman.” She described him as arrogant, impolite, and dismissive of others who hold a different opinion, among his finer qualities. To this day the very mention of his name raises her blood pressure.


23 posted on 10/06/2009 4:41:03 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: rabscuttle385

Tom Davis, who’s that? Never heard of him until now. Just another nobody who knows that if he trashes Palin he’ll get media attention.


24 posted on 10/06/2009 4:44:16 PM PDT by euram
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To: GeronL

I do not get the Palin cheerleading going on at this board. I guess I like that she is a bona fide conservative. I guess I like the excitement she created in the election.

However, has she not rendered herself unelectable by giving up the governorship? I understand the argument that she was unfairly treated and harassed, but wasn’t that effectively political suicide?


25 posted on 10/06/2009 4:44:58 PM PDT by VC42
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To: VC42

Actually, the argument isn’t that she was ‘unfairly treated and harassed’ but that the treatment and harassment was making her incapable of doing the job she was hired to do and costing the state money by taking up too much of her time.


26 posted on 10/06/2009 4:46:10 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: rabscuttle385

At this point, with all the RINO attacks on Palin, I hope she runs as a 3rd party.


27 posted on 10/06/2009 4:48:38 PM PDT by nhwingut (The media's love affair with Obama reminds me of a dog humping a telephone pole.)
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To: nomoremods

W didn’t have any natl campaign experience when he ran.

Although maybe one could say being the son of and having the same name as the former Presidet sort of obviated that.

I agree your 3 are the top of the list, and I think Huckabee is Palin’s biggest threat as he draws from the same evangelical base and splits the vote opening things up for Romney. In that regard I wonder if Palin’s choice of Lynn Vincent who writes for WORLD magazine wasn’t some early thing to pay attention to.

And being the fmr head of the GOP House camapign isn’t exactly an asset these days. It’s like being the manager of the Mets the past few years.

That said, Davis was probably more bearish on Romney than Palin. He said of her that she probably too divisive, not a good thing, but not all that bad either. Besides, all Presidents are divisive. It’s just the nature of politics. He said Romney is spent and directly mentioned his flip-flopping.


28 posted on 10/06/2009 4:50:10 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: rabscuttle385

DAMN


29 posted on 10/06/2009 4:51:42 PM PDT by imahawk (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Man50D

But the fact is that a 3rd party has no chance of wining anything.

You can really only hope to take it over from within, like how Reagan did from the Eastern wing.


30 posted on 10/06/2009 4:51:55 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: jeltz25

True about W. Thanks for pointing that out. He’s always the anomaly when I try to make a salient point about our primaries. :)


31 posted on 10/06/2009 4:51:55 PM PDT by nomoremods
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To: RobbyS

“And why is Palin divisive?”

The RINOs are worried that her anti-corruption stance will take their sorry, slimy asses down too, regardless of their party affiliation.


32 posted on 10/06/2009 4:52:33 PM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: VC42

How many politicians have left their jobs for a run at another job? Half of Obama’s Cabinet?

It’s meaningless. It is only an issue because of the left media.


33 posted on 10/06/2009 4:53:41 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: rabscuttle385
We stood by and let the RINO's and the Libs pick our last candidate (McCain't), and that was a disaster.

Don't let libs and RINO's tell you who to vote for...listen and learn for yourself, and you decide.


34 posted on 10/06/2009 4:55:36 PM PDT by FrankR (To Stimulus recipients: You are only enslaved to the extent of charity that you receive.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Did someone say Sarah?


35 posted on 10/06/2009 4:55:56 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (Freedom Watch: fight for freedom with everything you have.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Since this was about his list and they aren’t mentioned in the snips, here they are:

John Thune — South Dakota Senator

John Kasich — former Ohio Congressman, currently running for governor

Michael Bloomberg — New York City Mayor and businessman


36 posted on 10/06/2009 4:59:21 PM PDT by deport
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To: mnehring

I wish Obozo would follow Sarah’s lead and step down. Hell, I’ll even take the blame for harassing him out of office.

Its not like he’s doing anything with it anyway.


37 posted on 10/06/2009 4:59:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Palin 2012

We need her to win in 2012, anyone else will not get the votes we need!

38 posted on 10/06/2009 5:09:42 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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To: Parley Baer

Palin is divisive like Obama is divisive and like Reagan was divisive. Sure Palin is divisive. Thom Davis is all but useless.


39 posted on 10/06/2009 5:11:24 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find! - I am Joe Wilson.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Gee, Tom, if you are so damned sure what kind of candidate will unite The Stup....I mean The Republican Party, why don't you run your own self?

Oh, yeah. Because noboby but your wife and your dog would vote for you.

40 posted on 10/06/2009 5:12:30 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: rabscuttle385

Davis is a former congressman because he was about to lose to a Democrat so he chickened out. His wife was an extremely liberal RINO state senator who lost her reelection bid because conservatives couldn’t trust her.

Davis was in charge of Republican House elections in 2006 and we got a Democrat blowout and lost the majority. He is not one I would put much confidence in.


41 posted on 10/06/2009 5:21:49 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: rabscuttle385
Romney is too spent. “In a sense he’s the best candidate in terms of that he looks like a candidate, he’s educated like a candidate, but just watching him on social issues and stuff move back and forth, I think he’s kind of spent,” Davis said, adding, “That’s just my judgment; I know a lot of people like him.”

Romney will almost certainly be the nominee (its his "turn"), but this is one good reason why he won't beat Obama.

42 posted on 10/06/2009 5:25:25 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("If you cannot pick it up and run with it, you don't really own it." -- Robert Heinlein)
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bad link above, try this: Palin 2012 shirt
Palin 2012 "
43 posted on 10/06/2009 5:40:20 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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To: pissant
Hunter/DeMint 2012

I like both. I like Palin, too. But I think that she can do more for the country working with these two and others to build a Reaganesque 'small government', non-intrusive coalition.

44 posted on 10/06/2009 5:46:39 PM PDT by meyer (Do not go gentle into that good night - Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: nomoremods

But W wasn’t exactly an unknown either. It wasn’t like he was Rick Perry runing for President/ Americans had already elected a guy named George Bush president and were used to it. He had his father’s entire campaign and political team and all his connections. He’d also worked on his father’s camapigns including as head of evangelical outreach and knew all the right people across the country. He was the chosen one by the national party that everyone got behind and supported pretty much from the beginning, and he had a phenomenal fund-raising ability and network.

We’d had 8 yrs of Clinton, absolutely needed to win no excuses and he was the guy that everyone rallied behind from the start, and in 1999 there really weren’t any other Republicans who had a national profile or anything. Newt, maybe but he was finished. Look at who elese ran. Liz Dole, Quayle, Forbes, Bauer, Keyes, Smith, Hatch, not an impressive field outside of McCain who pretty much solidified the anti-Bush vote. Even McCain was fairly unknown at that point until themedia built him up to no end in their attempt to stop Bush.

He in no way compares to someone like a Pawlenty or Daniels who would be coming from nowhere.

Also, that whole come in 2nd get in next time thing I think is overblown. Reagan did come in 2nd although it was a virtual tie, much closer than McCain-Romney last year. He was already the conservative leader BEFORE he ran against Ford, was 8 yrs as Gov of CA, by 1980 he’d been on the natl scene for 16 yrs. Bush in 88 was Reagan’s VP, him being 2nd in 80 had nothing to do with him winning. Dole in 96 was the Senate leader and once Powell demurred was pretty much the only guy left besides Buchanan who was never going to be the nominee. Again, him finishing 2nd in 88 wasn’t a big role. And McCain last yr was the nominee but was never some unbeatable frontrunner and in many respects completely lucked in to the nomination after totally impolding in 2007.

Besides, other than Reagan, are Bush,Dole and McCain an all star lineup of nominees? Were they really the best we could do?

When you think abuot some of the guys who’ve been nominated for President it’s amazing how lame most of them are. Gore, Kerry, Dole, Dukakis, Mondale, McCain, Bush41, McGovern, Humphrey, etc...


45 posted on 10/06/2009 5:51:58 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: oldbill

I guess next the Journal will be quoting Obama on how to lock down an Olympic bid.


46 posted on 10/06/2009 5:52:45 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: Canedawg

RINO corruption is, unfortunately, seldom slimy. It is the kind of corruption associated with 18th Century lords, where the corruption is heavily covered by the sent of French perfume.


47 posted on 10/06/2009 5:53:03 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE HOMO!)
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To: VC42
I dont think she will run, shes going about her life now....What the GOP needs now is a smooth talker...maybe a David Petraeus http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/002317.php
48 posted on 10/06/2009 5:53:38 PM PDT by forYourChildrenVote4Bush
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush

She’s running.

Palin votes in my house !


49 posted on 10/06/2009 5:58:27 PM PDT by Reagan69 (The only thing SHOVEL-READY since BO's stimulus has been MICHAEL JACKSON (tammy bruce))
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To: jeltz25

Agree about “next in line” meme. That’s why I was careful when I said we tend to nominate someone who has proven himself/herself in a national campaign; that could mean a recently previous one or one from 2 election cycles ago. And we tend to nominate the one who has worked the hardest for the party - the one who has endeared himself to the party insiders.

Hopefully, this time around, we nominate the one who has endeared HERSELF to the people, not the party. :)


50 posted on 10/06/2009 6:23:03 PM PDT by nomoremods
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