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US 'to cut immigrant detention' (could be kept in hotels and nursing homes)
BBC News ^ | Oct. 6, 2009

Posted on 10/06/2009 5:22:25 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

US officials are expected to announce plans that would allow illegal immigrants not considered a threat to be taken out of jails, reports say.

The new policy would list immigrants according to the risk they may pose, the Wall Street Journal reports.

Detainees who are not criminals could be kept in hotels and nursing homes, according to leaks of the plans.

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano is expected to give details of the plans later.

Her department is hoping to cut the costs of detaining immigrants, which stood at almost $2bn (£1.3bn) in 2008.

It says alternatives like the hotels and nursing homes would cost about $14 a day, compared to about $100 a day for detention.

Health needs

Each year some 380,000 illegal immigrants are detained in US jails alongside regular prisoners, ahead of deportation.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; homelandinsecurity; immigrantlist; immigration; invasion; squatters; wakeupamerica; yougettopay

1 posted on 10/06/2009 5:22:25 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This is mad.


2 posted on 10/06/2009 5:23:34 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Woodrow Wilson should have been waterboarded.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Why not deport them NOW?

I’ve read where some of our veterans are without jobs and homes. How is it that we can take care of these illegals, yet not our former military people?


3 posted on 10/06/2009 5:25:06 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: Nowhere Man

Wow. Swim the Rio Grande, stay in a hotel courtesy of Napolitano - all bills paid vacation. There are 25 million residents in Mexico City. Imagine how many want a vacation in the USA.


4 posted on 10/06/2009 5:26:18 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Free ThinkerNY
...where they could prey on innocents and elderly
5 posted on 10/06/2009 5:26:18 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano is expected to give details of the plans later.

Her department is hoping to cut the costs of detaining immigrants, which stood at almost $2bn (£1.3bn) in 2008.

Send them home you G D M F _itch! Somebody get this woman some medical help. Nobody in their right mint would pick up the bill for hotel fees for these illegals. And there's no reason whatsoever to house them in nursing homes.

Deport them to the nation of their origon, and let their homeland sort it out from there.

6 posted on 10/06/2009 5:26:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Napolitano is nuts. I certainly don't want to put my family at risk on a trip by staying at a hotel that might have illegal aliens awaiting deportation in it.

She's gotta' do better than this ~ maybe keep them in her basement. They can mow her grass and wash her dishes while they wait.

And nursing homes? Was Napolitano the Obamista who wrote up the stuff about punishing patients? You know the ones ~ you miss paying your "fee" they send you to jail for a year.

Hey, now we know why she's doing this ~ it's to open up cell space for misbehaving Obamacare patients.

When these nutballs are finally out of office let's make sure they get detained in some sort of facility that will give the rest of us a warm and fuzzy feeling that they are permanently out of our hair.

7 posted on 10/06/2009 5:27:00 PM PDT by muawiyah (qui)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Detainees who are not criminals could be kept in hotels and nursing homes”

Well, I know where to get my drugs now.
signed, Michael Jackson

oh, wait. I’m dead. Never mind.


8 posted on 10/06/2009 5:27:38 PM PDT by dynachrome (I am Jim Thompson!)
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To: dynachrome

I’ve got some room in the freezer.


9 posted on 10/06/2009 5:28:45 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I personally would like to put in a request, way in advance, for a room at the Ritz. Something truly Barj al-Arab. There will be lines.


10 posted on 10/06/2009 5:30:10 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: dynachrome

Now THAT’S funny! Macabre, but funny!


11 posted on 10/06/2009 5:30:30 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Chicago, Chicago, that Toddlin' Town without an Olympics...la de da......Shell and O strike out!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

hotels and nursing homes costing $14 a day???


12 posted on 10/06/2009 5:30:58 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The President has borrowed more money to spend to less effect than anybody on the planet. " Steyn)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Not in my hotel!


13 posted on 10/06/2009 5:31:36 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: Free ThinkerNY

How about tents, a cot and MRE’s. If it’s good enough for our troops who lay their life on a line? This first class stuff needs to stop ASAP!!!!!


14 posted on 10/06/2009 5:31:41 PM PDT by lula ( If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY


15 posted on 10/06/2009 5:32:54 PM PDT by Viking2002
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Give them some stimulus money to buy new homes and cars.


16 posted on 10/06/2009 5:33:30 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Maybe we could put them up a this Hotel in New York.
17 posted on 10/06/2009 5:34:21 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Where are are we going and how did I get in this hand basket?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Send them to Joe Arapaio He knows what to do with them.


18 posted on 10/06/2009 5:34:51 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It’s this sort of news article that we all should know will never be reported in the US MSM, or if it is reported within our borders will be on PBS broadcasting BBC that we need to flag, and forward to family, friends, and associates on our individual mailing lists.

I’m going to send this one to about 23 individuals I have on my list that I know will appreciate this information right now.


19 posted on 10/06/2009 5:35:31 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Oh, I know - I know!! Maybe Janet could send each detainee to live with a family. That way there would be no cost to the government at all.

I wonder where that $14 figure came from.


20 posted on 10/06/2009 5:41:31 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: Free ThinkerNY; AuntB

WTF?


21 posted on 10/06/2009 5:43:20 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Nowhere Man

Are you an adult?

The purpose of all bureaucracies is to grow the problem. Make it worse.

Bureaucracies can not grow and prosper with out problems.

Worse......is....good.

Worse means bigger budgets, staff, offices, and ensured employment with full benefits until retirement. Retirement pay depends upon civil service rank. High rank can not be assured in small departments. Big departments handling big problems increases the chance of getting a high staff position.

You need to grow up and look at the incentives, from their point of view. Those that govern us.


22 posted on 10/06/2009 5:57:25 PM PDT by Leisler (It's going to be a hard, long winter)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I guess there will be plenty of room in the nuring homes if the cuts in medicare go through.


23 posted on 10/06/2009 6:01:30 PM PDT by virgil
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To: NonValueAdded
hotels and nursing homes costing $14 a day???

Really! It'll cost more than that to feed them at the McDonald's across the street from the hotel.

24 posted on 10/06/2009 6:04:25 PM PDT by relee ('Till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away)
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To: muawiyah

“When these nutballs are finally out of office let’s make sure they get detained in some sort of facility that will give the rest of us a warm and fuzzy feeling that they are permanently out of our hair.”

I have hard that SOYLENT Corporation has such a facility.

Less reliable sources claim ALPO also has a similar facility.

;-)


25 posted on 10/06/2009 6:12:43 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Sheer insanity. How STUPID can this woman and her cohorts be?

They just want these Dem voters to melt back into the population.

Nursing homes??? I don’t want these people anywhere my Mom or her friends at her residence? And hotels for $14 a night? You probably can’t find a flophouse anywhere in the country for that price.

How about the unused cells at Guantanomo? That would at least get most of them closer to home to start with.


26 posted on 10/06/2009 6:13:11 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Joann37

EXCELLANT POINT!!!!

Veterans have to wait, sometimes months for vouchers to get a place to live.


27 posted on 10/06/2009 6:13:56 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: pallis

...stimulus money for new homes and cars. I like your thinking. Can we toss in in-state tuition? How about some free medical care, too?


28 posted on 10/06/2009 6:15:38 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Free ThinkerNY

put’em on a barge headed south...depart via inner tube when near the country of orgin...


29 posted on 10/06/2009 6:17:35 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: Free ThinkerNY; Grammy

Worked really great with the Katrina evacuees.


30 posted on 10/06/2009 6:22:42 PM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: rockinqsranch

It’s in today’s on-line Washington Post. I already made appropriately negative comments and laughed at the ignorance of the Obamistas in our midst.


31 posted on 10/06/2009 6:25:31 PM PDT by muawiyah (qui)
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To: virgil

They start putting these young bucks in the nursing homes there’ll be a lot of room as well as a cut in Medicare costs as the patients get robbed and murdered.


32 posted on 10/06/2009 6:26:53 PM PDT by muawiyah (qui)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

A quickj march to tthe border and a boot in the pants would prevent the need for

nursing homes that American seniors could be living in...

and hotels that American homeless could be living in...


33 posted on 10/06/2009 6:32:31 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Free ThinkerNY; Nachum
It says alternatives like the hotels and nursing homes would cost about $14 a day, compared to about $100 a day for detention.

Not to worry, democrats are defunding nursing homes, so illegals will be either put in hotels or on the streets of America with law-abiding, tax-paying citizens..

Nursing homes struggling across the state, many already in bankruptcy

Wisconsin is now ranked the worst in the country for reimbursing the cost of medical care to nursing homes and other elderly care givers. Administrators say that's why 17 percent of nursing homes in Wisconsin are currently going into bankruptcy -- and why many more may follow.

Nursinghomes face financial crisis

"What we're looking at is the start of what's going to be a real financial crisis in the nursing home industry," says Bortz Health Care Nursing Home administrator, Mark Crane.

Feds limit Arizona sheriff's immigration powers

Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, whose office faces racial profiling allegations over crime and immigration sweeps in some heavily Latino areas of metro Phoenix, said officials from Washington won't let him renew a deal that let his deputies make federal immigration arrests.

"Let them all go brag that they took away the sheriff's authority. Let them all do that. That doesn't bother me. I don't have an ego. I will continue doing the same thing," the Republican sheriff said, noting he can still enforce state immigration laws. "What has changed, other than the politics and the perception emanating from Washington?"

34 posted on 10/06/2009 6:37:53 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Cool!

I'm living in a '95 RV.

About to relinquish my citizenship.

35 posted on 10/06/2009 6:40:09 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: MamaDearest

I remember when my grandmother’s friends, one at a time were sent off to the state hospital when they showed signs of dementia. It was always considered a tragedy. My grandmother lived in New Jersey, so it was Ancora, a state hospital that was not much more than a warehouse for the mentally deficient. I’m afraid that is where we are headed, again. I remember hearing the sadness in my grandmother’s voice as she described the prison like dress that they made the patients wear.


36 posted on 10/06/2009 7:14:42 PM PDT by Eva (Obama bin Lyin)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“...Can we toss in in-state tuition? How about some free medical care, too?”

Absolutely, only don’t scrounge. Give illegals enough to go to better schools than the rest of us peons go to. Send them to Ivy league schools where they can learn to become liberal politicians. Let them have the Congressional medical plan. Why should the American taxpayers ever be free of paying for cheap, subsidized labor?


37 posted on 10/06/2009 8:58:22 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Free ThinkerNY


"More grapes, senorita?"
38 posted on 10/06/2009 9:02:23 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: pallis

Most excellent plan. Let’s send them to Harvard to earn law degrees. Maybe the illegals can edit the Harvard Law Review. After all, it worked out real well the last time.


39 posted on 10/06/2009 10:21:09 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Free ThinkerNY

There are soooo many good posts on this thread!

14 bucks for a hotel? Whats wrong with MREs ( well they are more expensive than spam sandwich.)


40 posted on 10/06/2009 10:36:31 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: pissant

The world has gone mad. I got out of the hospital a few days ago and lay here listening to it all. Boggles the mind, breaks the soul.

On a better note, yesterday in the wee hours of the morning on Rick Roberts radio show he had on Congressman Duncan D. Hunter. He sounded good, real good.


41 posted on 10/07/2009 10:41:12 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB

Welcome back AuntB. Hope your recovery is swift and you are out running marathons before long!!

Yes, Duncan D sounds an awful lot like Duncan L.


42 posted on 10/07/2009 10:43:12 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: DoughtyOne; All

“Send them home you G D M F _itch! “

Yep!

This is so much crappolla I can hardly stomach it. I’m in the freakin’ twilight zone! There are dozens of ‘immigrant detention centers’...they are NOT prisons! And they have better medical care, etc. than our veterans get! In fact I just got out of the hospital, and these illegal squaters get better medical care than I got, I promise you!

These centers are constantly being improved, built because they have LOBBYISTS and the people running them contribute BIG to our pandering politicians...like Janet Nappin’atthe alamo! Here’s some google headlines:

US to improve immigration detention facilities
JURIST -3 hours
In July, a report [text, PDF] by the National Immigration Law Center [advocacy website] and two other groups found that US detention centers for illegal ...

Outlines Emerge for Immigration Detention Overhaul San Francisco Chronicle

ICE Promises Detention Reforms, CCA Announces New Detention Center Huffington Post (blog)


43 posted on 10/07/2009 10:58:19 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: Venturer

“Send them to Joe Arapaio He knows what to do with them.”

And the feds are doing all they can to stop him.

Today.....Feds strip Arpaio of immigration authority
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2356800/posts


44 posted on 10/07/2009 11:05:27 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: pissant

Thank you, pissant. From my observations, we do not need ‘insurance reform’...we have a healthcare shortage! I’m getting better care home alone than I got in the hospital and I think I’ll pay my bill accordingly...:<) I finally said I was leaving whether they liked it or not.

But just as long as the illegal aliens get the proper care...what a load!


45 posted on 10/07/2009 11:08:40 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: virgil; janetgreen; blackie; Jeff Head; All

“I guess there will be plenty of room in the nuring homes if the cuts in medicare go through.”

I suppose that’s where the feds are finding the room in nursing homes for illegal aliens...they’re cutting funds to them for US citizens!

Nursing homes face financial crisis
UpNorthLive.com - Melissa Smith - Oct 6, 2009
“An 8% cut now puts a cut in Medicare because the nursing home industry is able to make money on their Medicare reimbursement and the money they make for ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct2=us%2F0_0_s_0_0_t&usg=AFQjCNF2WII3K4y8WbY2_thnDykbvevOjQ&cid=1445326138&ei=KNrMSpjoLoLylQSNp_CtAg&rt=SEARCH&vm=STANDARD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.upnorthlive.com%2Fnews%2Fstory.aspx%3Fid%3D359346

Waves of new fund cuts imperil US nursing homes The Associated Press
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct2=us%2F0_0_s_0_2_aa&usg=AFQjCNGa8HxH8jNTuzuThPl5wVbe7ZVw0w&cid=1445326138&ei=KNrMSpjoLoLylQSNp_CtAg&rt=SEARCH&vm=STANDARD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fhostednews%2Fap%2Farticle%2FALeqM5gdFr0_tew5uy9YlV2YVLN1mDyFSwD9B4EVEG0


46 posted on 10/07/2009 11:15:52 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB

The kool-aid drinking libtards just can’t wait for ØbamaCare to be law...boggles the mind!

Øbama is taking this country to the brink, we’ll be a third world country before you know it!

Be Ever Vigilant!


47 posted on 10/07/2009 11:30:16 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: blackie

“Øbama is taking this country to the brink, we’ll be a third world country before you know it!”

That’s the plan!


48 posted on 10/07/2009 11:33:59 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB

Yep, if Americans don’t wake up, it will all be gone, in a split second.


49 posted on 10/07/2009 11:47:28 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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