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Flying the Union Skies--Labor tries an end run around the law to organize Delta.
The Wall Street Journal ^ | October 7, 2009 | Editorial

Posted on 10/07/2009 10:07:59 AM PDT by jazusamo

No trucks from Mexico, no new trade agreements, a sweet deal for the United Auto Workers at GM and Chrysler, tariffs on Chinese tires, and now Big Labor has another demand of the Obama Administration: Overturn 75 years of labor policy to sandbag Delta Airlines and unionize transportation workers. Will it get that too?

The latest looming political favor features the National Mediation Board, the federal agency established in 1934 under the Railway Labor Act to oversee labor relations in the air and rail industries. A department of the AFL-CIO last month sent a letter demanding that the board tear up longstanding rules requiring that a majority of all airline or rail workers vote in favor of union representation to win union certification.

The AFL-CIO instead wants a "minority rule," requiring only a majority of the employees who actually vote. Under current rules, if an airline has 10,000 nonunion flight attendants, 5,001 must vote yes to unionize. Under the union proposal if only 2,000 of 10,000 vote, and 1,001 vote yes, all 10,000 become subject to unionization.

The timing here is nakedly opportunistic. Two of Delta's unions—the Association of Flight Attendants and the International Association of Machinists—have elections pending in front of the Mediation Board as a result of last year's Delta acquisition of Northwest Airlines. Northwest was largely unionized but Delta wasn't. The Delta flight attendants tried to unionize last year but lost that election, and now the AFL-CIO wants the White House to stack the deck in their favor. Beyond Delta, the new rules would make it easier to unionize JetBlue, Continental, FedEx and short-line railroads, among others.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: aflcio; agenda; corruption; delta; democrats; obama; unioncorruption; unionthuggery

1 posted on 10/07/2009 10:08:00 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: All
Please bump the Freepathon and donate if you haven’t done so!

2 posted on 10/07/2009 10:09:32 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Unions make me physically ill.


3 posted on 10/07/2009 10:10:14 AM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: jazusamo

That could put Delta right out of business.


4 posted on 10/07/2009 10:11:53 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: TChris

Yes, the further their popularity falls with workers the more money they funnel to RATS to skirt and change labor laws in their favor.


5 posted on 10/07/2009 10:12:42 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: GeronL

I believe you’re right.


6 posted on 10/07/2009 10:14:47 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

So they want the government to force Delta to become unionized?


7 posted on 10/07/2009 10:15:24 AM PDT by wastedyears (If I don't have a right to play defense, then I'll go on offense. - FReeper Enterprise)
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To: GeronL
That could put Delta right out of business.

What do you think, short about 5000 shares?

8 posted on 10/07/2009 10:16:23 AM PDT by Harley (Life is Tough, But It's a Lot Tougher When You're a Liberal. Stop Global Whining Now.)
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To: jazusamo; Harley

unless they get a bailout of course


9 posted on 10/07/2009 10:17:48 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: wastedyears

That’s about what it amounts to. If the Mediation Board changes the policy there will be a lawsuit for sure.


10 posted on 10/07/2009 10:18:43 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Unions are nothing but DNC fundraisers, donors and campaign workers. They should be viewed as such by the government.


11 posted on 10/07/2009 10:23:35 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America! We're spending our grandchildren's inheritance!)
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To: TChris

How about, anyone who wants to join the Union, joins and gets’ to pay their dues, and all those that don’t want to join the Union, get the New Union Members to pay their dues too.


12 posted on 10/07/2009 10:25:05 AM PDT by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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To: Harley

That was my first thought as well.

It might seem opportunistic, but we need to make money somehow, in order to pay for the Delta bailout and massive unemployment of airline workers that would ensue...


13 posted on 10/07/2009 10:25:18 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: jazusamo

Why would they be forced to unionize? What authority does the government have to do it?


14 posted on 10/07/2009 10:32:55 AM PDT by wastedyears (If I don't have a right to play defense, then I'll go on offense. - FReeper Enterprise)
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To: wastedyears

They would not actually be forced to unionize, there would have to be a vote. But the vote would only have to be a simple majority of those that voted instead of a simple majority of all workers.


15 posted on 10/07/2009 10:36:02 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Make up the rules to fit the situation.


16 posted on 10/07/2009 10:47:56 AM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: jazusamo

great. just look what they did for Northworst.


17 posted on 10/07/2009 10:50:03 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: jazusamo

Isn’t that known as the Acorn rule?


18 posted on 10/07/2009 10:51:10 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: jazusamo

Is it employees inside Delta, or somebody on the outside?


19 posted on 10/07/2009 10:55:43 AM PDT by wastedyears (If I don't have a right to play defense, then I'll go on offense. - FReeper Enterprise)
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To: Harley
"That could put Delta right out of business."

What do you think, short about 5000 shares?

Forget about stocks. I am finally getting close to Silver Medallion status. I always wanted to see the inside of the Delta Sky Club.

20 posted on 10/07/2009 11:32:00 AM PDT by sportutegrl (If liberals could do math, they would be conservatives.)
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To: sportutegrl

You’ve got to fly 125,000 MQMs to get free Crown Room, er, Sky Club membership (that’s what it takes to make the new “Diamond Level”). Or you could cash in 60,000 SkyMiles(TM).


21 posted on 10/07/2009 1:25:45 PM PDT by nd76
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To: nd76

Well, I’m out, I may have Silver level before this year is out (25K total) with my holiday trips.


22 posted on 10/07/2009 1:29:51 PM PDT by sportutegrl (If liberals could do math, they would be conservatives.)
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To: sniper63

A better idea is, if you want to be in a union, become employed by a shop that is already unionized.


23 posted on 10/07/2009 1:35:45 PM PDT by FreeperinRATcage (I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for every thing I do. - R. A. Heinlein)
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To: sniper63

Actually, you have it bass-ackards. In many union shops, even if you are NOT a union member, they still take your monthly union dues out of your paycheck and you have to beg for your “dues” to be returned!

My daughter works for Kroger’s, but did not want to join the union. Even though she is NOT a union member, the store says that the Union is the business unit that they are required to work with and therefore the agreed upon union policies are set for all employees that are not management. So, every paycheck they take out the standard union dues and she has to request, in writing, from the store (with union boss approval) to have her “dues” returned.

If you miss the deadline for requesting, which has recently been changed to “...the payday following the posting date for your last payment.” Basically, if she misses a week where she doesn’t request a return of her dues, they automatically get to keep that week’s “dues!”

Unions are micro-Communistic organizations! Everyone works for the good of the union (whether it is good for your or not)!! Unions had purposes many years ago, now they are nothing more than political machines! And most are tightening a noose around their own collective necks by killing the Goose that Lays to golden eggs, because they want more eggs than the D@MN goose can produce!


24 posted on 10/07/2009 1:37:14 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (Hey Congress: Go Conservative or Go Home!)
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To: jazusamo

I live in the South and fly Delta all the time. In general, I like Delta and the service is usually pleasant and the atmosphere is good (the staff is not hostile or dragged out and tired, as it is on some other airlines).

I have Silver Medallion status, but unfortunately they have reduced a lot of their perks and the Sky Rooms are no longer as nice as they used to be. But still, I like it better than most other airlines I fly, and I hope this union stuff doesn’t destroy it.


25 posted on 10/07/2009 1:39:15 PM PDT by livius
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To: jazusamo
Don't do it, Delta. Whatever you have to do to stop it, do it.

Do you know who owns the Association of Flight Attendants? The CWA. Communications Workers of America. You know, telecom workers, phone cable installers, etc. What does the CWA know about the airline business? NOTHING. It's about numbers, that's it. Numbers and Democrat votes.

26 posted on 10/07/2009 1:47:31 PM PDT by ponygirl ("I can see the Olympic Stadium from my house!" - Barack Obama)
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To: livius

I hope so too. If the Board does change the rule it’ll probably be a fight if the union somehow does get a vote through with a win for them. Probably force a long court battle and even if Delta should win it it could be bad for them while it’s going on.


27 posted on 10/07/2009 1:51:49 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
even if Delta should win it it could be bad for them while it’s going on.

Yes, that's very true. Delta did a lot to pull itself out of the hole a few years ago, but obviously in the new Obama-union world, that doesn't matter. Maybe Bambi will nationalize all the airlines. We'll have Aeroflot Delta.

28 posted on 10/07/2009 1:56:21 PM PDT by livius
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To: ponygirl

You’re right, it’s about numbers and unions are doing their darndest to increase those numbers for more dollars to buy off more RAT politicians. It amounts to criminal acts in plain sight because the crooks can deny a quid pro quo.


29 posted on 10/07/2009 1:56:37 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

I’d better use my SkyMiles soon.


30 posted on 10/07/2009 3:04:05 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady
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To: jazusamo

No big deal. Plenty of room available for Delta’s airplanes in the Davis-Monthan AFB boneyard.


31 posted on 10/07/2009 3:18:35 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: sportutegrl

I am a PM, the Delta Sky Club is not that great.


32 posted on 10/07/2009 4:18:18 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: ExTxMarine
I beg to differ, in a right to work state or "open shop" environment (such as Krogers) they cannot force any union dues payment out of your paycheck.

The owners of Krogers are operating illegally.

33 posted on 10/07/2009 7:08:15 PM PDT by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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To: GeronL
Just like United they will run the business into the ground.
34 posted on 10/07/2009 8:19:58 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: jazusamo

So the union rounds up a couple hundred stooges and doesn’t invite anyone else to the vote and since all 200 vote for the union, the other 10,000 have to go along. I wouldn’t actually object to this rule if it were stipulated that at least 90% of those affected must vote or it doesn’t apply.


35 posted on 10/08/2009 1:21:42 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: sniper63

I was under the same impression, but she lives in a right to work state and the company told her that the union is considered the bargaining group for all NON-management personnel and they are bound by law to follow all the rules that the union sets forth.

I told her to look into it further, but she said she and the payroll lady had a deal - she filled out several of the “Dues Return Request” sheets and each payday the payroll clerk just dates one and puts it into the payroll stack (payroll clerk isn’t union either)!

More than one way to de-fur a feline!


36 posted on 10/08/2009 4:37:15 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Hey Congress: Go Conservative or Go Home!)
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To: ExTxMarine

I manage a manufacturing facility in a right to work state, we are about 50% union, only the members of the Union pay dues. If she never filled out an authorization card to have Union Dues taken out of her check, the company she is working for is operating illegally, tell her to get a lawyer.


37 posted on 10/08/2009 5:56:33 AM PDT by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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To: jazusamo
Even though Delta is headquartered in a right-to-work state, Federal law, specifically, The railway labor act (USC: Title 45 Chapter 8 ) is the rule. But hearing from a real lawyer on the Section 152 clause/paragraph 4 and 5 would be nice. This latest revision of the law seems to say that even if a union is voted in the contract/company/union can't make you join or be forced to pay dues directly from your paycheck. Is this right or have to courts taken a red pencil to this law or worse is this dead letter law that no lawyer would take a case on? Like agency fees. Even Delta on its company web site is not quite clear on this aspect of the law
38 posted on 10/10/2009 5:00:13 PM PDT by Pyrrhomaniax
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