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Bob Dole Bucks GOP, Says Obamacare Needed (A loser speaks in the same language as loser McCain)
newsmax ^ | 10/7/09

Posted on 10/08/2009 7:12:42 AM PDT by bestintxas

Former Republican presidential candidate Bob Dole says a top GOP leader asked him not to publicly support health care reform. But he's doing so anyway.

The former Kansas senator said Wednesday that health care reform is "one of the most important measures members of Congress will vote on in their lifetimes."

Dole opposes a government-run insurance option, saying it could put private insurers out of business. He expects something to pass by early 2010.

Dole spoke at a health care summit in Kansas City. He said afterward that some Republicans have asked him to stay mum including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.

The Kentucky senator's spokesman denied the claim. He said McConnell hasn't spoken with Dole recently and agrees that reform is needed.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bobdole; bobtroll; dole; freeviagra; healthcare; obama; obamacare; rino
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Thanks God we we were spared the disaster of Bob Dole as your President.
1 posted on 10/08/2009 7:12:42 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas
This is why you lost the election, Mr. Dull.
2 posted on 10/08/2009 7:13:22 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Ask not what the Kennedys can do for you, but what you can do for the Kennedys.)
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To: bestintxas

Free Viagra for Everyone!


3 posted on 10/08/2009 7:13:35 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: bestintxas

Bob you listening ???? Go to Hell.


4 posted on 10/08/2009 7:13:47 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: bestintxas

Bob and Jimmy need to check into the Old Politicians Home together.


5 posted on 10/08/2009 7:14:18 AM PDT by madison10
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To: bestintxas

Dole was always a bit RINO.

However, to be fair, it only says he supports “reform” which could mean anything...

Regardless, who cares about Dole at this point.


6 posted on 10/08/2009 7:14:33 AM PDT by RockinRight (9/12/09 - the day the sh*t hit the fan)
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To: bestintxas

Dob Bole speaks and no one cares. He just reinforced why I held my nose to vote for him POS RINO.


7 posted on 10/08/2009 7:14:33 AM PDT by stockpirate ("I came NOT to bring peace but a sword." - Jesus Christ)
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To: bestintxas
You mean old, old, old ,old, Bob dole is still alive??
8 posted on 10/08/2009 7:14:44 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: bestintxas

Jerks like this are the reason pelosi is emboldened and demanding the public option be put back in.


9 posted on 10/08/2009 7:14:56 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: bestintxas

I call Dole a LIAR
he is old and confused
not supporting Obamacare doesn’t mean not suppporting health care

It is sad when stupid people can’t grasp the difference

someone needs to explain the difference to idiots like Dole


10 posted on 10/08/2009 7:15:31 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: bestintxas
Another one who needs to belly up to the bar and grab a big frosty mug of STFU....he can bend elbows with the likes of McCain & Grahamnesty.
Lotta Pubbies in that bar, i'll tell ya.
11 posted on 10/08/2009 7:15:39 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Palin-Bachmann Overdrive 2012 !! :))
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To: bestintxas

What I am waiting to hear, is for the politicians to say “We need Obamacare, and we’ll join in on it like everyone else”. Then, and only then will I consider the worthiness of this plan on it’s merits.

But when a politican says “I refuse to join in on the same plan that I am forcing on the rest of America”, I refuse to join in too. I will never eat at a resturant where the cooks refuse to eat the food they prepare.


12 posted on 10/08/2009 7:16:50 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: bestintxas

Is Bob going to pay for it?


13 posted on 10/08/2009 7:17:46 AM PDT by listenhillary (A "cult of personality" arises when a leader uses mass media creating idealized/heroic public image)
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To: bestintxas

Dementia has set in.


14 posted on 10/08/2009 7:17:50 AM PDT by Dewey Revoltnow (People don't respect that which they don't earn.)
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To: RWGinger

Wait
I read the article which does NOT support the headline
Dole did NOT support obamacare, in fact he said it would not work.

not sure why he pretended any GOPer asked him to not speak out for health care reform


15 posted on 10/08/2009 7:17:53 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: bestintxas

Bob Dole makes it clear why he is a loser.


16 posted on 10/08/2009 7:17:55 AM PDT by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: bestintxas

The money is flowing...when the RINO’s are out there in full force pushing his agenda you know their pockets are getting lined.


17 posted on 10/08/2009 7:17:55 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: RockinRight

Yep, parlays his war hero status into a RINO and expects everyone to salute “It’s his turn Bob Dole”.

America does not want Oba-Mao’s health care rationing.


18 posted on 10/08/2009 7:17:58 AM PDT by Tarpon (Oba-Mao is a reader, not a leader ...)
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To: Dewey Revoltnow

That or he’s been listening to his wife too much.


19 posted on 10/08/2009 7:18:15 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: bestintxas

Socialized medicine is necessary. I know it, you know it, and the American people know it.

Clinton was a pussy, Sincerely Dole.


20 posted on 10/08/2009 7:19:28 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: bestintxas

What a RINO idiot and slimy pitchman for Viagra.


21 posted on 10/08/2009 7:20:07 AM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's health care?)
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To: bestintxas
Who DOESN'T believe we need health care reform in this country? It's too expensive for individuals and businesses and needs a measured, incentive induced private sector overhaul. But it should be done through tax break incentives/seamless portable coverage plans/Health care Savings investment vehicles etc.

Dole said he didn't support any public option. What's wrong with that?

22 posted on 10/08/2009 7:20:36 AM PDT by MNSlim
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To: bestintxas

What a RINO idiot and slimy pitchman for Viagra.


23 posted on 10/08/2009 7:20:37 AM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's health care?)
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To: bestintxas

I thought everyone including republicans support healthcare reform with the argument being over what it consists of. Dole says he does not support a public option.

I think it’s decent Republican strategy to argue strongly for healthcare reform and at the same time strongly oppose specific features that are socialist or what have you.

It is not a decent Republican strategy to oppose any form of healthcare legislation.


24 posted on 10/08/2009 7:20:51 AM PDT by frposty (I'm a simpleton)
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To: bestintxas

Yes, we need health care reform. Medicare and Medicaid are bankrupting the country. The question is what is meant by health care reform.


25 posted on 10/08/2009 7:21:05 AM PDT by kabar
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To: RWGinger
I read the article which does NOT support the headline

Yes, I went to the site and the article does not mention anything indicating support for ObamaCare from the Senator. Are their any other articles revealing more about what he said?

26 posted on 10/08/2009 7:21:38 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: bestintxas

Doesn’t the article say that he supports reform but not a public option? if that is so then he does not support Obamacare. Seems like a misleading headline.


27 posted on 10/08/2009 7:21:42 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (Obamanos!)
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To: bestintxas

More proof that Reagan was an anomaly for the GOP.


28 posted on 10/08/2009 7:22:10 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: bestintxas

Newt Gingrich on Bob Dole: “Tax collector for the welfare state”


29 posted on 10/08/2009 7:22:11 AM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: frposty

There are three Republican bills supporting health care reform. I don’t understand this knee-jerk reaction to Dole’s statement.


30 posted on 10/08/2009 7:23:28 AM PDT by kabar
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To: bestintxas
He's not necessarily wrong, depending on the details of the reform he supports.

For example, getting the government completely out of the private health care industry would be "reform."

31 posted on 10/08/2009 7:24:14 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: bestintxas
We have had a lot of horrible little socialists masquarading as Republicans lately.
32 posted on 10/08/2009 7:25:19 AM PDT by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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To: RWGinger

Too many people won’t dispassionately read articles around here, because they’re too eager to rabidly foam at the mouth at any perceived provocation. This is troll heaven if you’re a liberal: Just throw up a provocative, anti-GOP, headline and watch the reflexive braying unfold. It’s like there’s some pleasure sensor that is activated in their brain every time they get to write down the acronym “RINO”.


33 posted on 10/08/2009 7:25:49 AM PDT by MNSlim
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To: bestintxas
What an information free article. In fact I might even say that I know less after reading it than I did before.

Bob Dole Bucks GOP, Says Obamacare Needed

Headline not supported by anything in the article.

Former Republican presidential candidate Bob Dole says a top GOP leader asked him not to publicly support health care reform. But he's doing so anyway.

Which top leader and what type of reform? I support reform too. I want individually purchased insurance to have the same tax treatment as insurance purchased through a company. Even if I pay every penny of my health insurance, if it is from a company sponsored plan I pay neither federal nor state income tax on that money. I don't even pay SS and Medicare tax on it. It's like that income never existed. That gives about a 45% price advantage just buying it through the company. Second, allow more high deductible plans. Third, allow people to buy across state lines so if my state wants to require homeopathic acupuncture (no needles actually used, just touch the needles to water and then dilute that ten trillion times), I don't want to have to buy a plan paying for it. There I support reform.

The former Kansas senator said Wednesday that health care reform is "one of the most important measures members of Congress will vote on in their lifetimes."

No argument there. This is a vote between freedom and eternal slavery to the government, with some GS-9 in Washington deciding whether I live or die. It is very important to kill that bill.

Dole opposes a government-run insurance option, saying it could put private insurers out of business.

But that is the heart and soul of Obamacare (which the headline said he supported). Remove that and any bill is just a hollow shell of its original takeover.

He expects something to pass by early 2010.

Expectation is not support. I expect the Bengals to lose to the Ravens. I'll still root for the Bengals.

Dole spoke at a health care summit in Kansas City. He said afterward that some Republicans have asked him to stay mum including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.

Some? List their names.

The Kentucky senator's spokesman denied the claim. He said McConnell hasn't spoken with Dole recently and agrees that reform is needed.

So, whether McConnell told Dole to STFU or not is a he said/he said, with neither side giving evidence or more details.

34 posted on 10/08/2009 7:27:14 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Rio: Gold / Madrid: Silver / Tokyo: Bronze / Obama: Lead weight.)
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To: bestintxas

He doesn’t want a public option.

Bob Dole is a good man but some demand thought control and that everyone agree with their ideas otherwise they are insulted.

No way to build a winnning team.


35 posted on 10/08/2009 7:27:40 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: kabar
Yes, we need health care reform

NO, we need reform of health care laws that are making health care too expensive. The government, as usual, has screwed things up. Tort Reform is desperately needed. States which have implemented Tort Reform have seen huge drops in malpractice premiums.

The states are paying huge amounts for Illegal (read Undocumented liberal press) Aliens cost huge amounts in the Hospitals. My wife, an ER nurse, sees dozens each day, all claiming they cannot pay. Who do you think who foots the bill?

Going back to Health Care Insurance is an answer. A high deductible keeps it affordable, yet there when one needs it.

The Current ideas, of "No Preexisting conditions", means that huge premium increases (under Baucus- A Big Tax) are coming. These will hurt Americans still suffering under employment.

And if you think Unemployment will go down... Think Again, the dominoes have just begun to fall. Just wait for the cities to start going under.

36 posted on 10/08/2009 7:29:04 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: bestintxas

Bob Dole is as RINO as ever.


37 posted on 10/08/2009 7:29:58 AM PDT by bmwcyle (We need more Joe Wilson's. OBAMA is ACORN ACORN is OBAMA)
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To: bestintxas
It's the JOBS Stupid !!

Everytime a Republican has microphone is his/her face, they should remind the interviewer Americans see JOBS as the #1 issue in the country!

38 posted on 10/08/2009 7:30:45 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: bestintxas
... that [fill-in-the-blank] is "one of the most important measures members of Congress will vote on in their lifetimes."

Every contentious power-grab by Washington, and every dereliction of constitutional duty (e.g., abdication of the power to regulate the value of money), is "one of the most important measures."

On the health care package, I think Mr. Dole is in fact not bucking the GOP. He's just saying what they wish they could say, just that the public isn't "ready" to accept it at this moment. The GOP is at least as guilty at power-grabbing and abdication as the DEMs are.

39 posted on 10/08/2009 7:32:41 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: bestintxas
Bob Dole, bless his heart, lives in another era that no longer has much relevance in this day and age. He sees things through different eyes AND HAS BEEN WATCHING TOO MUCH MSM.

Overexposure to the liberal media can take its toll on anyone.

40 posted on 10/08/2009 7:33:03 AM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Ok, then try this one on the same theme.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/12/health/policy/12dole.html

Note the quote from Bill Clinton:
“He said that Mr. Dole was “really good on health care for a Republican” and that the two had mapped out a strategy for compromise.”

Really sound slike he will fight for us conservatives, doesn’t it?

Try to imagine him as POTUS, bending over to get Nancy’s wishes in the next congressional bill.


41 posted on 10/08/2009 7:33:21 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas

Gives credibility to democrat claims that this is a bi-partisan bill. Gives credibility to my decision not to be a republican.


42 posted on 10/08/2009 7:33:25 AM PDT by DManA
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To: MNSlim

thats about right.


43 posted on 10/08/2009 7:34:02 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: bestintxas

Dole is still around? I thought that RINO’s instinctually knew where the ancient burial grounds are.... oh thats elephants.


44 posted on 10/08/2009 7:34:26 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: bestintxas

I doubt that he will hold this position for more than 4 hours.


45 posted on 10/08/2009 7:35:05 AM PDT by Gator113 (Obamba, Reid, Pelosi, the socialist triad.)
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To: bestintxas

Dole = Irrelevant


46 posted on 10/08/2009 7:35:33 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: RWGinger

Thanks for your post. I was beginning to think I was reading a different article.


47 posted on 10/08/2009 7:36:31 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: bestintxas

“Bob Dole likes Obamacare. Bob Dole thinks America needs Obamacare. Bob Dole always speaks in the third person. Bob Dole likes Bob Dole....”

- Bob Dole on Bob Dole


48 posted on 10/08/2009 7:36:55 AM PDT by Vasilli22
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To: bestintxas
My 21 yr. old daughter is smarter than Bob Dole....She KNOWS what the Fed's want...They WANT total control thru SINGLE PAYER!!

You don't have to be a MENTAL GIANT to understand this...

Bob Dole.....makes me want to cuss!!

49 posted on 10/08/2009 7:37:03 AM PDT by Osage Orange (A community organizer cannot bitch when communities organize..... - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: bestintxas

The GOP is full of assdoles like this


50 posted on 10/08/2009 7:37:04 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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