Skip to comments.Congress may extend hate crimes laws to cover gays
Posted on 10/08/2009 11:49:30 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
WASHINGTON (AP) - Assaulting people because of their sexual orientation would become a federal hate crime in legislation the House is set to vote on Thursday. The bill would significantly expand the hate crimes law enacted in the days after Martin Luther King Jr.'s assassination in 1968.
With the expected House passage and eventual approval by the Senate, federal prosecutors will for the first time be able to intervene in cases of violence perpetrated against gays based on their sexual orientation.
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And when the rights of Christians are threatened, I know what side I will take.
I thought that was the whole point.
“Hate Crime Laws” are actually (and this has been demonstrated in Canada) “anti-Christian laws”.
What they really need to do is make verbal assualt on politicians a hate crime.
I thought it already was.
Christians and Conservatives also need to be included on that "protected" list.
The only people these laws don’t cover is NORMAL PEOPLE.
All this means is an openly gay man can do or say anything he wants, they will be like a protected species that cannot be touched. (not that I would ever want to touch one mind you...)
This ought to be fun. How about the rights of polygamists? And you know the hate crimes against the goat ...
My guess is the Supreme Court might argue that equal protection under the law is what is supreme.
The whole point is to criminalize
anyone who quotes the bible
on the abomination, indecency, and perversion
of homosexual lusts and acts.
If you want to know how they’ll apply their ideology to any given situation,
all you have to ask is “what position on this issue would further the destruction of the traditional family and/or Western Civilization”,
and you’ll know which side of the issue the left will take.
Hmmm. Growing up, I was subjected to more ethnic jokes than I care to remember, because my last name ends in “ski”.
Where’s my personal hate crime? I wanna sue somebody.
Yep, been doing this for a long time. It’s time we fought back.
If your ethnic group or culture was actively opposed to Western traditional culture,
you’d be protected by “hate crime” legislation.
I don’t think the Poles, being white European Western Culture followers, will ever qualify for protection.
I thought they passed the law after the Matthew Shepherd incident.
I know how to beat this. Everyone sign up as being gay.
How does someone prove they’re gay?
It’s about time. I’ve noticed gay people are very hateful, and it’s about time that when they attack me and my family, or others who think like I do, they should be punished.
shows how much I know - I thought ‘hate crime’ was about
crime against gays....
In the gays defense, they aren’t perpetrating premeditated acts of violence against Christians.
DC = Degenerates Cesspool
I thought it was already illegal to assault people.
I’ve not only beared the brunt of Polish jokes for most of my life, but also endured vicious blond jokes during that time as well.
You must have missed the aftermath of prop 8 in Cali...
Gays were planning violence and vandalism against religious denominations that were promoting protecting one man one woman marriage.
George Carlin said “why don’t you bend over and we’ll both find out”
Somebody explain to me how tiered penalties for certain crimes, depending on the presumed motives of the perpetrator, are not a violation of the Equal Protection clause of the 14th Amendment.
Hmmm, since we don't know what sexual orientation babies in their mothers wombs are until after they are born, and since it seems to have been accepted that gays and lesbians are born that way, couldn't one say that abortion could be a hate crime? I mean since you can't prove which way straight or gay the yet to be born baby is......
f*ck it then. let’s go beat up a queer before the law passes (that’s a joke btw).
I would so be in jail.
I assume you have proof of that. Please post the link.
Here is a link: Link
Since the Bible is quite clear about gays/sodomites and what God suggests be done to them in the OT(stoning), I wonder how long it will be before the Bible itself is outlawed as “hate speech”. All I can say is I have more than one Bible in the house and more than one gun. And I am proficient with both.
Assaulting somebody is already a crime. The feds have no place in enforcing violations of what should be state crimes.
The whole point.
I posted this analysis on another thread, but it equally applies here. Here's how the scam works, for those of you who are frustrated by its persistence and the seeming inability of the GOP to surmount it:
1. Some people are members of a "Protected Class".
2. All "Protected Class" members are entitled to special rights and accusation privileges, unless they also happen to be a member of an "Oppressor Class" (see below)
3. In order to qualify for Protected Class membership, one must be at least one of the following:
a. Non-white or of mixed racial composition4. Some people are members of "Oppressor Classes", including:
c. Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgendered, or Sexually Indeterminate
a. Heterosexual White Males5. Membership rights and privileges of a Protected Class are automatically negated by concurrent membership in an Oppressor Class. For example, a Disabled Hispanic man would ordinarily be protected, unless he also happened to be a Republican, which, as an Oppressor Class negates the protection. Likewise, a white female would be protected unless she happens to be a Christian, and so on.
b. Conservatives and/or Republicans
c. Members of traditional religious faiths, including Fundamentalist Christians, Orthodox Catholics or observant Jews.
a. Total immunity from criticism regarding their thoughts, words, or behavior.Now, the reason why Oppress... er, I mean, Republicans have difficulty negating the effects of this scam is because it is part of the Left's Progressive project, and the whole of our culture is in on it. Our public schools indoctrinate children in the lessons as outlined above in virtually every subject, including the natural sciences (what is "Global Warming" but the outcome of white male capitalist greed?).
b. A presumption of having been oppressed, now or in the past, and a presumption of innocence with regard to anything with which they might be charged by a member of an Oppressor Class.
c. The right of accusation against any member of an Oppressor Class, and a presumption that their accusation is factual and true.
d. Exemption from all personal responsibilities, including the necessity to provide for one's own existence by working.
Moreover, by pretending to speak for entire "classes" of people, the Left adopts a powerful psychological weapon. If a conservative man criticizes an aspect of modern feminism, he's not attacking feminists, he "hates women". If a GOP woman does the same, she "opposes women's rights" or "doesn't want equality". Similarly, if a white man dares to mention that inner-city schools are failing, he is not hailed as a reformer: he just "hates black people" or wants to starve their school of funding. If a black Republican makes the same complaint, he's an "Uncle Tom", which is another means of invoking accusation privileges.
And that's entire the purpose of the "game": it is intimidation, practiced on a grand scale in order to achieve and maintain political power.
The only way to beat it is to agree to stop playing along, which takes a backbone and some testicular fortitude, both of which one presumes might be found among members of the Oppressor Classes.
How does someone prove theyre gay?
Max - don’t go there...
when was the last time you heard about a gang of drunken faggots beating a Christain to death as he walked out of his church?
How does someone prove theyre gay?””
I have stated the same concern a dozens of times. Will they be required to demonstrate felching, rimming, or gerbiling? How does one get benefits for pervert partners?? Is a demonstration required or just a simple statement, like, I’m a fag and so is my partner. Sign him up.
On several occasions gangs of queers have entered churches during services to sling brown rubbers throughout the sitting area. This act has been perpetrated in San Fransicko, NY and other venues. We won’t go into the facts that most of them have molested young boys. Homopedophilia is part of the lifestyle no one talks about.
To the left, normal people are the anathema.
We are to be marginalized, because our way of life (heterosexual marraige, children, personal responsibility, faith in God, reaping the benefits of your work, etc) is the font of all ills.
Fortunately, the left has the solution. If we all become pacifistic, third-world, stone-age tech, homosexual athiests who live in plural marraiges, sucking on the teats of government for our livelihood, the Golden Age will arrive.
At least until the waves of Muslims arrive to cut off our heads. But until then we’ll be able to smugly pronounce our superiority.
Listen man, I really don’t want to take this up as some kind of cause or something. Go find a queer and beat him to death if you want to. I’m done with this.
[...because my last name ends in ski.]
Good question! My last name rhymes with “grease”, so my children need protection from the insults and the inherent risks associated with other kids “jokes.”
[Listen man, I really dont want to take this up as some kind of cause or something.]
Then why did you post your original statement? And more importantly, why do you assume those opposed to this law are planning on attacking gays tonight?
Since there are already laws against beating/killing anyone, explain how this law would provide MORE protection? During the Columbine massacre, Eric and Dylan violated seventeen (17) local, state and federal laws! So according to you, writing more laws would have stopped them from killing all those people!
This is not about protecting anyone, it is about silencing people and having them denounce their religious beliefs against homosexuality. Just because this law does not exist doesn’t mean there will be “white Christian wilding” events staged to beat up gays! That is about as stupid an argument as you can use!
Plain and simply stated, this is about legally ending religious opposition to homosexuality!
I guess you missed the part where I said I’m done with this.
They won't have to. If fact, only perceived "gayness" somehow related to a crime will trip the switch, even when nobody involved in the "crime" is homosexual.
It's amazing, isn't it? "Gays" aren't being protected - only "gayness."
No, I saw it. I was just wondering why exactly did you shake up the bee’s nest and then run.