Posted on 10/09/2009 9:49:10 AM PDT by kronos77
The same Soviets who attacked Finland in 1939?
AND if Stalin hadn’t killed all of those millions by purges in the 1930s then the Soviet Union would have had all of those people to assist in the fighting.
I seem to recall that Ukrainians were used more as cannon fodder than the Russkies.
Is it possible to exaggerate the pure, murderous evil that was the Soviet Union?
The USSR was probably even more ruthless than NAZI Germany. We should have let them kill each other off.
And the Soviet Union started the war along with Germany. So in many ways it’s their own fault.
And the same Soviets that invaded Poland from the East, while they were fighting the Germans on the Western Front.
Just because the Nazi’s turned on them, doesn’t change the fact that they started out on the same side. Also, the fact that they enslaved 1/2 of Europe after the war makes me just a little less grateful than I otherwise would be.
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Both sets of socialist took out enough of each other so that they couldn’t turn them on us.
So it’s a win-win.
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Now.
Stalin was a maniac. No doubt.
But in teh other hand during 1936, 1937 and 1938 USSR tried to ally itsekf with UK and France. During Spanish Civil war, USSR snet aid, man and arms to govt. troops so they can fight against fascists.
UK and France issued embargo, letting Hitler and Franco to their “magic”.
As I live in ex communist country, only one that said “No” to Stallin and lived to tell the story- I can testify that we Serbs, (Yugoslavs) did not wanted to live under Stalins Rule.
But newer, ever did we mixed Red Army fighters with Stalin.
Russiand did brought freedom and destroyed nazism in europe.
With biggest and greatest sacrefice , maybe in history.
All of us are here, on FR telling all sorts of stories because, Red Army captured Berlin and defeated Nazis.
If not, We wouldn be here.
This is the same Stalin, I assume, who kept demanding a second front in Europe, whether or not the British and Americans were prepared, on the threat that Russia would make a separate peace with Germany if a second front wasn't launched? The same Stalin who ordered his troops to stand by while the Warsaw ghetto was destroyed and razed even though they were in a position to have assisted.
What a saint that Stalin was ---
And after the war, the Soviets kept the land they took from Poland in 1939.
Patton could have beaten the Russkies to Berlin, but he was told that Berlin was reserved for the Russians. And the Germans would not have put up nearly the resistance against the Americans that they put up against the Russkies.
Stalin was moron,
but he did had best generals of the war.
Lets not forget that Roosevelt asked Stalin for second front against Japan too.
And the Generals' reward after the war was demotion, in the case of Zhukov.
Which, of course, was never opened until just days before the end of the war. Some friends ...
In retrospect, it's probably a good thing that didn't happen, because a Japanese Civil War would have made the Korean War look like a cakewalk.
Ummmm, World War II probably would not have happened if Stalin hadn’t signed the Non-Aggression Treaty with Nazi Germany and divvied up Poland with them.
The Soviet Union deserved a LOT worse than what it got in WWII.
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