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Rapid Rise in Pediatric Deaths From Swine Flu, Officials Say
WaPo ^ | Oct 9, 2009 | Rob Stein

Posted on 10/09/2009 2:53:07 PM PDT by upchuck

The number of children who have died from the swine flu has jumped sharply as the virus continues to spread widely around the United States, striking youngsters, teenagers, young adults and pregnant women unusually often, federal officials said Friday.

The deaths of another 19 children and teenagers from the new H1N1 virus were reported in the past week around the country, including two in Maryland, pushing the total number of fatalities to 76 among those younger than age 18. It was the largest number of pediatric deaths reported in a single week since the pandemic began last spring.

"These pediatric deaths seem to be increasing substantially," said Anne Schuchat, who heads the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases.

While most of the children who have died have had other health problems that made them particularly vulnerable, such as asthma, muscular dystrophy and cerebral palsy, about 20 percent to 30 percent were otherwise healthy, Schuchat said.

Between 46 and 88 children died from the seasonal flu in each of the last three years, so the fact that so many have already succumbed is disturbing, Schuchat said.

"It's only the beginning of October," she said, noting that the flu season usually starts much later and runs through May. "We saw a peak of deaths, you know, starting April, May, June. It started to level off this summer. Now it's starting to shoot up again."

In addition to the two deaths in Maryland, three were reported in Tennessee, seven occurred in Texas and one occurred in Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Florida, North Carolina, Oklahoma and Wisconsin.

The increase in pediatric deaths comes as the federal government's unprecedented vaccination campaign is just getting underway. Millions of doses of vaccine began arriving around the country this week.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deaths; flu; h1n1; influenza; officials; pediatric; rapid; rise; swineflu
Healthy kids are dying but the vaccine is "safe."

Uh-huh.

1 posted on 10/09/2009 2:53:07 PM PDT by upchuck
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To: upchuck
"Healthy kids are dying but the vaccine is "safe." "

They're not dying from the vaccine, they're dying from the H1N1 flu.

2 posted on 10/09/2009 2:55:50 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: upchuck

Maybe if they had been vaccinated, they’d have survived?

The article does NOT say that the kids/moms are dying from the vaccine.


3 posted on 10/09/2009 3:00:11 PM PDT by DBrow (Thank You Al Gore You Saved Earth!)
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To: upchuck

First you hit them with the live virus mist and spread the crap then you save the day with the killed vaccine shot. Why 2 waves of different vaccine???


4 posted on 10/09/2009 3:00:21 PM PDT by briarbey b (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: upchuck

Okay I just flew around the net a little because for some reason (in addition to having total distrust of this administration) the pandemic thing is not passing my sniff test.

“The virus could eventually infect 2 billion people, or a third of the world’s population, according to WHO estimates.

“In the best case scenario we have today, we will still have a moderate virus that is projected to cause several million deaths,” Dr. Tammam Aloudat, senior health officer at the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies, told a separate news briefing.”

I’m not buying it.


5 posted on 10/09/2009 3:04:21 PM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: Canedawg

swine flu shots will do you in
in to the ground


6 posted on 10/09/2009 3:05:58 PM PDT by manonCANAL
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To: manonCANAL

vaccine was made in foreign countries
china one of them. just think about it.


7 posted on 10/09/2009 3:07:52 PM PDT by manonCANAL
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To: upchuck
While most of the children who have died have had other health problems that made them particularly vulnerable, such as asthma, muscular dystrophy and cerebral palsy, about 20 percent to 30 percent were otherwise healthy, Schuchat said.

Anyone else getting sick and tired of reading every excuse in the book why people are dying from everything in the world except swine flu? Someone is playing this down for some reason. Last week an employee at the University of Texas in Austin died from having diabetes, uh, oh yeah, and she just happened to have swine flu at the time. This week, her sister also died from swine flu, um no, sorry, not the flu because no one dies from H1N1 so instead she must have died because she was obese.

At our local schools, the absence rates have been high. I averaged 6-9 absences in each class period last week and the majority was from flu symptoms. A friend had to pick her kid up at noon today because he was running a high temp. Safe or not, the vaccine is too late because the flu is here.

8 posted on 10/09/2009 3:17:04 PM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: upchuck

Wait a minute - didn’t Obama just cure the Swine Flu?!?


9 posted on 10/09/2009 3:23:17 PM PDT by FortWorthPatriot
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To: Canedawg

Did you read on this mist they first rolled out?? It is a LIVE virus and can spread infection. Maybe they will get their 2 billion infected!


10 posted on 10/09/2009 3:24:25 PM PDT by briarbey b (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: briarbey b

No, the live virus used in the nasal mist has been rendered impotent to reproduce. Spreading falsehoods about the vaccine isn’t helping, skippy. What you really want to check before allowing an injection is where it was made (only two companies of the five producing are in the U.S.) and what is in it (never allow a vaccination with a compound containing thimerasol because it is a neurotoxin).


11 posted on 10/09/2009 3:27:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: manonCANAL

I’ve never gotten a flu shot.

I take Vitamin C, and a funny little product from Guyana that I go out of my way (to the west Indies neighborhoods) to purchase:

Ferrol Compound

an Iron and Vitamin Tonic, 14 fl. oz.

Ingredients: Malt Extract, Potassium Hypophosphate, Manganese Hypophosphate, Calcium Hypophosphate, Ferrous Sulfate, Vitamin A, Vitamin D2, Vitamin B12, Sugar, Glycerol, Sodium Benzoate.

Ferrol Compound is an authentic tonic. It contains iron, essential vitamins and mineral salts. These ingredients help develop red blood cells and carry oxygen throughout your body. Build up your body to help fight off coughs and colds with Ferrol Compound.
***

Whatever it is, it works for me.

:-)


12 posted on 10/09/2009 3:35:56 PM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: bgill

20% of the kids at my son’s high school were out this week.

My daughters are high risk (epilepsy & asthma), and there are so many kids at school sick. I don’t think we’ll get the vaccine in time.

I did get them the seasonal and pneumonia vaccines.

We’ve all upped our intake of vitamins C & D, and we are all washing our hands a ton.


13 posted on 10/09/2009 3:37:00 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: MHGinTN

http://www.medimmune.com/pdf/products/flumist_pi.pdf

17.2 Vaccination with a Live Virus Vaccine
Vaccine recipients or their parents/guardians should be informed by the health care
provider that FluMist is an attenuated live virus vaccine and has the potential for transmission to
immunocompromised household contacts....

There ya go skippy..I won’t touch any of them..never have never will.


14 posted on 10/09/2009 3:37:08 PM PDT by briarbey b (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: briarbey b
Did you read on this mist they first rolled out?? It is a LIVE virus and can spread infection. Maybe they will get their 2 billion infected!

The live vaccine is attenuated. That means that the virulence of the pathogen (H1N1, in this case) is reduced or eliminated to the point that the body gets it, recognizes it, and creates anti-bodies against it. Nothing new. Nothing different. Some vaccines are and always have been attenuated.

The Chicken Pox vaccine is attenuated.

The Sabin Oral Polio vaccine is attenuated.

The Typhoid Fever vaccine is attenuated.

The Measles/Mumps/Rubella vaccines are and/or have been attenuated.

The Yellow Fever vaccine is attenuated.

They are safe for most people under most conditions, but some people shouldn't have attenuated vaccines - people with underlying immune issues, some cancer patients undergoing treatment, etc.

15 posted on 10/09/2009 3:42:58 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Would you buy a used car from this man?)
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To: luckystarmom

Luckystarmom, I have heard alot lately about Vitamin D. Can 6-11 yr. olds take D? How much would you suggest?


16 posted on 10/09/2009 3:47:38 PM PDT by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: upchuck
How come no one mentions SARS anymore.

That was the big doomsday health scare a few years ago.

17 posted on 10/09/2009 3:47:45 PM PDT by bobbysox
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To: upchuck

Beck had two doctors on yesterday, one in favor and one opposed to vaccination.

Opposed reasons, from a professor of medicine:
1. You should get the shot to protect your neighbor from getting the flu (yes, I replayed it to be sure)
2. If you get the flu you will be sick, but likely not very sick, as this is not a deadly flu.
3. If a lot of people get the flu it will disrupt work and may cause panic.

THAT’S ALL HE COULD COME UP WITH

The above was delivered in a very loud and forceful way, talking over the other doctor, I think to cover up the fact there aren’t any strong reasons to get the shot(s).

Against, from a practicing endocrinologist;

1. The vaccine hasn’t been thoroughly tested and may be more dangerous than the flu itself.
2. If you get sick it is likely you won’t get terribly sick.
3. The third reason is that many of the components are made overseas, and although they come from FDA approved labs, some of those labs have only been visited by the FDA once in the past 10 years.


18 posted on 10/09/2009 4:23:28 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Thanks for all that info.

I honestly wish that talk show hosts would realize that when two guests are talking at the same time we (the audience) are being done a considerable disservice.

I wish they would make a rule about this an enforce it.

Hannity especially seems to relish guests talking over each other. And he does it himself. Very irritating. I just punch another button on the radio.

Laura Ingraham is pretty good about this. Many times she has turned off the guest’s mike or phone connection to maintain order. Good for Laura!


19 posted on 10/09/2009 4:30:46 PM PDT by upchuck (New sign on my pickup: Are you a "Hope and Change" regretter?)
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To: upchuck

Bookmark for later.


20 posted on 10/09/2009 4:32:19 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Mmm, mmm, mmm.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

“”THAT’S ALL HE COULD COME UP WITH””

No - that’s not all he came up with. Before the segment ended he said the vaccine is necessary for economic reasons - people are sick, they miss work, businesses close. Quite a departure from: our moral and ethical obligation to protect our neighbors. I too, had trouble believing my ears at that. Disappointing that he is a regular Fox contributor.

With a lot of dissatisfaction with Fox lately from all angles, will FR be our last refuge? Fine with me. At least my blood pressure doesn’t go up when I’m on FR.


21 posted on 10/09/2009 4:37:53 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: upchuck
The nasal vaccine was given at some local elementary schools yesterday. I expect to see an increase in the Swine Flu very shortly around here.

sw

22 posted on 10/09/2009 4:41:41 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: luckystarmom

Raise the daily intake of Vitamin D3 to 4000 units per day (available in gelcaps in 2000 unit doses, take two each day) and don’t let an asthmatic child back to school while many are sick with this flu. Home school for the time being for any asthmatic kids.


23 posted on 10/09/2009 4:50:05 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: luckystarmom

For any immuno compromised kid, have the injectible vaccine in NON-Thimerasol dose. DO NOT accept the nasal mist for an asthamtic child!


24 posted on 10/09/2009 4:52:48 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Thank You Rush

The three points I posted were all he could come up with.

You elaborated on my point number 3.


25 posted on 10/09/2009 4:57:02 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: upchuck

BS. There is no indication that this flu is worse than any other flu. They quote weekly statistics and try to interpolate the numbers as meaning that this is a deadly flu. They want to impose restrictions on us, and this is one way to do it.


26 posted on 10/09/2009 5:15:25 PM PDT by calex59
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To: bgill
Anyone else getting sick and tired of reading every excuse in the book why people are dying from everything in the world except swine flu? Someone is playing this down for some reason. Last week an employee at the University of Texas in Austin died from having diabetes, uh, oh yeah, and she just happened to have swine flu at the time. This week, her sister also died from swine flu, um no, sorry, not the flu because no one dies from H1N1 so instead she must have died because she was obese.

You are, to put it simply, an idiot. Swine flu is being used as the excuse for deaths caused by other means. If you think they are playing this down your brain has a short circuit. The CDC and other government agencies are trying to blow this into a large scale epidemic and they are failing, therefore they are ramping up the BS. Believe what you want, but know that your stupidity knows no bounds if you believe the crap you just wrote.

27 posted on 10/09/2009 5:19:28 PM PDT by calex59
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To: GoCards

6-11 year olds can definitely take it.

We are doing 2000 iu for my daughter who is on anti-seizure medication because the medication strips her of vitamin D and she is low.

For the other 2 (12 & 15), we are doing 1000 iu.

I would ask your pediatrician (or look online).


28 posted on 10/09/2009 5:29:16 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: MHGinTN

I know about not taking the flu mist. Our asthma doctor also reminded us not to take that.

Unfortunately, that’s what is available.


29 posted on 10/09/2009 5:30:45 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: calex59

There is indication that it is worse for epilepsy.

http://www.epilepsy.com/newsfeeds/press_release/985287

There were 200 kids out at my son’s high school this week. That is way more than average.

His friends are getting fevers of 103. That’s pretty high for high schoolers.


30 posted on 10/09/2009 5:33:15 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: briarbey b
First you hit them with the live virus mist

What's up with that? Why put live virus in a spray which then spreads the virus to everyone in the room? That's just nuts.

31 posted on 10/09/2009 5:41:46 PM PDT by giotto
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To: briarbey b

Population control (ie genocide) ala the communists. What a novel idea.


32 posted on 10/09/2009 6:09:18 PM PDT by XenaLee
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To: luckystarmom

everyone in my area is sick right now too.....with a cold and regular flu...not swine flu


33 posted on 10/09/2009 7:25:54 PM PDT by annelizly
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To: Canedawg

You ingest manganese deliberately?

http://neuro.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/11/1/117


34 posted on 10/09/2009 7:56:43 PM PDT by DBrow (Thank You Al Gore You Saved Earth!)
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To: manonCANAL
"vaccine was made in foreign countries
china one of them. just think about it."

Where did you get that information? I heard a doctor on FoxNews just yesterday specifically say that none of the vaccines are made in China, although vaccines may be produced from components that originate in China.

I did a search not too long ago for different chemicals, etc. Disturbingly, it is difficult to find many that don't come from China.

35 posted on 10/09/2009 8:03:01 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Southern by choice ... American by the grace of God)
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To: DBrow

I have none of those symptoms, and I don’t get more than one cold every couple or few years (knocks wood).


36 posted on 10/09/2009 8:27:23 PM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: Canedawg

Looks like it’s as toxic as thimerosal. I’d never go near anything like that. Good luck.


37 posted on 10/09/2009 8:33:51 PM PDT by DBrow (Thank You Al Gore You Saved Earth!)
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To: calex59

“BS. There is no indication that this flu is worse than any other flu.”

Sure there is. The 1918 flu was an H1N1 variant. Swine flu in the human population is rare. Swine flus that show up in the human population can swap DNA with human flu, and the resulting mutation can be highly lethal. Human flu kills the weak. H1N1 mutations kill the young and healthy. It makes the immune system go into overdrive and you drown in your own antibodies. In 1918 people began showing symptoms in the morning and by evening they were dead. There’s no way of knowing if this H1N1 will mutate into something as virulent as 1918 but the potential is there with human flu season now starting.


38 posted on 10/09/2009 9:44:41 PM PDT by Pelham (Amnesty for Illegals, a bipartisan goal of the Stupid Party and the Evil Party)
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