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Posted on 10/10/2009 5:49:51 AM PDT by restornu
News - Friday, October 9, 2009 23:15 - 0 Comments Hoekstra and Rogers: Democrats idea of health care reform will bring a lot of taxes and uncertainty
U.S. Representative Mike Rogers said its clear to him how the Democrats will find the $1.8 trillion he says they need to pay for their national health care reform.
They are going to tax you to death, Rogers told a crowd Friday.
Rogers, a Republican from Brighton, was in Dearborn on Monday along with U.S. Representative Peter Hoekstra, a Republican from Holland, for the Michigan Business & Legislative Forum annual conference. It was hosted by the Michigan Business & Professional Association.
Hoekstra said when politicians say, I dont know at health care forums, it is not because they havent read the bill. He said it was because the politicians punted the tough decisions in the bill to a health care commissioner whose rulings will determine much of how reform takes place.
Hoekstra said there were 189 times in the bill that made reference to a ruling by the health care commissioner.
We will all be guessing until that decision is actually made, he said.
Rogers serves on the health care sub committee. The Senate Finance Committee is planning to vote Tuesday on its health care bill. Rogers told the crowd the U.S. House will pass its bill and with the Senates version, President Barack Obama is working it very hard.
He said the version of the health care reform bill he read will allow for abortions. Rogers said the bill also makes employers pay 72.5 percent of the health care premiums for part-time employees.
I dont think people will pay that much for a cheeseburger at McDonalds, Rogers said.
Rogers has introduced the American Health Care Solutions Act earlier this week. That act is a compilation of 50 bills that addressed problems in health care without government invention.
Rogers said there were plenty of solutions to a lot of the problems with health care that could be done right away that didnt involve the government.
Among other things, his bill allows for small businesses to pool employees with other small businesses to get better rates, something not allowed today, Rogers said.
Hoekstra said the health care debate was really an issue about freedom.
The federal government will take over 18 percent of the economy and there will be a massive shift from markets to bureaucrats, Hoekstra said.
Where does the government lead in quality and excellence? Hoekstra asked the crowd.
Hoekstra said a lot of people in the business community have thrown their hands up in the air over health care and are resigned to a government takeover.
Guess what? We will back to take another piece, he said.
At one point, Hoekstra corrected a man in the audience who had chided insurance companies for profiting on health care.
Dont please dont make insurance company profits evil, Hoekstra said. How many in this room make a profit?
Hoekstra said profits should be a reward to anyone who delivers quality and excellence in health care.
High profits mean a lot of satisfied customers, Hoekstra said.
What they should say is that this bill along with slap and trade will destroy the United States and turn it into a left wing dictatorship. It is amazing how many people want to play and have the government send them money they will vote for the left as long as they are given money to play with. But they do not understand that at some time they will placed in slavery as all who live in a dictatorship are.
If the left wins it is goodbye to my country and to my Constitution.
Hello it is the same as when Rome lost its Republic to the dictators.
Both of these reps are from Michigan and good people.
“Democrats health care reform will bring a lot of taxes and uncertainty:”
Going to bring a lot of death too, hope they got that in there in the meeting.
Rogers said that small employers will have to pay 72.5% of the health care premiums of part-time employees. I’m a small business in Roger’s district with one 18-hour per week employee. If this monstrosity passes I will lay that employee off, period. Millions and millions of other part-time employees will face similar fates. Unemployment rates will soar, and tax collections -— at all levels of government -— will plunge. Fasten your seat belt, folks. This is going to be ugly.
Pete Hoekstra is running for Governor, here, and is a very good man. Unfortunately, the democrat leeches will never vote for him.
I keep my fingers crossed.
They absolutely have no RIGHT to tell you what you can and cannot do about your health insurance! Or health care! This is none of the government’s business.
It’s such a basic principle.
How dare they tell me what I have to do about my health care. This is so outrageous, I can’t believe people are even trying to argue about the details.
Good news is they can’t vote for Jenny. We will have to see how the primaries go. I will NOT vote for Cox.
“I will not vote for Cox”.
Maybe our slogan can be “No Cox!”
How about Cox is a Dick!
I’ll go along with that.
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