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Obama points to growing momentum for health-care reform (RINO's)
Market Watch ^ | Oct. 10, 2009 | Kate Gibson

Posted on 10/10/2009 9:46:36 AM PDT by AuntB

President Obama on Saturday urged Congress to "rise above the politics of the moment" and adopt healthcare legislation, saying the effort has gathered momentum in recent days, with Republicans, including California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and former Senate Majority leader Bill Frist, endorsing reform.

The Congressional Budge Office found the Senate Finance Committee's version of health care would make coverage affordable for millions now without it, "without adding a dime to our deficits," said Obama in his weekly radio address. Read more about bill's price tag.

When Schwarzenegger and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg earlier in the came out in support of health-insurance reform, they joined an "unprecedented consensus" that also includes Frist, a cardiac surgeon, and Bob Dole, like Frist a former GOP Senate majority leader, Obama said.

"These distinguished leaders understand that health-insurance reform isn't a Democratic issue or a Republican issue, but an American issue that demands a solution," the president said.

Written by Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., the proposed legislation is expected by to pass the committee, which consists of 13 Democrats and 10 Republicans.

House and Senate negotiators would then need to come up with a single bill to send to Obama's desk for his signature.

Public opposition to the reform favored by Obama has dropped sharply in recent weeks, according to the latest poll by the Associated Press

"These distinguished leaders understand that health-insurance reform isn't a Democratic issue or a Republican issue, but an American issue that demands a solution," the president said.

(Excerpt) Read more at marketwatch.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dole; frist; gopsupporters; healthcare; obamacare; partyfirsters; rinos; schwarzenegger
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I keep seeing comments like this on FR: “I hereby promise to support the GOP candidate in 2012 no matter who he or she may be "

Frist, Schwarzenegger and Dole and have proven the danger of that! Party before country will destroy this nation. Let the democrats be those useful idiots. I have not been a 'republican' since Dole's nomination and became one because the good leaders of the republican party stood up to Nixon and said "NO MORE".."GET OUT"...where are those men of principal now?

1 posted on 10/10/2009 9:46:36 AM PDT by AuntB
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To: AuntB
“I hereby promise to support the GOP candidate in 2012 no matter who he or she may be "

You never heard that from me. Constitution Party..

2 posted on 10/10/2009 9:49:00 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Dont Tread on Me)
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To: AuntB

Ahnold and Dole are republicans like Hussein deserved the Nobel prize. And Bloomberg—the nations supreme gun-grabber! Another real conservative and American patriot.


3 posted on 10/10/2009 9:51:57 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: AuntB
Here is the poll data they are discussing.

http://www.ap-gfkpoll.com/pdf/AP-GfK_Poll_Healthcare_Topline_10609.pdf

I will never support this travesty.

4 posted on 10/10/2009 9:53:37 AM PDT by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: AuntB
Friends

Supporter!

5 posted on 10/10/2009 9:53:58 AM PDT by BellStar (Be strong ........Joshua 1:6)
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To: AuntB

Dole and Frist came out for the Democrat versions of this bill? I have not seen this. Are there links?


6 posted on 10/10/2009 9:54:50 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: AuntB
....because the good leaders of the republican party stood up to Nixon and said "NO MORE".."GET OUT"

And then how many people died?

Then as now is the same the politician are looking for reelection to office.

7 posted on 10/10/2009 9:57:27 AM PDT by the_daug
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To: AuntB

I agree and Obama be wrong.


8 posted on 10/10/2009 9:57:46 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: AuntB

GGGGGGRRRRRRRRR !!!!!!!


9 posted on 10/10/2009 9:57:46 AM PDT by thepatriot1 (...brought to you courtesy of the Red, White and Blue)
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To: AuntB

Market watch is owned by CBS.
Its a hard left wing operation.

Dont fall for the CBS BS!
Bill frist was misquoted last week by the Wash Compost and demanded a retraction.
But the state media keeps spreading the big LIE.
Bloomberg was a registered Dem before his Mayor’s race.
Bob Dole is a Lobbyist now !


10 posted on 10/10/2009 10:00:15 AM PDT by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: ilgipper

It was a HUGE misuote by the Wash Compost and Dole is a lobbyist and did not come out and support it but did not shred it either!
Market Watch is a CBS run left wing operation !


11 posted on 10/10/2009 10:01:45 AM PDT by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: AuntB

The GOP Beltway pundits assume conservative anger at Obama’s policies will translate into automatic conservative support for the Republican. Thus enabling GOP candidates to devote more time to pander to independents.

2012 Campaign Message: Obama’s a socialist! Vote GOP!


12 posted on 10/10/2009 10:02:17 AM PDT by DanZanRyu
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To: AuntB

How can we pass judgment without knowing what’s in the bill?


13 posted on 10/10/2009 10:02:53 AM PDT by frposty (I'm a simpleton)
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To: AuntB

NO! We are broke and can not afford anymore soocial programs. What about the economy, how about working on that?


14 posted on 10/10/2009 10:03:02 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Chgogal

And this phony poll was deemed a SCAM when analyzed !
it was conducted by some German left wing non profit scam group.


15 posted on 10/10/2009 10:03:03 AM PDT by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: AuntB
It's time to FReep them again and tell them that we don't want federal healthcare!

U. S. Senate

U. S. House of Representatives

16 posted on 10/10/2009 10:04:47 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ilgipper
"Dole and Frist came out for the Democrat versions of this bill? I have not seen this. Are there links?"

Well, there is this article and it's all over radio news today.

One previously reported on FR: Bill Frist on Health Bill: I'd Vote For It (What the heck?) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2354010/posts

AND

White House Pushes Former GOP Officials' Support for Health Care Reform ABC News - 23 minutes ago

AND

DNC touts GOP support in new ad Politico - 1 hour ago‎ Arnold Schwarzenegger, along with several former office holders: Senate majority leaders Bob Dole and Bill Frist, and George HW Bush Health and Human ...

and

GOP Leaders Support Health Care Reform? truthout - Scott Galindez -Oct 9, 2009 (Photo: Leadership Conference on Civil Rights / flickr) Senate Majority Leaders Bob Dole and Bill Frist along with the Health and Human Services Secretaries ...

17 posted on 10/10/2009 10:08:49 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB

Dole is a paid K street lobbist prostitute.

I have been saying for over a week that my money says a lot of republicans will vote FOR this health care bill.

It’s all about taking over the country and subjecting us to tyranny.


18 posted on 10/10/2009 10:09:50 AM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: ncalburt; rabscuttle385
One previously reported on FR: Bill Frist on Health Bill: I'd Vote For It http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2354010/posts

AND

White House Pushes Former GOP Officials' Support for Health Care Reform ABC News - 23 minutes ago

AND

DNC touts GOP support in new ad Politico - 1 hour ago; Arnold Schwarzenegger, along with several former office holders: Senate majority leaders Bob Dole and Bill Frist, and George HW Bush Health and Human ...

and

GOP Leaders Support Health Care Reform? truthout - Scott Galindez -Oct 9, 2009 (Photo: Leadership Conference on Civil Rights Senate Majority Leaders Bob Dole and Bill Frist along with the Health and Human Services Secretaries ...

19 posted on 10/10/2009 10:12:17 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: ncalburt
Yup, and “Market Watch” and AP jump all over it.

If this bill passes, beginning 2013, millions of elderly will be getting LESS healthcare.

20 posted on 10/10/2009 10:13:05 AM PDT by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: frposty; pissant

“How can we pass judgment without knowing what’s in the bill?”

Doesn’t seem to stop the rinos...like the dems, they don’t read bills, there is just enough to pad their pockets that they approve.


21 posted on 10/10/2009 10:17:39 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB
Again

Bill frist has already stated that the Wash Compost twisted his response and he asked for a retraction !

Don't you get the Obama state media and DNC strategy here.
Keep telling the same Lies over and over. I have seen this same exact story published in twelve spots ( Ap, POlitico< NY Slimes, WSJ).
Market Watch is a CBS state media operation.
This week these Obama media drones cooked up a phony AP poll and misquoted GOP figures and tried to sell Bloomberg as a real republican.
Don't fall the state media propaganda.!!!!!!

22 posted on 10/10/2009 10:19:19 AM PDT by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: AuntB
Not from me! The RNC is playing the same old game again, trying to scare people into voting for a lesser evil. As a result we get forced further into a leftist tyranny with each election.

It's time to turn around!

23 posted on 10/10/2009 10:21:19 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Chgogal

This same exact story word for word has been republised 25 times since the NY Slimes and Compost misquoted Frist.
This is the state media at its worst !

Frist is an owner in HCA hospitals.
This bill has killed his stock !


24 posted on 10/10/2009 10:21:41 AM PDT by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: AuntB

Besides the Bush policies on amnesty and uncontrolled spending, a major reason for Republican fall from power in 2006 was the lack of leadership by Frist and Hastert. Even with majorities, they were unable to keep control and advance conservative agendas. Frist let the Gang of 14 take control of the judicial nominations.

To hear these architects of the Republican collapse speak out in support of Obama is a joke. The only guy missing from this bunch of morons is McCain.


25 posted on 10/10/2009 10:21:57 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: AuntB

the federal government getting involved in healthcare is a wild stretch of article 1 section 8, they have no authority to impose this tyrranny upon us . They should ALL be removed from office by the US military . ......this is true ....but I am the nut ! !


26 posted on 10/10/2009 10:23:58 AM PDT by KTM rider ( ..........tell me this really isn't happening ! !)
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To: oldbill
"Besides the Bush policies on amnesty and uncontrolled spending, a major reason for Republican fall from power in 2006 was the lack of leadership by Frist and Hastert. Even with majorities, they were unable to keep control and advance conservative agendas. Frist let the Gang of 14 take control of the judicial nominations. To hear these architects of the Republican collapse speak out in support of Obama is a joke. The only guy missing from this bunch of morons is McCain."

Bears repeating!

27 posted on 10/10/2009 10:23:58 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB

This is the new meme or talking point. All the Dhimmis are doing it. Momentum is on their side. To them, up is down, in is out, sagging support means rising support. All the polls say the opposite. People must immediately destroy this argument and expose it as pure propaganda.


28 posted on 10/10/2009 10:25:57 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: ncalburt

Bill Frist was on CNBC disputing the Post’s LIES. Remember people they are spewing propaganda morning, noon and night. They never rest. Neither can we.


29 posted on 10/10/2009 10:27:17 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: frposty
How can we pass judgment without knowing what’s in the bill?

AND WHY DON'T WE KNOW WHAT'S IN THE BILL? The left don't want us to know. That should be the first clue.

"rise above the politics" ??? When the left rise above the politics, maybe.

Has anything the leftist done worked? Name one.

30 posted on 10/10/2009 10:27:41 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (dimocRATS, the party of taxes and death. Is this what you want?)
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To: All

http://washingtonindependent.com/63034/dole-blasts-mcconnell-as-barrier-to-health-reform

Dole Blasts McConnell as Barrier to Health Reform

Much is being made this week of the Obama administration’s efforts to showcase those Republicans who’ve come out in vocal support of health care reform this year, including former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) and California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Add to that list former Senate Majority Leader Robert Dole (R-Kans.). The one-time presidential candidate blasted current Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) this week for his persistent attempts to kill the Democrats’ legislation. From The Star of Kansas City:

“I want this to pass,” he said. “I don’t agree with everything Obama is presenting, but we’ve got to do something.”

He added: “I don’t want the Republicans putting up a ‘no’ sign and saying, ‘we’re not open for business.’”

Dole singled out one “very prominent Republican, who happens to be the Republican leader of the Senate,” The Star reported.


31 posted on 10/10/2009 10:30:03 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: ilgipper

Frist has not at all as he explained on Laura Ingraham early this past week.


32 posted on 10/10/2009 10:32:06 AM PDT by BonRad (As Rome goes so goes the world)
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To: AuntB

what news sources the STAR and Wash independent ????

Bob Dole is a EMPLOYED lobbyist NOW and has not been in office for 10 years !

Who cares ???


33 posted on 10/10/2009 10:32:37 AM PDT by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: ncalburt

“Bill frist has already stated that the Wash Compost twisted his response and he asked for a retraction !”

Fine, give us a link.

Here are Dole’s quotes:

http://washingtonindependent.com/63034/dole-blasts-mcconnell-as-barrier-to-health-reform

Dole Blasts McConnell as Barrier to Health Reform

Much is being made this week of the Obama administration’s efforts to showcase those Republicans who’ve come out in vocal support of health care reform this year, including former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) and California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Add to that list former Senate Majority Leader Robert Dole (R-Kans.). The one-time presidential candidate blasted current Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) this week for his persistent attempts to kill the Democrats’ legislation. From The Star of Kansas City:

“I want this to pass,” he said. “I don’t agree with everything Obama is presenting, but we’ve got to do something.”

He added: “I don’t want the Republicans putting up a ‘no’ sign and saying, ‘we’re not open for business.’”

Dole singled out one “very prominent Republican, who happens to be the Republican leader of the Senate,” The Star reported.


34 posted on 10/10/2009 10:33:01 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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Yes, let's listen to those in "the party" who opposed the idea of "The Contract With America," and have done all they could to reverse it. They managed to engineer the stunning losses in the house and senate during the last two congressional and senatorial races. I guess they just figure that since going left the last two cycles didn't really help (it actually got their butts handed to them!), if they go REALLY hard left, maybe the pubbies will do better this time.

I wasn't going to vote for McCain until he selected Governor Palin. I'm still pissed off at the way they treated her. If the republicans pull this crap again, they'll lose me forever, and yes, I realize that the next election could mean the end of the USA as we know it. To quote someone from Viet Nam, "maybe we need to burn the village down to save it."

Mark

35 posted on 10/10/2009 10:33:23 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: AuntB

What kind of reform and how much is it going to cost me personally? You never see them throwing around a number that estimates the cost to the tax payer.


36 posted on 10/10/2009 10:37:33 AM PDT by linn37 ( "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: AuntB

when we take control of this party one of our first orders of business has to be a defined, clear process for kicking people out


37 posted on 10/10/2009 10:37:54 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: WashingtonSource
Exactly, please wake up here.
Its NO coincidence that a phony AP poll is dropped the same week the CBO released an odd analysis which clearly stated its needs a REAL BILL to complete a real IMPACT but the media IGNORED that. Please recall Obama dragged the CBO chief inot the WH in August and threatened him. Can you impagine the state media if Bush had done That !!!
The the Compost and Time and the NY Slimes push a misquote from Frist to cook up the new propaganda line that see all the Repub like radical socialism too.
Please note not a SINGLE GOP congressman is QUOTED in this latest propaganda attack.

this is the same scam the state media tried for Amnesty !!!!
fake polls , misquotes , New momentum angle, blah, blah, blah.
Don't fall for it !
Call the SOBs on Monday and Tuesday and stop this Obama death care NOW!

38 posted on 10/10/2009 10:40:07 AM PDT by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: linn37

“What kind of reform and how much is it going to cost me personally? You never see them throwing around a number that estimates the cost to the tax payer.”

THAT is the last thing any of them want any of us to know.


39 posted on 10/10/2009 10:41:49 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: ilgipper

Frist was taken out of context which he explained on his site which the media refuses to acknowledge. He even talks about how it is necessary to have tort reform so NO he does not support this bill.


40 posted on 10/10/2009 10:45:28 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: AuntB

Why are defending a propaganda Piece from the left wing Market watch (a CBS proppaganda outlet)?
its not a crediabke news source is neither are the other Obama state media outlets such as Politico ( which may be funded by Soros) , Time, NY Slimes , Compost....
They all printed this same exact story line for the last 6 days ! Its called the drip drip drip propaganda strategy.
Tell the same lie lone enough and people begin the believe it.
He was on CNBC stating he was misquoted this week !
The guy is part owner in HCA !
Why would he want a radical socialism ????

Don’t fall for the Obama propaganda !!


41 posted on 10/10/2009 10:45:48 AM PDT by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: ncalburt

Blah, blah, blah..

I asked you to provide a link that shows FRIST was misquoted and denies this...WHERE is it? I can’t find it!


42 posted on 10/10/2009 10:47:27 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“when we take control of this party one of our first orders of business has to be a defined, clear process for kicking people out”

Heck, I’d be happy if the rinos would just follow the GOP party platform, which they don’t. One example, the platform says NO AMNESTY....it’s time for them and US to admit the party has been taken over by leftists.


43 posted on 10/10/2009 10:49:28 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB

I have no idea how to link to CNBC interviews .
You will have to do it yourself.
Ask someone else how to link up.
I usually ask my kids but everyone out playing ball today.


44 posted on 10/10/2009 10:50:34 AM PDT by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: ncalburt

“I have no idea how to link to CNBC interviews .
You will have to do it yourself.
Ask someone else how to link up.
I usually ask my kids but everyone out playing ball today.”

Copy and paste the URL...
Give me the title and I’ll link it.


45 posted on 10/10/2009 10:51:39 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB

Sorry ,I don’t have a CNBC account.
I saw the interview at the airport this week .
Hit the washingtonsource poster, he may have access.


46 posted on 10/10/2009 10:56:01 AM PDT by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: ncalburt

The only thing I can find you may be referring to is this blog:

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/06/an-effort-to-put-republican-comments-in-a-republican-context/


47 posted on 10/10/2009 11:11:53 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: ilgipper

Dole and Daschle Endorse a Health Care Overhaul
http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/07/dole-daschle-endorse-a-health-care-overhaul/


48 posted on 10/10/2009 11:15:44 AM PDT by BellStar (Be strong ........Joshua 1:6)
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To: ncalburt; AuntB
Here's a video of Bill Frist now trying to explain his position saying no bill is "there" for him yet. (So WHY did he say he'd vote for it?)

http://billfrist.com/?q=blogs/bill-frist/content/100309-my-response-time-article-and-support-it

49 posted on 10/10/2009 11:17:25 AM PDT by bobbysox
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To: AuntB

Anyone who has signed on to this criminal act shall pay at the ballot box! I’m sick of talking and no ones listening!I will vote for the homeless man on the corner before I waste my vote on any of these criminally pathetic egotistical arrogant parasites. How do you support a bill that has not been written or if it has they refuse to read it themselves or post it so WE THE PEOPLE can read it. THEY WORK FOR US , WE GIVE THEM THAT PRIVELEGE AND WE WILL TAKE IT AWAY.


50 posted on 10/10/2009 11:58:08 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Leaders who refuse to lead will be lead by the people)
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