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A Darker Side of Columbus Emerges in US Classrooms
Associated Press ^ | October 11, 2009

Posted on 10/11/2009 8:18:44 AM PDT by reaganaut1

TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- Jeffrey Kolowith's kindergarten students read a poem about Christopher Columbus, take a journey to the New World on three paper ships and place the explorer's picture on a timeline through history.

Kolowith's students learn about the explorer's significance -- though they also come away with a more nuanced picture of Columbus than the noble discoverer often portrayed in pop culture and legend.

''I talk about the situation where he didn't even realize where he was,'' Kolowith said. ''And we talked about how he was very, very mean, very bossy.''

Columbus' stature in U.S. classrooms has declined somewhat through the years, and many districts will not observe his namesake holiday on Monday. Although lessons vary, many teachers are trying to present a more balanced perspective of what happened after Columbus reached the Caribbean and the suffering of indigenous populations.

''The whole terminology has changed,'' said James Kracht, executive associate dean for academic affairs in the Texas A&M College of Education and Human Development. ''You don't hear people using the world 'discovery' anymore like they used to. 'Columbus discovers America.' Because how could he discover America if there were already people living here?''

In Texas, students start learning in the fifth grade about the ''Columbian Exchange'' -- which consisted not only of gold, crops and goods shipped back and forth across the Atlantic Ocean, but diseases carried by settlers that decimated native populations.

In McDonald, Pa., 30 miles southwest of Pittsburgh, fourth-grade students at Fort Cherry Elementary put Columbus on trial this year -- charging him with misrepresenting the Spanish crown and thievery. They found him guilty and sentenced him to life in prison.

''In their own verbiage, he was a bad guy,'' teacher Laurie Crawford said.

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Many people like to show how sensitive and noble they are by tearing down famous people in American history.
1 posted on 10/11/2009 8:18:44 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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‘And we talked about how he was very, very mean, very bossy.’’
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And...In being “mean and bossy” he saved the lives of his men!

I bet this weenie of a government Marxist indoctrinator ( misnamed “teacher”) forgot to mention that.


2 posted on 10/11/2009 8:21:43 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: reaganaut1

Thank you Christopher Columbus for leading the charge that ultimately replaced barbarian savages with the most important and noble society the world has ever known. The world is in your debt.


3 posted on 10/11/2009 8:22:34 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: reaganaut1

Oh for crying out loud.

While patriotic Americans go about their days, do their jobs and try to do the right thing.

Determined marxists are tearing down Americas children.


4 posted on 10/11/2009 8:22:43 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (2012: Repeal it all... All of it!)
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To: reaganaut1

And in a few years they’ll start pealing back the veneer of Martin Luther King ... oh wait, nevermind.


5 posted on 10/11/2009 8:22:53 AM PDT by Jackson57
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To: reaganaut1
By the way, what kind of a so-called “man” would **want** to teach kindergarten?
6 posted on 10/11/2009 8:22:57 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: reaganaut1

For those of you who are unsure of the concept, the NEA/NTU is winning the war. Look at the voters up to age 30. Obama by a landslide!


7 posted on 10/11/2009 8:24:09 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: wintertime

Obama


8 posted on 10/11/2009 8:24:42 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: reaganaut1
''And we talked about how he was very, very mean, very bossy.''

He was the Captain of a ship. If you were not "mean and bossy" with a crew of half starved drunken sailors you would find yourself being fed to the sharks and your ships sold to pirates. If your crew did not fear you, then you had a lot to fear from your crew.

9 posted on 10/11/2009 8:25:08 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: reaganaut1
I wonder if they discuss the “peaceful” cultural practices of the indigenous American peoples, such as the Mayans, or the “peaceful” native American tribes that never, ever thought of waging war on other Native American tribes until those bastard white folks showed up?
10 posted on 10/11/2009 8:26:01 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 163)
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To: wintertime

Imagine...a 15th Century sea captain being bossy. Next thing you know, they’ll be saying drill sargeants are bossy.


11 posted on 10/11/2009 8:27:10 AM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: wintertime

“By the way, what kind of so-called “man” would **want** to teach kindergarten?”

That would be a faggot. With NAMBLA membership.


12 posted on 10/11/2009 8:27:37 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: reaganaut1
Destroying our heroes has always been a key element in the Progressive agenda. It is a way to "deconstruct" history, and change its meaning to validate what Barack Obama might call the "fundamental transformation of the United States of America".

In fact, he did call it that. Was anyone listening?

13 posted on 10/11/2009 8:30:27 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: wintertime

And Stalin and Mao were so benevolent.


14 posted on 10/11/2009 8:33:49 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Waste and fraud are synonymous with gov't spending)
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To: reaganaut1
Hmm. it must be October.

If Columbus had not discovered the new World it would have been found by the Portuguese a few years later. It was going to be found!

If the Indians had made a voyage of discovery East they may have found Europe and still contracted the diseases for which they had no immunity. it is not the Europeans fault that they were not immune to disease.
Life is tough! besides they gave Europeans Syphilis.

Columbus found Indians killing and eating Indians. His men found and saved some captive women who were pregnant. Their captors loved fresh cooked baby.

Columbus’ voyage west was to get around the Islamic countries blocking the way to Chinese goods.

15 posted on 10/11/2009 8:34:52 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (You talkin' ta me? YOU TALKIN TO ME! Well just who are you talkin' to?)
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To: reaganaut1

If not Columbus, it would have been another European, which was inevitable.
A technologically superior culture replaced a primitive one. Like it or not, it’s the way of the world. Live with it.


16 posted on 10/11/2009 8:36:49 AM PDT by cydcharisse
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To: raptor29

Jeffrey Kolowith’s kindergarten students

Oh Jeffrey...

you nincompoop, just who was your history professor?


17 posted on 10/11/2009 8:38:18 AM PDT by wita
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To: reaganaut1
They found him guilty and sentenced him to life in prison.

Free Chris!!! Justice For Chris!!! No Justice, No Peace!!!

18 posted on 10/11/2009 8:39:34 AM PDT by rickmichaels
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To: raptor29

I don’t think all male kindergarten teachers should be bashed this way.


19 posted on 10/11/2009 8:40:21 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Very funny! :-)


20 posted on 10/11/2009 8:40:52 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: P-Marlowe
He was the Captain of a ship. If you were not "mean and bossy" with a crew of half starved drunken sailors you would find yourself being fed to the sharks and your ships sold to pirates. If your crew did not fear you, then you had a lot to fear from your crew.

I wonder how "Captain" Obama would have done.

21 posted on 10/11/2009 8:41:25 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: cydcharisse

“A technologically superior culture replaced a primitive one. Like it or not, it’s the way of the world. Live with it.”

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A historical truism, which so-called “free traders” would do well to ponder!

As America sends all our factories and technology, to people who hate us.

WE. Are becoming the primitive culture vis-a-vis a number of potential adversaries VERY RAPIDLY.

It’s very likely, the result will be the same, as it was when we were the technological leaders:

We are headed rapidly, to being conquered.


22 posted on 10/11/2009 8:41:43 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (2012: Repeal it all... All of it!)
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To: reaganaut1

So, all you kids who thought Columbus was evil, go back to the land your ancestors came from and start over.


23 posted on 10/11/2009 8:42:42 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

on other Native American tribes
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Or...How these “peaceful” Native American, kidnapped the wives and children of other Native American tribes or skinned alive their Native American captives.


24 posted on 10/11/2009 8:43:35 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: reaganaut1

If it is a good, meaningful thing to talk about the contribtions of Africans and African culture, and if, as we have been told since the 1960s this is the fundamental basis of positive self-esteem because feeling bad about their history was at the heart of many problems black Americans had, then why is it a good thing to teach very young children about how bad the people were who founded their own culture? We are becoming a nation with low national self-esteem - or as normal people say - no national pride. This is like telling your young child about all the bad things their grandparents did, which, though maybe true, had context and should be learned later when the child grows up and understands the nuances of life.


25 posted on 10/11/2009 8:44:15 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (The trouble with trouble is it starts out as Utopia)
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To: reaganaut1

“I don’t think all male kindergarten teachers should be bashed this way.”

OK, fine. So I’ll toss it to you, what percentage of male kindergarten teachers do you think are homos?


26 posted on 10/11/2009 8:50:22 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: P-Marlowe
He was the Captain of a ship. If you were not "mean and bossy" with a crew of half starved drunken sailors you would find yourself being fed to the sharks and your ships sold to pirates. If your crew did not fear you, then you had a lot to fear from your crew.

You mean the crew couldn't file complaints with their union rep., or bring a suit with OSHA? What about the guys with hooks for hands, didn't the captains make special accomodations for them under the ADA? Didn't Ferdinand and Isabella have a Commission against Discrimination to ensure 'diversity' on their ships?

One of the many reasons liberals stink as history teachers is that they subconsciously (or maybe not so subconsciously) impose their 'values' on times past instead of stopping to think about why something was the way it was.
27 posted on 10/11/2009 8:51:25 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When the riders in the cart outnumber those pulling the cart, the cart stops moving. My back hurts.)
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To: Right Wing Assault
I wonder how "Captain" Obama would have done.

He wouldn't have made it out of the harbor.

28 posted on 10/11/2009 8:53:11 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: reaganaut1

Why people continue to send their children to these indoctrination centers is a mystery to me. It can’t be for any educational value.


29 posted on 10/11/2009 9:00:50 AM PDT by rbbeachkid (The ONLY ones able to fix the economy - Small Business Owners!)
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To: reaganaut1
I have never understood why the disease thing didn't work both ways.

Shouldn't European sailors have carried back diseases Europeans had no immunity for that would of devastated the population there also?

30 posted on 10/11/2009 9:02:32 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: reaganaut1
Children were ALWAYS taught that Columbus discovered America by accident.

Duh, they aren't called Indians for nothing!

31 posted on 10/11/2009 9:03:35 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: reaganaut1
Much of this anti-white male material comes from very popular books such as, Lies My Teacher Told Me, by James Loewen. Loewen teaches "Racial Studies" at his college and so his view of American history is that everything done by white males was racist. He will select anecdotes that support his thesis and then imply that all white people were this way all the time. This is the brainwashing that public school kids are getting today.
32 posted on 10/11/2009 9:05:41 AM PDT by DeweyCA
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''In their own verbiage, he was a bad guy,'' teacher Laurie Crawford said.

She "said"? Shouldn't that be "she verbalized"? With English like that, I'm sure she's a cracker-jack teacher.

33 posted on 10/11/2009 9:13:15 AM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: rbbeachkid
Why people continue to send their children to these indoctrination centers is a mystery to me. It can’t be for any educational value.
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Certainly you have read some of the excuses used by so-called conservatives here on Free Republic.

34 posted on 10/11/2009 9:15:52 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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''And we talked about how he was very, very mean, very bossy.''

Can't wait until they get to Lincoln, LBJ, Carter, Klinton and . . . . oh, yeah, leftist revolutionary hero Barack Hussein Obama!!

35 posted on 10/11/2009 9:17:33 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: reaganaut1
Not even the two Italian kids were defending Columbus in class the other day when I brought it up.

Got a problem with the word "discover", okay, no problem.
Got a problem with the "discovery" itself, you have a big problem, kids. Almost wanted to call them fools for being taken in. Doesn't matter if the Chinese, Vikings or the Celts had been here before that, the history of the World changed with Columbus's voyage. That's all there is to it.

36 posted on 10/11/2009 9:17:58 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Obi-Wan Palin: Strike her down and she shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.)
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To: reaganaut1

FYI, Christopher Columbus was not Captain Stubing and his ships were not the “Love Boat”, “The Good Ship Lollypop” and “The Queen Mary”. Most sailors in those times were not exactly model citizens. Captains of ships in those days were taskmasters and were sometimes cruel as were the members of their crews. How can teachers justify judging Columbus in the late 1400s by 21st century standards?


37 posted on 10/11/2009 9:28:38 AM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf the unborn)
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To: cydcharisse
If not Columbus, it would have been another European, which was inevitable.

Who would be equally vilified today...A

A technologically superior culture replaced a primitive one.

When some doofus starts the crap about what happened, I ask them, "What would have happened, if the 'Black Death' really depopulated Europe, and the Moslems moved in, sailed west, and reached the shores of the Americas? Or Chinese, coming from the east?"

The fact is, that the indigenes were doomed the moment any advanced civilization encountered them. Neolithic technology just doesn't support the kind of population base to hold large areas of land, and the resources thereon...

the infowarrior

38 posted on 10/11/2009 9:44:52 AM PDT by infowarrior
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Columbus was also sent to spread Christianity, oh yeah we can’t mention that either.


39 posted on 10/11/2009 9:52:54 AM PDT by ToKillaMockingbird
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To: P-Marlowe
Question for the nitwits. If it was not Columbus who blundered into America, but the Spanish, who arrived first, what kind of treatment would the natives received?
40 posted on 10/11/2009 9:53:25 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (Leyte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
"...Columbus’ voyage west was to get around the Islamic countries blocking the way to Chinese goods....

Too bad Columbus didn't bring his GPS, or did he but it was Made In China so it probably broke. Has anyone checked the crews' emails to see how mean and bossy 'lumbus was?

41 posted on 10/11/2009 9:55:49 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: ANGGAPO

Good point. de Soto wasn’t known for his pleasant demeanor.


42 posted on 10/11/2009 9:58:52 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: reaganaut1
"You don't hear people using the world "discovery" anymore like they used to. "Columbus discovers America." Because how could he discover America if there were already people living here?"

How about Reunification Day? The lands of the western hemisphere were reunified with the lands of the eastern hemisphere.

43 posted on 10/11/2009 9:59:00 AM PDT by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot children are in charge!)
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To: reaganaut1

I’m betting that nowhere in these lessons is anything about how the Aztecs who were living in the Americas when Columbus and the evil Europeans landed probably got where they were by conquering and slaughtering who ever happened to be living there before the Aztecs came.


44 posted on 10/11/2009 10:02:52 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: reaganaut1

You forgot the BARF alert.

Happy Columbus Day.


45 posted on 10/11/2009 10:57:54 AM PDT by khnyny (Obama has just been pawned by the "international" Nobel Prize Committee)
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To: raptor29

“OK, fine. So I’ll toss it to you, what percentage of male kindergarten teachers do you think are homos?”

There’s got to be one that’s not, if you look hard enough.


46 posted on 10/11/2009 11:15:26 AM PDT by BobL
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To: reaganaut1

American kids are being trained by communist cadres and Useful Idiots to despise their nation, which results in a-holes like Obama getting elected.

This article is a case in point.


47 posted on 10/11/2009 11:30:12 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (w)
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To: P-Marlowe

The crews of his ships were not easy to control...and he had the drawback of being a foreigner. I ran across a quote once (maybe from Bartolome de Las Casas) to the effect that the Archangel Gabriel would have had a hard time keeping Columbus’ men under control.


48 posted on 10/11/2009 11:50:49 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: raptor29

Exactly. Would the world be better off if the US had remained in the 15th century (like most of the Middle East)? God had a plan for this nation, we’ve been a blessing to nations and cultures, despite what the revisionists say.


49 posted on 10/11/2009 11:52:46 AM PDT by Reddy
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To: Reddy

Exactly. Plus, the added benefit of ridding the continent of cannibalism..........


50 posted on 10/11/2009 12:18:15 PM PDT by raptor29
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