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Shootings and solidarity: a very problematic case (Lithuanian father killed an alleged pedophile)
Wonderland ^ | October 8 2009

Posted on 10/11/2009 11:01:53 AM PDT by lizol

Shootings and solidarity: a very problematic case

Two murders shocked my hometown Kaunas. When I heard that a judge was murdered, I thought, 'Mafia shootouts - here they go again'... We have more or less forgotten about them since the 90s. However, the case proved to be quite different. It provokes thousands of comments on news portals every day now.

Apparently, almost a year ago, or so they say, the judge, the other victim and the judge's colleague were accused of child molesting by Drasius Kedys, the father of the child concerned, and he is now the key suspect.

The suspect, whose name means 'brave' in Lithuanian, legally kept a gun. He was divorced, and didn't have the custody of the child. Yet when he or his mother heard the stories the child told, the father tried all available means to open a legal case against the judges - to no avail. Facing resistance within the system, he addressed the media, and his cause was presented to the public. It's a bit more problematic than the father would like it to seem - he himself objected to 10-day psychiatric monitoring of his child. He said this is due to his fears that the judges would put pressure on both the medical experts and the child.

As the case was still 'frozen', he is now believed to have committed an act of desperation - he shot down one of the judges and the child's aunt, whom he accuses of 'supplying' young children to the judges. Nothing is proved yet, and there is no evidence to close the case or label anybody 'pedophile' or anything (let's not forget the presumption of innocence), but one thing is clear: there was resistance within the system to the opening of the legal case, and there are grounds to believe that this is due to the factual impunity of judges. They are also immune to media pressure as they are not elected.

What is interesting is that the police reports that hardly any citizens called to indicate the whereabouts of the suspect. One out of three or four of those who did call reported seeing him in the old town - that would be very brave of a suspected murderer. In other famous murder cases, the police would get thousands of phone calls. Comments in online portals show a huge wave of solidarity with this 'lonely fighter against the system'. Most people would recall their own bad experiences with the judiciary - or at least reading about their corruption. It doesn't feel as if this, I would even say, act of terrorism is romanticised. It rather feels that it expresses and embodies the anger and frustration that people feel over not having their rights properly defended. Therefore people empathise with the suspect. Even more people will now admit that physical violence is the only means of getting through the complex layers of the system, and this is scary.

This event reminds me of a case in Russia, when a man brought his wife to hospital and was made to wait as the staff expected a bribe. The wife died, the man went home, took a gun, shot down each one of the staff that refused to treat his wife, and killed himself.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: lithuania; pedophilia
Drasius Kedys




1 posted on 10/11/2009 11:01:53 AM PDT by lizol
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2 posted on 10/11/2009 11:02:39 AM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

I can understand this.


3 posted on 10/11/2009 11:15:26 AM PDT by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: umgud

Something out of the old west.


4 posted on 10/11/2009 11:20:57 AM PDT by rstrahan
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To: lizol

I used to go to a particular deli every day, and after four or five years of being a regular customer, the owner, who worked the cash register, would sometimes talk politics with me when no other customers were waiting. Depending on conditions, these conversations might be just a few seconds long, or, sometimes, several minutes long.

She was a lady in her 60s, and came to this country as a child right after WWII. She was from Macedonia, and pretty much a hard-core conservative.

One time, as I was checking out, there was a story on the radio news about a child molester who had been arrested for a second time. As it became my turn to pay, our eyes met. She said to me, quietly, “in my country, that guy... one night the men of our village would have taken care of him. He would have just... disappeared.” She gave a very slight but unmistakable emphasis to the word “men.”


5 posted on 10/11/2009 11:33:32 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Without the second, the rest are just politicians BS.)
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To: Steely Tom

IMHO That is how it should be done. Justice, swift, sure, final.


6 posted on 10/11/2009 12:09:31 PM PDT by snowtigger (It ain't what you shoot, it's what you hit...)
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To: lizol

This crap IS TYPICAL IN LIBERAL INFESTED LAWYER/JUDGE AREAS.

They protect pedophiles, prostitution and all kinds of stuff. This is the Obamacare and hate crime protection for f@gs coming to a neighborhood near you.

Liberal sex exploitation fascism in AMerica is very real.


7 posted on 10/11/2009 12:28:38 PM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: snowtigger

It is the alleged part that worrys me.
If he was convicted, I would be the first to get a rope and hang the SOB from the nearest tree.
All pedophiles should be executed, after a lawful trial.
Just my 2 cents.


8 posted on 10/11/2009 1:05:09 PM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: lizol

Right now, if this happened in America, he would probably get second degree murder or manslaughter, depending on the jury. However, if the hate crimes law passes, killing (or even attacking) the gay abuser of your child would be termed a hate crime, with serious federal charges.


9 posted on 10/11/2009 1:46:15 PM PDT by sportutegrl (If liberals could do math, they would be conservatives.)
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To: Steely Tom
That story gives me goose bumps. That is the way it has to be, and we women and children are relying on men to protect us -- indeed, you are our ONLY protectors.

Americans have a right to keep and bear arms according to the 2nd Amendment, but to me, real men understand their responsibility to keep and bear arms. If a national emergency/disaster/chaos happened and all of the sudden a gang of a dozen or so very bad guys showed up with the aim of taking over the street where you live, and you know that the folks up the street have two beautiful little girls -- not so little now; you watched them grow up over the past five years as they walk past your house to the bus stop, and now they're lovely young teens -- those girls deserve to be defended. Those men who live in the houses on that street have the moral obligation to be armed. Without that, in perilous times of lawlessness, young girls and women end up at the mercy of murderous thugs. Weenie metro-sexual males who refuse to have a gun in the house or, worse, weenie pussy-whipped geldings who allow idiot shrew wives to dictate to them that they cannot have a gun in the house, will have a lot to answer for in their own hearts and to all of society in the event of such a scenario, which is certainly common enough in human history.

Ideally, women and girls, as well as boys, should know firearms basics, but since we're conservatives here, we don't like telling others what to do and what not to do -- and it is why real men, real conservatives, understand the responsibility to have arms.

10 posted on 10/11/2009 5:55:36 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: lizol

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11 posted on 10/12/2009 11:35:16 AM PDT by Nighttime in America
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To: Yorlik803

Did you read the story where it talked about how the father couldn’t get any help from the justice system because the... well, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and say “alleged”... scumbag was a judge and pretty much untouchable?

I think I’d do the same thing, if someone molested my child and was walking around free.


12 posted on 10/12/2009 11:38:35 AM PDT by JenB
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