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Teaching monsters (Obama's New Sodom)
American Thinker ^ | October 12, 2009 | Bob Weir

Posted on 10/12/2009 12:24:00 AM PDT by bogusname

I've always believed in the existence of monsters. During my 20 years as a cop in NYC, I met quite a few of them, many of whom may still be doing time in prisons around the country. However, they were the garden-variety type of monsters; murderers, rapists, armed robbers and other assorted thugs. But there's another, even lower, level of criminal that exists in communities all across America, even in some of our churches. The creature I'm referring to is the pedophile. A few years ago, I received a 6-page letter in the mail from a woman in East Cambridge, Massachusetts, who related the tragic story of her son's murder at the hands of 2 such creatures.

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Obama has to be stopped.
1 posted on 10/12/2009 12:24:00 AM PDT by bogusname
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To: bogusname

Agree with that...when?

I see this great country America disappear under my eyes and be turned into a fascist/marxist/islamist country and nobody is doing anything about it. Since 9/12 everybody is back on their couch and nothing or nobody is outthere fighting.

So?


2 posted on 10/12/2009 12:32:34 AM PDT by American Dream 246
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To: bogusname

Sorry, but this goes way beyond Obama. It’s a sign of cultural rot. The leftists tell us diversity and tolerance makes us strong, but it doesn’t. We are a very weak society to permit something as obscene as NAMBLA.


3 posted on 10/12/2009 12:35:07 AM PDT by CitizenUSA
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To: bogusname
How any marginally moral civilization can permit the existence of nambla is beyond me. It promotes raping and sodomizing children. A bunch of truly sick individuals get together and perpetuate some demented destructive world view.
4 posted on 10/12/2009 12:38:38 AM PDT by allmost
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To: bogusname

Obama needs to be stopped? How about more parents taking reponsibility for their kids safety.

Small children need their parents to pay attention to them, period. I got embroiled in an argument with others on FreeRepublic who thought it perfectly OK for their small children to open the front door to a stranger!! It doesn’t matter where you live - children have been taken from homes in all regions of this nation, even rural Idaho - city, country, suburban areas all are vulnerable to pedophiles.

No doubt the same people believe it is perfectly OK for a neighbor to be ‘friendly’ to their child, taking them out for meals or on trips. Pedophiles prey on the lonely kids.

Neither is acceptable parenting.

Children will not go looking for attention and acceptance from others outside a family, making it easy for child predators, if they are getting enough of both at home.

No, I don’t accept NAMBLA or Obama, but I know responsibility and caring for one’s children starts at home.


5 posted on 10/12/2009 12:46:07 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: SatinDoll

I agree 100%. That’s why I homeschooled my four kids. However, within my my own life time I’ve seen things change drastically for the worse. Adults used to act like adults and most people didn’t have to fear their neighbors. Immorality is at at an all time high and intstead of combatting these evils Obama is creating an environment where these types of individuals are not only protected but in some cases exalted.


6 posted on 10/12/2009 1:01:30 AM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: CitizenUSA

I think so too but should we kick the beast on leg or should we go straight for the head?


7 posted on 10/12/2009 1:04:11 AM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: American Dream 246

What have you been doing?


8 posted on 10/12/2009 1:06:43 AM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: bogusname

9 posted on 10/12/2009 1:06:52 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (AL GORE BETRAYED OUR PLANET - HE PLAYED ON OUR FEARS!!!)
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To: bogusname

Go for the nads...works everytime.


10 posted on 10/12/2009 1:06:56 AM PDT by Crim
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To: American Dream 246
so... THIS!
11 posted on 10/12/2009 1:10:10 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (AL GORE BETRAYED OUR PLANET - HE PLAYED ON OUR FEARS!!!)
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To: Crim

Hmm, alright I’ll adjust my aim.


12 posted on 10/12/2009 1:10:38 AM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: allmost
Please forgive my poor english. An proud American with an accent. Sorry to seem repetitive here but when do we make a move? Obama is where he is because the society is corrupt - duh...so when are we, the patriots - Christians and all decent people..all the one who seems to get everything wrong by being on the "morality" side - when do we start the fight? in the schools, in the street and everywhere we can. Teaparties are useless in front of fascism! They don't care at all. That will never stop them to do whatever they want.. The answer around here is 2010. Ok..for what? To vote for guys like graham or Collins who side with Obama??? What's the point? Like the rep in Maine? They will certainly not repair the damage and they are NOT stopping any laws or EO he is signing - they are not stopping the czars - acorn who will get funds again in a week and we are in bed with ALL our enemies and we attack our friends like Israel. The RINOs/traitors in congress??? They are doing NOTHING to protect our country. It's the twilight zone indeed. How come they can watch what's happening and not react for their country? It's beyond me. Or may be we are all nuts here at FR? So frankly 2010 or 2012 - if we can still have honest elections which I doubt after their census and the power of acorn - I am not jumping of excitement for these next elections. Of course I can still dream of President Palin. But first we need free elections - then we have to get rid of the RINO's - then we have to make sure the rep party will choose her...and then we have to win. Because third party seems so impossible. A lot of steps to jump.. Are we going to let them dictate their insane agenda to our children - friends - family? Let them erase even the very thought of God and the Constitution? We let them do that since 30 years and we did nothing - now we have a good eye opener with the one. So eyes open - are we now going to do something about it??? Remember: First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me.
a popular poem attributed to Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) about the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power We forgot 1933 - We even forgot September 11th. So if we are not capable of revolt now to save our country and freedom, then I suggest we stop whining and get on with our lives and start filling up your papers for your residency in New Zealand. OR WAKE UP AND FIGHT!!!
13 posted on 10/12/2009 1:11:02 AM PDT by American Dream 246
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To: American Dream 246
Please forgive my poor english. An proud American with an accent. Sorry to seem repetitive here but when do we make a move? Obama is where he is because the society is corrupt - duh...so when are we, the patriots - Christians and all decent people..all the one who seems to get everything wrong by being on the "morality" side - when do we start the fight? in the schools, in the street and everywhere we can. Teaparties are useless in front of fascism! They don't care at all. That will never stop them to do whatever they want.. The answer around here is 2010. Ok..for what? To vote for guys like graham or Collins who side with Obama??? What's the point? Like the rep in Maine? They will certainly not repair the damage and they are NOT stopping any laws or EO he is signing - they are not stopping the czars - acorn who will get funds again in a week and we are in bed with ALL our enemies and we attack our friends like Israel. The RINOs/traitors in congress??? They are doing NOTHING to protect our country. It's the twilight zone indeed. How come they can watch what's happening and not react for their country? It's beyond me. Or may be we are all nuts here at FR? So frankly 2010 or 2012 - if we can still have honest elections which I doubt after their census and the power of acorn - I am not jumping of excitement for these next elections. Of course I can still dream of President Palin. But first we need free elections - then we have to get rid of the RINO's - then we have to make sure the rep party will choose her...and then we have to win. Because third party seems so impossible. A lot of steps to jump Are we going to let them dictate their insane agenda to our children - friends - family? Let them erase even the very thought of God and the Constitution? We let them do that since 30 years and we did nothing - now we have a good eye opener with the one. So eyes open - are we now going to do something about it??? Remember: First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist; Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist; Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist; Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew; Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me. a popular poem attributed to Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) about the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power We forgot 1933 - We even forgot September 11th. So if we are not capable of revolt now to save our country and freedom, then I suggest we stop whining and get on with our lives and start filling up your papers for your residency in New Zealand. OR WAKE UP AND FIGHT!!!
14 posted on 10/12/2009 1:14:21 AM PDT by American Dream 246
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To: American Dream 246

Ok..second time I put my break and p and for some reason it does not work..please admin would you mind to put some paragraph there? First time it happens.

Thanks


15 posted on 10/12/2009 1:15:27 AM PDT by American Dream 246
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To: American Dream 246

looks like yer < br> is working in the first post.


16 posted on 10/12/2009 1:23:20 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Ifanationexpects tobe ignorantandfree,inastateofcivilization,itexpects whatneverwas andnever will be)
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To: American Dream 246
Don't think the Admin's gonna proofread you're post. I've done some doozies. :)

I'm not so sure that the problem is as much corruption of society as it is large scale ignorance. Ignorance of painful repetitive historical lessons. Ignorance of policy decisions and the circumstances surrounding them. Etc. An educated populace is a more capable populace. That's why leftists gear towards taking over the media and educational systems first. It leaves people in general with inadequate tools to make proper judgements. Garbage in, garbage out. The good thing (marginally) here is that all the lies and distortions in the world can't hide the train wreck that the current policies being implemented by the dem house, senate, and executive Branches inevitably create. People need to wake up. That alarm in the morning can be most unpleasant.
17 posted on 10/12/2009 1:29:46 AM PDT by allmost
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To: CitizenUSA
We are a very weak society

When I was growing up in the sixties, especially the early sixties, We had real neighborhoods, and stay at home moms. Everybody knew each other, especially all the moms. There was a sense of order, purpose, responsibility, etc., and everybody got along.

The interesting thing is, most everybody else was a different nationality. The people across from me were Canadian French. To my right was a Lebanese family, whose son was my best friend. Next to them was a Sicilian family whose son was my brothers best friend. Beyond them was an Italian family. Tom left there was a (Parisian) French family, Then a Polish family, and beyond that two Jewish families. All of them had kids, and we all played together, and nobody, ever, talked about race or nationality or anything like that, even though many of their parents spoke their respective native tongues. When I went over their houses I'd hear them speaking Polish, Italian, French, Hebrew/Yiddish, etc., but the interesting thing is, they had a sense of when and where to speak it, and it had nothing to do with shame. They understood certain things that people today do not. Oh, and I almost forgot....myself, I'm a typical American mutt. Mostly Irish, with a little Native American and quite possibly French thrown in, whose family doesn't speak a word of Gaelic.

This country has changed so much that I hardly recognize it...

18 posted on 10/12/2009 1:30:35 AM PDT by csense
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To: CitizenUSA

Wait a minute. Speak for yourself. I am not permitting NAMBLA, nor am I permitting ‘anything’ these Godless leftists are doing. There’s a huge difference between permitting something and not being able to prevent it (yet).

That rot is only coming from half ..or not “even” half of America. The other half is still Christian and conservative. Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater, cause we’re going to need every single person that is NOT part of this evil and slime, on our side.


19 posted on 10/12/2009 1:37:07 AM PDT by XenaLee
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To: American Dream 246
when do we start the fight? in the schools,
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Ultimately, we **must** aim to shut down every government school in this nation.

Government schools can NOT be reformed! They are working exactly as planned when they opened in the mid-1800s to early 1900s. Their goal from the beginning was to create a common class of compliant workers for the fascist state!

Government schools were a socialist scheme from the beginning. They are **still** a socialist scheme! Socialism can NOT be reformed!

Finally, since the first day a compulsory government school opened in the mid-1800s, children learn every day that it is OK for the government to take money from their neighbor to pay for something their parents want for free! One to three generations later we had the IRS, social security, FDR's New Deal, Johnson's Great Society, and every other socialist boondoggle since!

Socialism is evil! Government schools are socialism! Government schools are evil! It was only a matter of time that they would become as morally corrupt as they are. And.. Remember! Government schools can NOT be reformed because socialism can not be reformed!

20 posted on 10/12/2009 1:45:59 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: SatinDoll
No matter how careful a parent is things can happen. Yes, be very careful in this day and age, but most importantly pray for your love ones all the time. Only The LORD can ultimately protect us.

I believe the terrible blight on our society is pornography. Many people do not turn into criminal perverts because of it(but it harms them and their loved ones more than they can ever know), but there are many who cannot handle it. They become addicted and must go to ever deeper levels of it to get the same demented results. I think one would have to search high and low for a sexual criminal who does not indulge in much pornography.

Pornography by it's very nature degrades sexuality. It divorces sexual expression from being between two people who are expressing true love and turns it into a soulless function with the only purpose selfish pleasure. The one indulging in it knows only heartless sexual lust, not a person but an object whose only purpose is selfish satisfaction.

It trains the body to react to the wrong stimulus. Pornographers then exploit the users and push upon them more and more wicked forms of it. Soon the users' bodies, minds and souls are enslaved to evil acts of sexuality. After awhile the perpetrators are not any longer satisfied with only viewing degraded acts but must try them their selves.

As well as the actual pornography they are now entangled with hosts of demons out of hell whose jobs are to pressure them down into deeper and darker acts of wickedness.The Bible says that Satan comes to kill, steal and destroy. Pornography is one of hell's best tactics to degrade, damage and even kill.

It is time for decent people everywhere to have an outcry against pornography and the damage it does to individuals and relationships at every level of society. Right now it is becoming more accepted everyday. Many people talk about it like it is a normal part of life. It is one of the most wealthiest industries in The USA. We must take a stand against it or many more lives will be horribly changed and hurt. Innocent children are the most heart breaking victims of all. We need to stand in the gap and launch an all out campaign against it. If we don't we will continue to go on being shocked at how can anybody do such a thing while the main reason is right under our noses.

21 posted on 10/12/2009 1:47:48 AM PDT by Bellflower (If you are left DO NOT take the mark of the beast and be damned forever.)
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To: American Dream 246
The RINOs/traitors in congress??? They are doing NOTHING to protect our country
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They don't even have the testosterone to demand that Obama prove he was a natural born citizen. They didn't have the gonads before the election and they don't now!

Weenies! ALL OF THEM!!

22 posted on 10/12/2009 1:48:12 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: American Dream 246
 
The questions and issues raised are valid ones indeed - I think it is simply because the depraved communista chaos is still at a distance, still a bogeyman story to most citizens, which has yet to come to their neighborhoods and tangibly manifest itself at a personal level in the worst ways. I am not talking about the credit crunches, foreclosures, unemployment, all the troubles of economics. Since Obama has gotten in, job #1 almost to the exclusion of all else has been in seizing and being in control of the key elements that make this nation functional as a free nation, the upper echelons of commerce, energy, health, finance, law, industry and such. They are eventually going to work their way all the way down to us, the 'lowly' citizens. They're going to at some point - they have to. This is where it gets in your face, where it comes down to every official, whether elected or appointed, from local to county, on up to state level, who will have a choice to face. The choice will be, to do right by their family, friends, neighbors, constituents, fellow citizens, or be a flunky and stooge and obediently carry out work on behalf of the marxists in distant Washington D.C.. When the time comes it shall be interesting to see who has the integrity to defy the depraved, to stand with and for the citizens, or take their thirty pieces of silver and thereafter remain content to be a party to and a participant in the diabolical destruction of a nation and it's culture of liberty.
 
That's just my two cents - folk like you and I are some of the few that are truly aware. There has been a "shift" of sorts in the mental posture of individuals. I see it, I feel it - things are not as they were, not the same. Perhaps others have felt it too, but have no comprehension as to what "it" truly is. Around where I am, there is an air of tension, apprehensive expectation, anxiety like a coiled spring. The intensity may ebb and flow, but it is there, all the time. It's not a great way to live, and not a good place to be if the coiled spring is let loose with sudden force. 
 
 

23 posted on 10/12/2009 2:21:32 AM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: bogusname

Neck first, go for the jugular! (the life blood being taxes and economics)


24 posted on 10/12/2009 2:56:31 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: mdmathis6

In theory the Federal government could grow with out taxes. They could just print money. The tax part would come from the devaluation of the money/wealth in our hands.

No different than every year FedStateTown gov takes a third, or more directly. The Fed can, and does take it indirectly now.


25 posted on 10/12/2009 3:02:15 AM PDT by Leisler (It's going to be a hard, long winter)
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To: mdmathis6

LOL Sounds good to me.


26 posted on 10/12/2009 3:03:25 AM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: allmost
How any marginally moral civilization can permit the existence of nambla is beyond me. It promotes raping and sodomizing children. A bunch of truly sick individuals get together and perpetuate some demented destructive world view.

This kind of perversion and evil is not new to mankind...it has always been around--lurking in the shadows.

Moral humans do not permit evil to exist but are helpless in killing it (we can destroy it in one place only to have it pop up somewhere else).

In this country, there still exists a moral civilization, but it is in a battle for leadership with those who are either blind to evil or--gasp--even support it.

We are certainly in a war...but this is no time for negative thinking. IMO, we need to be thankful that we are chosen for this war and thankful for our role in it...and keep on fighting in whatever way we can.

We know how it ends...God and His Goodness will prevail.

27 posted on 10/12/2009 3:04:40 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (For good judgment ask...What would Obama do? Then do the opposite!)
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To: allmost

I am not even sure its ignorance. I would LIKE to think that it is because the ignorant can be taught.

This is much worse. They have been deliberately mistaught about our history and what it means to be an American and to respect the freedoms we have, the ones that were bequeathed to us.

We lost control of our schools and are now paying the price for it. Our young do not know what we knew. They have been taught to be collectivists, to look for government to be their solution and to be ashamed of the accomplishments of the American past.

Its disgusting.

I cry for my grandkids.


28 posted on 10/12/2009 3:46:56 AM PDT by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero since 1-20-09!)
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To: bogusname

A pervert is in the White House masquerading as a President.


29 posted on 10/12/2009 3:51:46 AM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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To: Adder
Its disgusting. I cry for my grandkids.

My oldest son is 16. I worry quite a bit about what kind of situation these scum, yes scum, in power are morphing this society into. He's too young to vote, and too old to avoid the wreck.


30 posted on 10/12/2009 3:58:07 AM PDT by allmost
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To: CitizenUSA; bogusname
Sorry, but this goes way beyond Obama. It’s a sign of cultural rot. The leftists tell us diversity and tolerance makes us strong, but it doesn’t. We are a very weak society to permit something as obscene as NAMBLA.

We've learned nothing from the fall of the Roman Empire and the British Empire. I wonder if anyone will learn from our fall.

31 posted on 10/12/2009 4:08:09 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: bogusname

Attention any NAMBLA members:

If you are anxious to see what the bowels of Hell look like, announce your proclivities and just try to justify your intentions in my presence. I will be more than happy to send you on your way. I will need no other justification for taking your life other than the fact that you are in my sphere of influence.

Now then, any of you creeps want to tell me again what you want to do to my grandsons?


32 posted on 10/12/2009 5:04:41 AM PDT by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: bogusname

When will everybody quit whining and act? We have the power of the purse. You want to change the status quo real fast, shut off the funds.
You need guts for that, of course. And some personal planning.
But it’s the modern equivalent of putting down your pen, picking up your musket and going out all steely-eyed to do what needs to be done.
Meanwhile, many of you still herd the kids onto public school buses with a blissful smile, and think you are not part of the problem.


33 posted on 10/12/2009 5:08:57 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( If you have kids, you have no right of privacy that the govt can't flick off your shoulder.)
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To: Rearden

I’m with you. Let me know if you need any help.


34 posted on 10/12/2009 5:17:05 AM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: Grizzled Bear

A few will learn from our fall, but only after terrible wars and struggles have gone on, perhaps resulting in freedom again somewhere in the world for some people. Then, when those people have built something great for their society, the parasites will, once again, begin their push to take what others have built for the sake of power, money and enslavement. It is the evil that mankind is heir to without God and that is why the diabolical among us work so hard to remove any knowledge of God from our way of life. The good news is that God is not dead and will make his move sooner or later. After that comes the judgment...


35 posted on 10/12/2009 5:20:32 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: bogusname

.22 caliber Walther PPK with suppresser = $900

half-a-dozen, or so, .22 LR bullets = $1

removing a child predator from the surface of the planet = PRICELESS


36 posted on 10/12/2009 5:30:22 AM PDT by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: Rearden

Now that’s a commercial I’d like to see.


37 posted on 10/12/2009 5:37:25 AM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: American Dream 246

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me.

It is true that history repeats itself. Who then will come to save US. The Chinese? It sure as hell won’t be the Germans, Italians, and/or the French.


38 posted on 10/12/2009 5:40:48 AM PDT by chainsaw (If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- P.J..)
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To: SatinDoll
Small children need their parents to pay attention to them, period.

There is a young boy about 8 or 9 new to my subdivision who I always see riding his bike alone because there aren't any other kids to play with.

One day I was taking batting practice in the street in front of my house (wiffle balls and batting tee)and no traffic. Johnny kept riding his bike by me watching so finally I asked him his name and if he wanted to shag the fly balls for me. He said sure so I told him to go home and get his glove and ASK YOU MOTHER IF ITS OK......

He came back a few minutes later with his glove so I guess it was ok.

I asked John if he played baseball and he said no. I thought that a little strange because every little kid likes to play catch or bat balls. So it occured to me that maybe there isn't a father figure in his life to encourage him to do those boys things.

My sisters once suggested I volunteer for Big Brothers but I told them there was no way would I put myself in a position to have some young boy make a claim to his mother about some alleged misbehavior on my part.

Its unfortunate but thats also the reality of life today........

39 posted on 10/12/2009 5:44:29 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Who's your Long Legged MacDaddy?)
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To: Adder
I cry for my grandkids.

Give me a break.

What a bunch of sniveling defeatists. The answer isn't to cry for your grandkids, homeschool your kids, or lament the death of America.

The answer is to man-up and take the fight to the socialists! It's no wonder some of the public schools have gotten to the shape they're in!

You can't fix the problem by running away, you can't fix the problem by raising you kids in a bubble. You may raise conservative, well-educated kids, but they'll be outnumbered 3 to 1 at the ballot box by government-raised socialists.

You need to stand and fight, and you need to start now. You need to challenge the school curriculum, read the textbooks, and teach your kids to be vocal and unapologetic.

I know from first-hand experience that this isn't easy, but it's worth it. It's not fun, but it's what needs to be done.

Good God people, stand and fight!
40 posted on 10/12/2009 6:01:14 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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To: SatinDoll

You have embraced the spirit of fear. The chances of your child being seduced by an adult pedophile who is a stranger is very very small. They are more likely to be molested by a peer.


41 posted on 10/12/2009 6:05:17 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: bogusname

This stuff has always existed. It’s just that now it’s out in the open and considered “OK” by the same types of people who always thought it was “OK”. In the past they had to hide it in the garage.

As I see it (in my dottage) the real problem is that conservatives have chosen to leave the stage. There need to be many, many, many more conservative private schools to syphon off the attendees from public schools, where “anything goes” is not only accepted but actually part of the required curriculum.

A strong and significant conservative private sshool system could stem the coming tide of having a federally mandated curriculum that includes this junk, for all schools including privately funded schools. There is strength in numbers.

You young conservatives out there need to get together and take over school boards and local city councils.

What has happened over the past three decades is that liberals, with their customary big, loud mouths, have frightened off the more reflective conservatives who don’t want to fight (understandably; no one really likes confrontation). Consequently, lots of mini Nancy Pelousi’s have taken over many school boards and city councils because they stepped into the gap.

And, as a result, you have millions of children being exposed to this stuff.

There, that’s my old-folk’s rant for the day. Whew! Now I can go take another nap...


42 posted on 10/12/2009 6:26:18 AM PDT by Happyinmygarden (Yes, actually, I have pretty much seen and heard it all before...)
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To: wintertime

When this country was founded, the church was the center of a community. And our founders, in the first amendment, said that the federal government can never intrude on that relationship.

Had they been writing that constitution now, they would put the same restriction on the education of our young people - the federal government has no place in that setting.


43 posted on 10/12/2009 6:35:22 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: LearnsFromMistakes
the federal government has no place in that setting.
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They would have put this in their state constitutions, as well as county,city, and town charters as well.

If our Founding Fathers could see the effects of government interference in education ( regardless of how local) they would be horrified.

Fundamentally, it is impossible to have a religiously, politically, or culturally neutral education. When one neighbor can use the government ( regardless of how local) to force another neighbor to fund their philosophic worldview, then we have tyranny of the voting mob over the hearts and minds of children and their parents.

Government schools are a First Amendment and freedom of conscience abomination!

44 posted on 10/12/2009 6:44:31 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: Rearden

We just need a state legislature to pass a law that the victim’s association with NAMBLA can be used as a defense in any murder case. Let the jury decide if they want to protect these monsters. There are a lot of states where to good guy’s chances would be pretty good.


45 posted on 10/12/2009 6:58:50 AM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts soooo good!)
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To: American Dream 246
No offense, but you need some HTML practice. It's not just about 'break' tags, but paragraphs and other HTML formatting too.

Free Republic has the 'HTML Sandbox' where you can practice writing HTML Code. HTML Sandbox 2008

(Again - NO OFFENSE MEANT. We all go through the HTML learning process. Heck, some long time FReepers still can't post a picture using HTML Code.)

46 posted on 10/12/2009 7:03:36 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: American Dream 246
Quit feeding into liberal fantasies.

We are “fighting back” - we're taking on the liars on with FOX and Beck and Limbaugh and Tea Parties and all the legal ways available to us.

Go gin up violence among the liberals - that's who dems are - with their union goons and ACORN thugs. IT'S NOT WHO WE ARE.

47 posted on 10/12/2009 7:18:23 AM PDT by GOPJ (Nominated:Chamberlain, Hitler, Stalin. Winners: Arafat,Carter, Gore, Obama.(Nobel Prizes of Shame))
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To: Bellflower

“No matter how careful a parent is things can happen.”

The above is true. The only caveat I would add to it is that many “things” can be avoided by due diligence and being suspicious of other people, including relatives. I like what Reagan said;”Trust but verify.” After all, it is children we’re speaking of protecting in this instance. Children cannot be let loose until we’re sure thay’ve learned the habits that will hopefully keep them safe AND socially acceptable to the majority of polite society.

Pornography: there is a difference between XXX porn and erotica. Entire volumes have been written about the differences between the two genres. Let it suffice here to say that erotica is not always naked and does not involve blatant sexual activity, while hard-core pornography involves sexual activity blatantly portrayed, usually close up.

Erotica includes Victoria’s Secret catalogues, a favorite of young boys (and mom gets them in the mail!), and Playboy magazine (which sometimes skates along a razor’s edge between the two genre, in my opinion.) It is generally prevalent in advertising and entertainment media so it has lost the ability to titillate as the public becomes jaded.

That is where pornography and its depictions creep in (I’m not going to provide descriptions - we know it when we see it).

Hard porn unfortunately has many, many sites on the WWW which is horrifying since most children know more about computers than the parents who try to lock out those sites.

I agree with you 100% about pornography. It is a curse but one that has existed since humans began creating designs and portraying human activities. During the late 18th and early 19th centuries archaeologist began unearthing the villas buried by Mt. Vesuvius’s eruptions during the 1st century AD and were shocked to discover that household furniture was constructed with pieces of wood carved to resemble the erect male penis! Westerners were scandalized to discover entire temple complexes in southern Asia covered with copulating couples carved in stone, and so on.

But we know better now. Hard core porn is unhealthy as it seperates monogamous relationships from sexual need. We must return to teaching our children that marriage is the righteous way for adults to behave.


48 posted on 10/12/2009 2:35:29 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: bogusname

Bad stuff.


49 posted on 10/14/2009 12:54:23 PM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the World Dances With You!)
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