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Itís a Fork, Itís a Spoon, Itís a ... Weapon?
New York Times ^ | October 11, 2009 | Ian Urbina

Posted on 10/12/2009 5:54:24 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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Judging from the comments section, even NYT readers can see this is idiotic.

The bright side is that Zachary will benefit from 45 days of homeschooling.

1 posted on 10/12/2009 5:54:24 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

It’s the end of the world, as we know it......


2 posted on 10/12/2009 5:56:05 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR.....Monthly Donors Wanted.)
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To: reaganaut1

This is what you get when you let morons run your schools for the benefit of the NEA.


3 posted on 10/12/2009 5:56:19 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Without the second, the rest are just politicians BS.)
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4 posted on 10/12/2009 5:56:42 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: reaganaut1

Good thing he didn’t have a No. 2 pencil. Those are deadly in the right hands. :)


5 posted on 10/12/2009 5:57:13 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: reaganaut1

We have lost of friggen minds and sense of ourselves. The USA a great country that once was...


6 posted on 10/12/2009 5:57:59 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: reaganaut1

Zero-tolerance = Zero thought = Zero’s Administration..............


7 posted on 10/12/2009 5:58:35 AM PDT by Red Badger (The Zero has more airtime than Michael Jordan...........)
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To: reaganaut1

Good grief, if you can use it in Scouts you should be allowed to have it at a school too.


8 posted on 10/12/2009 5:58:51 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: reaganaut1

The really dumb-funny thing about all these stories is that the stupid zero-tolerance liberals involved have such a narrow paradigm about what a weapon is that they totally disregard thousands of items around them that could easily be used to maim or kill...


9 posted on 10/12/2009 5:59:36 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (The emperor has no pedigree.)
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To: reaganaut1

“Government is not reason. It is not eloquence. Government is force; like fire it is a dangerous servant — and a fearful master.” —George Washington


10 posted on 10/12/2009 6:01:26 AM PDT by celano
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To: Steely Tom

My take on this is that the school said that more blacks were disciplined for bringing weapons to school. I think this punishment is designed to show the world that the school isn’t biased, so they discipline a white student for fear of a demonstration by ACORN.


11 posted on 10/12/2009 6:02:24 AM PDT by MondoQueen
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To: reaganaut1
Many studies indicate that African-Americans were several times more likely to be suspended or expelled than other students for the same offenses.

I can't believe this is literally the whole story. Sounds more to me like the black kids (because of upbringing issues) were more likely to be threatening violence with said items. Everything seemed fair until the likes of Al Sharpton jumped in.

12 posted on 10/12/2009 6:02:32 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: reaganaut1

Next banned weapons: Scissors, rocks, and even sharped edge papers.


13 posted on 10/12/2009 6:03:45 AM PDT by Wiz
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To: reaganaut1

And these morons get paid taxpayer money to do these brilliant things.

No thought required. No brain required. You have to wonder what actual purpose they serve short of being a taxpayer funded jobs program.


14 posted on 10/12/2009 6:04:59 AM PDT by DB
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To: celano

How do people eat at this school? Do they eat soup with their hands?


15 posted on 10/12/2009 6:05:21 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: reaganaut1

“Spurred in part by the Columbine and Virginia Tech shootings, many school districts around the country adopted zero-tolerance policies on the possession of weapons on school grounds.”

Which is what those two campuses had, and the CAUSE of so many deaths!


16 posted on 10/12/2009 6:06:59 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

the Joker?


17 posted on 10/12/2009 6:07:38 AM PDT by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: reaganaut1

Government schools are evil.


18 posted on 10/12/2009 6:07:42 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: massgopguy

When sporks are outlawed,
only outlaws will have sporks.


19 posted on 10/12/2009 6:08:09 AM PDT by ozark hilljilly (Ignore us at your peril.)
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To: DB

You could probably blame lawyers and our litigious society,

but you can also call all the school administrators

COWARDS

for not having the guts to say that a cubscout from a responsible family with a camping knife/utensil

is DIFFERENT

from the kid of a crackho with no father bringing a knife to school to “cut some cracka”.


20 posted on 10/12/2009 6:08:47 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: massgopguy

Plastic utensils like they might have in airport security areas?


21 posted on 10/12/2009 6:09:01 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: reaganaut1

There needs to be a separation of school and state.


22 posted on 10/12/2009 6:10:52 AM PDT by Durus (The People have abdicated our duties and anxiously hopes for just two things, "Bread and Circuses")
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To: ozark hilljilly

Runcible spoons.


23 posted on 10/12/2009 6:10:53 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: ozark hilljilly
You can have my hobo tool when you pry it from my cold dead fingers...


24 posted on 10/12/2009 6:12:11 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: reaganaut1

Homeschool.


25 posted on 10/12/2009 6:12:58 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: reaganaut1

It all makes sense if you’ve watched MSNBC’s “Lockdown” program. Prisoners in the joint can make lethal weapons from all sorts of tools and utensils.

I guess if you see the schools as training grounds for the penitentiary- little Zachary is just getting early education.


26 posted on 10/12/2009 6:14:16 AM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Plastic utensils can be turned into pretty nasty cutting and stabbing weapons in creative hands.

Heck, we turned our Popsicle sticks into “knives” by sharpening them on concrete, when I was young. We, however, wouldn't think to actually hurt anyone with them!

27 posted on 10/12/2009 6:14:21 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: Joe 6-pack

How do you push your peas up onto your fork with your knife like you’re not supposed to if you’re using that thing?


28 posted on 10/12/2009 6:17:15 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: reaganaut1

The principle who suspended this kid is the fat little toad third from the left. She apparently has no problem finding her own fork.

29 posted on 10/12/2009 6:18:52 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Steely Tom

>> This is what you get when you let morons run your schools for the benefit of the NEA.

Tell you what... particularly in big urban areas there is an army of doped-up bimbo soccer mommies that are 100% behind the NEA in this nonsense.


30 posted on 10/12/2009 6:19:11 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Homeschool. While they allow it.

Eventually, the homeschool movement is going to get so big that those with Michelle's point of view

Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed.

They will eventually determine that homeschoolers are DANGEROUS because they are "creating a parallel society" (German courts have already ruled this way).

They will make it more and more difficult, with the goal of legally eliminating it. I (and they) know that if they do it all at once, it's one of those lines in the sand where the shooting starts.

31 posted on 10/12/2009 6:20:47 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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"There is no parent who wants to get a phone call where they hear that their child no longer has two good seeing eyes because there was a scuffle and someone pulled out a knife," said George Evans, the president of the Christina district’s school board."

Of course he has no actual incidents like this to reference.

We will never regain the country until we eliminate the labor unions from the school system, wrest control from pussified, leftist, one-world "Educators" and return our schools to control of dedicated, well balanced, teachers whose only agenda is to teach children instead of indoctrinating them with leftist dogma.

32 posted on 10/12/2009 6:22:31 AM PDT by Iron Munro (I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take a beating.)
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To: reaganaut1

If we take slop, run it through a blender, and serve it to the kids in a paper cup (without a straw - which could be used to poke someone’s eye out) perhaps that would pass the zero tolerance test.


33 posted on 10/12/2009 6:23:52 AM PDT by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot children are in charge!)
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To: Nervous Tick
Each of the utensils slides apart and can be handled separately.

The designer won the Nobel Peas Prize!

34 posted on 10/12/2009 6:24:05 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: reaganaut1

Simple solution... just label the kid as being “at risk” and then he can pretty much do whatever he wants.


35 posted on 10/12/2009 6:26:05 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: stinkerpot65

I’m glad to see that Dolores Umbridge is still able to find work...


36 posted on 10/12/2009 6:26:30 AM PDT by Sloth (For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of the International Olympic Committee.)
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To: Iron Munro

There used to be fights, dare I say “back in the 50’s”, where two boys would fight, wrestle, and tussel about,

and NO ONE DREAMED OF “PULLING A KNIFE”.

Because it was WRONG. The perp would be perpetually isolated from EVERYONE else for pulling such and egregious breach of decency.

But, we can’t have “shame” these days, you know, too “damaging to the psyche” etc, and of course, standards of right and wrong are just too “ethnocentric” and judgemental.


37 posted on 10/12/2009 6:26:42 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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This is all about the “educators” taking as little responsibility as they can. This way they can blame the policy. They don't have to stand up and take some heat for their decisions.

That way they don't get in to trouble for cases like this and if something bad happens “Well it wasn't in the policy”

Bunch of weasels! (Sorry no insult to weasels intended.

38 posted on 10/12/2009 6:27:03 AM PDT by Syntyr (Mace, Kirk, Thomson, Griffin, Scusa, Martin, Gallegos, Hart - Remember the fallen of Kamdesh)
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39 posted on 10/12/2009 6:27:10 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: glorgau

That’s the deal, though,

since he is in a stable family with caring parents,

it’s “not fair”, and he has to be brought down a notch to the same level as the “at risk” kids.


40 posted on 10/12/2009 6:27:27 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: MrB
"creating a parallel society"

How can it be a parallel society when the home schooled are better educated?

41 posted on 10/12/2009 6:29:11 AM PDT by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot children are in charge!)
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To: metmom

6 years old. 45 day suspension. For a Cub Scout utensil.

Ping.


42 posted on 10/12/2009 6:31:09 AM PDT by JenB
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To: reg45

We’re parallel, just further up the X-axis :D


43 posted on 10/12/2009 6:32:02 AM PDT by JenB
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To: reaganaut1
I suppose pencils and pens could be used as weapons too. I wonder if they are banned as well.
44 posted on 10/12/2009 6:32:07 AM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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I’m surprised they allow kids to drive to high school anymore.

I can’t think of any more deadly weapon that can be used for mass destruction and death than a kid deciding to point his car at a group of jocks that just stuffed his head in a toilet and press down on the gas pedal. One turn of the wheel and pressing down on the gas changes a car from a tool to a weapon, just like a gun it’s all about intent.

I really shouldn’t post this because some idiot administrator will think about it some and decide that I’m right.

Intent has to be factored in to some of these incidents like this, which it seems isn’t allowed anymore. They say that blacks are three times as likely to be punished than others for the same crime, are they comparing the kids who are a boyscout and have their jackknife in a coat pocket with the gang member who carries a switchblade? It all comes down to intent, and that’s where the race card always gets played every time.


45 posted on 10/12/2009 6:36:50 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: reg45

A better educated group would, by definition, BE a “parallel society”.

What the German courts were upset about, though, was the “isolation”, ie, the non-exposure to worldly values, that the homeschoolers were experiencing.

That is EXACTLY WHY most homeschoolers do it.

James 4:4
You adulterous people, don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.


46 posted on 10/12/2009 6:38:40 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: MrB

When I went to school no self respecting boy walked around without a penknife or, preferably a jack knife.

You never knew when you might have to open a can of pork and beans, build an emergency shelter, whittle a toy flute or fend off a mountain lion, a dragon or a band of godless commies.


47 posted on 10/12/2009 6:44:22 AM PDT by Iron Munro (I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take a beating.)
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To: reaganaut1

Oh no! Where will he get his homosexual indoctrination for those 45 days?


48 posted on 10/12/2009 6:44:53 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( If you have kids, you have no right of privacy that the govt can't flick off your shoulder.)
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To: Iron Munro

Yeah, I CONSTANTLY carried a Swiss army knife (with scissors, etc).

Yesterday I installed a shop work light using nothing else. (I was pretty proud of myself :) )


49 posted on 10/12/2009 6:45:43 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That is most likely the cause of the “discrimination”. Those kids who were wielding weapons and threatening violence just happened to be black. So, in typical efficient gub’mint form, instead of trying to stop black kids from stabbing and shooting each other, they chose to pass zero-tolerance rules. Now no school administrator has to think at all. I wash my hands of this matter. Throw the child out. It’s the law.


50 posted on 10/12/2009 6:48:09 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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