Posted on 10/12/2009 8:01:41 AM PDT by Psion
Why We Are Going to Hell – Part 3,995
Conservative Protestants Condone Law-Breaking
Has the Christian Church Gone Crazy???
by
Paul L. Williams, Ph.D.
Evangelical Christians this week offered the Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY) and members of the U.S. Senate Immigration Reform Committee their ringing endorsement of full amnesty for the 20 to 30 million illegal aliens within the country.
Open borders and high immigration, the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE) proclaimed, increases membership in evangelical churches and is good for the economy.
Rev. Leith Anderson, president of the NAE, said there was no dissent among the members of his organization in ratifying a pro-amnesty resolution.
He testified that the Gospel requires that Christians be willing to forgive illegal aliens for breaking existing immigration laws and statutes.
Rev. Anderson added: “We believe that undocumented immigrants who have otherwise been law abiding members of our communities should be offered the opportunity to pay any taxes or penalties owed, and over time earn the right to become U.S. citizens and permanent residents. The process of redemption and restitution is core to Christian beliefs, as we were all once lost and redeemed through love of Jesus Christ.”
The NAE describes itself as “. . . a network of 40 denominations comprising more than 45,000 local churches located in every congressional district and every state.”
(Excerpt) Read more at thelastcrusade.org ...
That NOT real Evangelicals.
I agree. What has become of the Church?
The Catholics and the Happy Clappys both want more “nalgas” in the pews, hence the support for amnesty.
..Liberation Theology adherents—Christian in name only...
Should I translate “nalgas”?
You are of course correct......and the politicians are salivating over the thought of 30 million new voters.
Not any evangelicals I know.
Greedy pastors, priests and bishops looking for money. They will destroy their own churches in the long run. They will end up like newspapers if they keep this up.
I don’t need a middleman when dealing with God, especially when the middleman is some greedy preacher/pastor/priest pushing illegal immigration and liberalism.
I also don’t need a rock concert or dopey Christian rock music. The old stuff written by Bach, Handel and Mozart does the job better.
Let those church members collect money every Sunday and let them pay for the cost of such an action.
A person I went to high school with was raised Luthern and turn to the Pentacostal church.
She has come up with such wacky ideas over the years that I ceased talking to her about anything. She has been completely brainwashed.
NAE does not speak for my church nor is my denomination listed (thankfully). The latter days are here, as people will chase (are chasing) ‘false teachings’. Entire churches will be (have been) poisoned with heresy.
You mean evangelicals like the episcopalians and the universal universalist churches? /sarc
Evangelicals have become so liberal in the last few years...oh what am I saying? As a Catholic, I find that Catholics have too....I think the country has moved left.
Because of the nature of evangelical Christianity, anyone claiming to speak for them probably doesn’t.
That won’t stop con men and charlatans from making the claim, though.
NATIONAL EVANGELICALS PRESIDENT SAYS PRO-AMNESTY SUPPORT WAS UNANIMOUS
Next up for the Gaia christians has to be the scourge of Climate change/sarc....take away these ‘churches’ Non-Profit status, they are Political Orgs!
What is happening here. I agree with you.
Notice the Salvation Army is included. I've already sent them a note indicating my no longer considering them my primary donation target and forwarded the link to my Home Church, who I'm sure is not associated, but is Evangelical.
The NAE consists of CINOs only, certainly.
My daughters were at a private Christian school last year, and their “science” teacher was such an environmental whacko.
It was so bad that we ended up changing schools.
I swear she was more into the environment then she was into Christ.
What really bothered me was that she never used paper products like paper towels. She had cloth towels she would use to clean her classroom. She also encouraged the kids not to use water, and many of the kids stopped washing their hands because they didn’t want to “waste” water. My daughters got so sick last year, and I think it was in part due to her classroom not being really clean. The teacher didn’t even change her ways when H1N1 hit. When 20% of the kids were out sick with flu & strep throat, she still didn’t change her ways.
I’m glad my daughters didn’t buy into any of the environmental whacko stuff. They love their new school, and one reason is it is more conservative.
“He testified that the Gospel requires that Christians be willing to forgive illegal aliens for breaking existing immigration laws and statutes.”
Christians can forgive crimes committed against them. However, a Christian forgiving a murderer is NOT the same as a legal PARDON for the murder.
The NAE has been heading to a social gospel for some time. I’m glad the Southern Baptists aren’t part, but it is time for any serious denomination to pull out. The NAE has obviously decided that ‘Liberalism Saves’, and denies the Gospel.
Wacky ideas like what?
That is some list! There is One God and one Truth; yet, tons of ‘religions’. That alone should wake some up! There was a reason Jesus came to show the hypocrisy of the ‘religious’. Our life should be about a personal relationship w/God and not being associated with ‘man made’ religion.
Related thread and my comment.
U.S. Can’t Trace Foreign Visitors on Expired Visas
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2360543/posts?page=29#29
I hope some can now see how I came up with the figure of 4 million LEGAL immigration entrants into this country per year.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2356800/posts?page=49#49
CBS and NY times reports today: “Last year alone, 2.9 million foreign visitors on temporary visas like Mr. Smadi’s checked in to the country but never officially checked out, immigration officials said.”
http://paxalles.blogs.com/paxalles/
It’s also reported this week that 70% of our population growth is due to immigration. NEVER in our history has this happened.
http://www.asustainableusa.org/info/faq_population_immigration.html
Of course they still hold to old lie that there are 12 million illegal aliens....there are many more. If amnesty is granted, the flood gates will be open. And remember those millions of anchor babies are NOT counted as aliens.
This is invasion provided by your government. It is the loss of the rule of law. This is loss of sovereignty. This
is the loss of our nation. A nation without borders is NOT a nation.
More social engineering. It’s no accident that poverty in this nation is increasing, our middle class disappearing as the push by the envirofreaks escalates. THEY know something we don’t want to admit...POOR people use fewer resources, because they can’t afford them. (except for the fact they have more children!) And if these global warming extremists get their way, all of us, excepting them of course, will be poor, just like the 3rd worlders they are importing by the millions.
Good article by Mike Cutler on all this here:
“VISA OVERSTAYS: CAN WE BAR THE TERRORIST DOOR?”
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct2=us%2F0_0_s_2_0_t&usg=AFQjCNFrVRj-dekwa31Y30X2WFb
“Notice the Salvation Army is included.”
Interesting. A couple years ago the SA was sued by the BUSH justice department for requiring their employees to speak english...Guess they figured if they can’t fight ‘em, just give up and join them!
Where does it say that? In general, we are to forgive but that does NOT mean condone! We are to follow the laws of the land. If a man doesn't work, he doesn't eat. Three strikes right there against illegals!
It' amazing the number of "Christians" who don't know what the scriptures say...
1 Peter 4:15 " If you suffer, it should not be as a murderer or thief or any other kind of criminal, or even as a meddler."
Though better than what we have now, Bush was no friend to conservatives - big government globalists on both sides of the aisle will destroy the U.S.A. unless we flush d.c.
Indeed.
“the Gospel requires that Christians be willing to forgive illegal aliens for breaking existing immigration laws and statutes.””
And there is this, which the aliens and their co dependents just don’t get! But then the vast majority are NOT Christian but socialists:
From the 10 commandments:
You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife
You shall not covet anything that belongs to your neighbor
The business of ‘forgiveness’ is the Lords, not mine. It is my duty to uphold the constitution and the sovereignty of this nation.
See? I told you the Christians weren’t reading their Bibles and getting close to Father!
We wouldn’t have the President we’re stuck with if they had. The brand of “Christianity” they’re peddling here is the Michael Moore-Walt Disney-Mel Gibson mistake: Liberal/pop-Christianity from the fiction writers. “I think it was, therefore it was”.
“Not any evangelicals I know.”
Yeah. I think maybe some people who don’t know up from down are being called Evangelicals.
These churches that are pro amnesty support the breaking of our laws and lawlessness, promote irreparable harm to this country. One could argue they are doing the Devil’s work.
“These churches that are pro amnesty support the breaking of our laws and lawlessness, promote irreparable harm to this country. One could argue they are doing the Devil’s work.”
Yep.
See post #29
Tf we started to forgive people who break the laws, this country will be run over by hordes from overpopulated countries and criminals would rule. Many illegal aliens are pedophiles (and they would inflict unspeakable harm on children), violent gang members, and of course terrorists.
Why should those who break the laws get special privileges over those who try to come here legally? We can forgive them but still enforce the laws: send them back home.
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