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Tentative Inspection Program Would Allow Russia to Visit U.S. Nuclear Sites
Fox News ^ | October 13, 2009 | Fox News

Posted on 10/13/2009 10:42:13 AM PDT by JimSEA

Russia and the United States have tentatively agreed to a weapons inspection program that would allow Russians to visit nuclear sites in America to count missiles and warheads.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhofascism; bhotreason; breaking; clinton; democrats; nuclear; obama; omg; reddawn; reddawnii; russia; surrender; tm
I don't see anything on U. S. inspections of Russian sites. It must be there somewhere, no one could be this stupid without at least the cover of Russian promises of our inspections of their sites. Would they??
1 posted on 10/13/2009 10:42:14 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA
No, they wouldn't be THAT stupid. I presume they wouldn't be stupid enough to allow Iran to inspect US Nuke sites.

Or... Would they?

2 posted on 10/13/2009 10:44:48 AM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: JimSEA

Yes we can be that stupid. We scrapped plans for missile defense in Europe and asked for nothing in return didn’t we?

Russia is playing us like a drum.


3 posted on 10/13/2009 10:45:39 AM PDT by GeronL ("On my twelfth day in office, Nobel nominated me..")
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To: GeronL

Well, they have do have a man on the inside.


4 posted on 10/13/2009 10:48:25 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: JimSEA
Last I checked there are still no give on sanctions for Iran and I missed the part where we were inspecting their military might.

Some of the story must have gotten cut off. There was nothing in there about the quid pro quo. A negotiation is generally about an exchange of something. What did our great leader get for us in return for our showing our privates.

5 posted on 10/13/2009 10:49:43 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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To: JimSEA

You know, there for a while I was thinking that Hillary was smarter than this, but I was wrong. She is going along with this farce with eyes wide open. We are going to wake up one day soon surrounded, disarmed and defenseless.


6 posted on 10/13/2009 10:50:34 AM PDT by mapmaker77
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To: JimSEA

If there is reciprocity in the inspection protocol,I have NO problems with the agreement.


7 posted on 10/13/2009 10:52:40 AM PDT by puppypusher (The world is going to the Dogs.)
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To: C210N

Unfortunately, this isn’t new or even Democrat stupidity. We invited senior Chinese military officials to the Pentagon, basically gave them the keys to the kingdom and got nothing in return. Oh, sorry - at the unclassified level (for my buddies on the MI Ping List) they got lots of illegal inside information on our latest weapons systems (JTF and F-22) by cyber-espionage from China WHILE their senior officials were visiting the Pentagon.

We’ve been played for fools in four consecutive administrations, and it’s sickening.

Colonel, USAFR


8 posted on 10/13/2009 10:55:50 AM PDT by jagusafr (Kill the red lizard, Lord! - nod to C.S. Lewis)
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To: puppypusher

we operate observation posts in Russia - every so oftem I see ad on Dice for EE’s who can deploy for 3 years and live
on an isolated post. whether they are for missile launch verification or nuclear material verification is unknown.


9 posted on 10/13/2009 10:56:27 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: mapmaker77
"there for a while I was thinking that Hillary was smarter than this"

Why? What possible reason would you have to think that, other than random hope?
10 posted on 10/13/2009 10:59:35 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: JimSEA
The Russians have been inspecting Vandenberg AFB since the early 1970s as a result of the SALT Treaty. I know the inspections are reciprocal but I don't know which Russian sites we inspect.

This is not a new concept......

11 posted on 10/13/2009 10:59:41 AM PDT by Ben Mugged (Unions are the storm troopers of socialism.)
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To: JimSEA

Holy CRAP, what next!!!


12 posted on 10/13/2009 11:04:07 AM PDT by blondee123 (Welcome to life under Obama Bin Lyin!)
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To: JimSEA

This is yet another WTF story...


13 posted on 10/13/2009 11:13:24 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (America is at that awkward stage..2 late 2 work within the system, but 2 early 2 shoot the bastards)
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To: Ben Mugged

Even is the inspections are reciprocal, which may be the case, there is no indication as to what the Russians have given up in exchange for this “deepening” of penetration in America. Also, any agreement with Russia alone ignores the very real problems in China and the emerging nuclear powers. These are not new objections either.


14 posted on 10/13/2009 11:18:57 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA

U F B


15 posted on 10/13/2009 11:26:08 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: JimSEA

This is just beyond the pale.


16 posted on 10/13/2009 11:28:49 AM PDT by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: JimSEA

How can anyone not think Obama is deliberately destroying America?

What is it going to take???


17 posted on 10/13/2009 11:41:18 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: jagusafr

Rhetorical question - When does this get to the point where it is considered treason? Who decides when the line has been crossed that an administration is working with the enemy to undermine our national security? (I mean beyond just our opinion as conservatives, - to the point where serious steps must be taken?)


18 posted on 10/13/2009 11:57:36 AM PDT by boxlunch
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To: boxlunch

It’s far past that point now.


19 posted on 10/13/2009 12:10:09 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: JimSEA

Kidding, right..?


20 posted on 10/13/2009 12:18:57 PM PDT by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: blondee123

we get to visit theirs...

apparently there’s one in a Siberian carpark that’s grabbing some attention in the German press:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,654969,00.html#ref=nlint


21 posted on 10/13/2009 12:50:05 PM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: ameribbean expat

The “radioactive materials” they’re talking about probably describes little tyvek booties and gloves with a bit of dust on them.


22 posted on 10/14/2009 1:26:00 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: JimSEA

“We want to ensure that every question that the Russian military or Russian government asks is answered,” she said, calling missile defense “another area for deep cooperation between ourcountries.”

On another critical issue, Lavrov declared that it would be counterproductive to threaten Iran with more sanctions over its nuclear program — as he resisted efforts by Clinton to win agreement for tougher measures should Iran fail to prove its program is peaceful.

Clinton visited Moscow on her first trip since becoming America’s top diplomat, in an effort to gauge Moscow’s willingness to join the U.S. in imposing sanctions.

Clinton said the U.S. agreed it was important to pursue diplomacy with Iran.

“At the same time that we are very vigorously pursuing this track, we are aware that we might not be as successful as we need to be, so we have always looked at the potential of sanctions in the event we are not successful and cannot assure ourselves . . .


23 posted on 10/14/2009 8:35:14 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Ben Mugged
“This is not a new concept......”

Clinton just did this....
You know....
On that little trip she just took.

24 posted on 10/14/2009 8:37:18 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: JimSEA
Oh great, we're going to show them "the Big Board" and not even get a reach-around in return.

Hillary opens the kimono - wrong on every level!

25 posted on 10/14/2009 9:02:51 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The President has borrowed more money to spend to less effect than anybody on the planet. " Steyn)
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To: JimSEA
WTF? I thought it was Iran which had the rogue nuclear program.

Cheers!

26 posted on 10/14/2009 9:03:31 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: NonValueAdded

Well the Chinese gave the Clintons a crapload of money,now I guess it’s the Russkies turn.


27 posted on 10/14/2009 9:22:55 PM PDT by hercuroc
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To: JimSEA

I read this story yesterday. Is this the first if was posted on FR?


28 posted on 10/14/2009 9:26:08 PM PDT by Revel
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To: JimSEA

Russia reserves pre-emptive nuclear strike right

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2362713/posts


29 posted on 10/14/2009 9:34:50 PM PDT by RasterMaster (The only way to open a LIEberal mind is with a brick!)
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To: JimSEA

Comrade Ubama: The gift that keeps on giving.


30 posted on 10/14/2009 9:43:43 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: JimSEA

Well JimSEA, did Obama get quid pro quo for canceling the defensive missile shield around Poland? About all I can see that he got was a declaration by Putin, that a first strike was still on the table if he was having a bad day.

So do I have confidence that Obama got us an on-site inspection too? Ah... no...

What’s more, will Putin’s crew have a GPS with them? Are they going to document the exact coordinates of our remaining nukes?

Honestly, I have no confidence with this administration whatsoever.


31 posted on 10/14/2009 9:45:31 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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To: JimSEA; Ernest_at_the_Beach
As far as I am concern the shit has hit the proverbial fan.
Zero's team have far beyond reasonable argument moved beyond the limits of "safe diplomacy".
This clown and his handlers are either to naive in effect due to their long term indoctrinations in liberal wishy washy world views etc., put this Republic and really all our allies in a precarious situation, AND OR, it really is what many of us have preached about... the deliberate course to undermine this Republic's sovereignty and well being, and in essence safety. There is such little room to make excuses as to a possible naive attempt at making the world feel warm and cozy. One does not do that as a responsible leader of the free world.
If one produces the hard to defend argument that the Ruskie now feel un-secure if the Iranian supreme leader kicked the bucket, I would respond .... BS. Russia wants to do what it wants to do on the world stage. And they have a huge armory of nuclear weapons. So do we. But we have not ever suggested we would use them in a pre-emp fashion as far as I can see. in recent years. They play dangerous games. But ones they feel they can totally get away with now that the socialist is in power in the west.
32 posted on 10/14/2009 10:17:34 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: JimSEA

UnF**KING BELIEVABLE!

Remember not too many years ago when foreigners trying to look at our nukes was considered a crime?


33 posted on 10/14/2009 10:49:37 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: JimSEA

The Russians can easily hide their warheads throughout the massive area of Siberia. No doubt about that.


34 posted on 10/14/2009 11:57:07 PM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: jagusafr
We've been played for fools in four consecutive administrations, and it's sickening.

That's because of the traitorous leadership. Oh, I'd wish they were booted out by patriotic generals.

...they got lots of illegal inside information on our latest weapons systems (JSF and F-22) by cyber-espionage from China...

And they have the technology to develop their Gen 5 fighter, the Shenyang J-14, using stolen F-35 tech.

Oh no, oh no, Raptor pilots are going to have a bad time fighting this jet.

35 posted on 10/15/2009 12:07:02 AM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: JimSEA
China and Russia are building up their military and the Obama is "leveling the playing field." Is this what he meant by "fundamentally changing America?" --------- Obama said: “I believe America’s free market has been the engine of America’s great progress. It’s created a prosperity that is the envy of the world. It’s led to a standard of living unmatched in history.------- Is he trying to "spread the wealth" around the world?------- Obama said: “We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK. That’s not leadership. That’s not going to happen.”------- Yes, I believe this is what he means by fundamentally changing America.
36 posted on 10/15/2009 1:44:53 AM PDT by dragonfire417
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To: JimSEA

It would be “arrogant” of us to expect us to be able to inspect Russian nuclear sites while Obama is on his quest to become the most popular president EVA!!!


37 posted on 10/15/2009 2:39:01 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: Ben Mugged
"The Russians have been inspecting Vandenberg AFB since the early 1970s as a result of the SALT Treaty. I know the inspections are reciprocal but I don't know which Russian sites we inspect. This is not a new concept......"

I saw a documentary many years ago about US Inspectors touring "cold war" Russian nuclear facilities.

So yes, this is not a new development. Personally, I like that the US and the Russian federation are keeping tabs on each others' nuke programs.

Why? Because they and us understand MAD. The problem is not with Russia or even China. The problem is with nuclear proliferation in countries like North Korea and Iran who just don't give a shit if they're children go 1,000,000 degrees.

They believe they will all go to some friggin paradise and be one with Allah. How many times do we need to hear Amanutjob preach about the 13th Imman that will bring about end times? The world is getting plain a** suicidal politically correct.

And that is why we should kill their leadership yesterday. They don't subscribe to MAD. Tactically nuke every North Korean missle site, and every thing Iran is building.

It's called survival.

When one American city goes up in nuclear flames, then will it be time? Many on these boards claim that NK or Iran or Syria can smuggle in a nuke and it be too late.

Got news: Every uranian enrichment or plutonium isotope has a particular signature. We WILL know where the bomb came from, no matter who they give or sell it to. And that's probably why they haven't attempted it yet.

WHEN it happens, we will nuke those fuckers into oblivion and they know it, even with the obambi puss in the WH. My worry is not NK, it's with the nutjobs in Iran who WANT Armageddon. We need to kill them now!

38 posted on 10/15/2009 3:01:13 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever !)
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To: myknowledge
"The Russians can easily hide their warheads throughout the massive area of Siberia. No doubt about that."

The Russians nor the Chinese want to kill the golden goose, not to mention Tridents that will kill them.

Our worries are about North Korea, Iran, Syria, and others who just don't care. Time to take them ALL out.

Make me King of the World for (5) days, and they would cease to exist. Let the UN and the rest of the world community whine all they want - what could they do?

China nor Russia would attempt to launch against us. Think Trident retribution!!! MAD still works for them, but not the crazies in NK and Iran and others looking to build nukes. Kill them all now! And show the World that the US still has the balls to defend herself.

39 posted on 10/15/2009 3:09:19 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever !)
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To: A Navy Vet

China nor Russia would [not] attempt to launch against us.


40 posted on 10/15/2009 3:12:34 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever !)
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To: JimSEA

I hope they dont find that illegal shippment of Yellowcake...

Hey PUTIN! Stay the f*** over there, where Sara can keep and eye on ya.


41 posted on 10/15/2009 3:32:32 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: A Navy Vet
If one American city goes up in nuclear flames and our nuke specialists determine where the isotope came from, I say turn them into stone age. Make a HUGE example of them.

Again, China and Russia WILL NOT respond, as long as we don't threaten their borders/country. They'll piss and moan, as the rest of the world will, but the point will be made that the USA is still willing to retaliate against any such aggression.

Kill Iran and North Korea now! Sorry about that collateral damage thing, but if a nuke goes off in an American city, all bets are off!!! Anyone (even if just the government) responsible who kills massive amounts of our innocent women and children should ALL die and be made an example. And I won't give one shit if an entire country goes 1,000,000 degrees due to our Tridents.

Kill my countrymen in a WMD attack, then wipe out any country who is responsible. I'm talking every thing we have but won't kill the planet. KILL THEM ALL!

Think that's harsh? Okay. So your children turn to ash? Then you think it's harsh? Or how about your other family members and friends and countrymen turn into shadows on a wall? What if they just burn and die some days later from the heat blast? What if they die a slow agonizing death due to radiation? Still think it's harsh to wipe out Iran or North Korea or Syria or maybe Venesuela in the coming years?

Would you have been okay if the Soviets launch nukes from Cuba back in the 1960's Missle Crisis? Would you have said, "No, let's not punish the innocent Cubans?" I would have said bomb the entire Nation into oblivion so they can't do it again.

Well, guess what? We're heading towards the same crisis with NK and Iran. Kill them before they can kill us.

42 posted on 10/15/2009 3:46:17 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever !)
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To: Tenacious 1

I think we got bubkus for being “nice.”


43 posted on 10/15/2009 4:30:32 AM PDT by samsmom
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To: JimSEA

Back in the 80’s or 90’s, didn’t someone in State Dept float the idea of allowing Russian Airplanes overflights of the US in the “spirit of mutual trust”?


44 posted on 10/15/2009 5:28:13 AM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Tenacious 1

“What did our great leader get for us in return for our showing our privates.”

A promise from the Russians to consider the possibility that at some future time sending a memo of bland, passing interest about Iranian nukes in Ahmadinejad’s birthday card.


45 posted on 10/15/2009 5:28:45 AM PDT by ScottinVA
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To: A Navy Vet

“If one American city goes up in nuclear flames and our nuke specialists determine where the isotope came from, I say turn them into stone age. Make a HUGE example of them.”

Won’t happen during this administration. Remember, 0bama hates nukes, especially ours. If we’re attacked, the best we’re going to see from this bunch is a letter of deep concern. However, the good new is.. they have them already pre-printed and ready for zer0’s signature.


46 posted on 10/15/2009 5:31:46 AM PDT by ScottinVA
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To: theDentist
That tweaks my memory too. Perhaps O will permit Putin on demand entry to our airspace. Bad ideas never die.
47 posted on 10/15/2009 8:21:16 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA

I think it was named “Open Airs” or something like that. Searching the ‘net (between tweaking patient root canals).


48 posted on 10/15/2009 9:40:23 AM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: theDentist
between tweaking patient root canals

Ouch!!!

49 posted on 10/15/2009 10:21:03 AM PDT by JimSEA
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