Posted on 10/13/2009 10:42:13 AM PDT by JimSEA
Russia and the United States have tentatively agreed to a weapons inspection program that would allow Russians to visit nuclear sites in America to count missiles and warheads.
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Or... Would they?
Yes we can be that stupid. We scrapped plans for missile defense in Europe and asked for nothing in return didn’t we?
Russia is playing us like a drum.
Well, they have do have a man on the inside.
Some of the story must have gotten cut off. There was nothing in there about the quid pro quo. A negotiation is generally about an exchange of something. What did our great leader get for us in return for our showing our privates.
You know, there for a while I was thinking that Hillary was smarter than this, but I was wrong. She is going along with this farce with eyes wide open. We are going to wake up one day soon surrounded, disarmed and defenseless.
If there is reciprocity in the inspection protocol,I have NO problems with the agreement.
Unfortunately, this isn’t new or even Democrat stupidity. We invited senior Chinese military officials to the Pentagon, basically gave them the keys to the kingdom and got nothing in return. Oh, sorry - at the unclassified level (for my buddies on the MI Ping List) they got lots of illegal inside information on our latest weapons systems (JTF and F-22) by cyber-espionage from China WHILE their senior officials were visiting the Pentagon.
We’ve been played for fools in four consecutive administrations, and it’s sickening.
Colonel, USAFR
we operate observation posts in Russia - every so oftem I see ad on Dice for EE’s who can deploy for 3 years and live
on an isolated post. whether they are for missile launch verification or nuclear material verification is unknown.
This is not a new concept......
Holy CRAP, what next!!!
This is yet another WTF story...
Even is the inspections are reciprocal, which may be the case, there is no indication as to what the Russians have given up in exchange for this “deepening” of penetration in America. Also, any agreement with Russia alone ignores the very real problems in China and the emerging nuclear powers. These are not new objections either.
U F B
This is just beyond the pale.
How can anyone not think Obama is deliberately destroying America?
What is it going to take???
Rhetorical question - When does this get to the point where it is considered treason? Who decides when the line has been crossed that an administration is working with the enemy to undermine our national security? (I mean beyond just our opinion as conservatives, - to the point where serious steps must be taken?)
It’s far past that point now.
Kidding, right..?
we get to visit theirs...
apparently there’s one in a Siberian carpark that’s grabbing some attention in the German press:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,654969,00.html#ref=nlint
The “radioactive materials” they’re talking about probably describes little tyvek booties and gloves with a bit of dust on them.
“We want to ensure that every question that the Russian military or Russian government asks is answered,” she said, calling missile defense “another area for deep cooperation between ourcountries.”
On another critical issue, Lavrov declared that it would be counterproductive to threaten Iran with more sanctions over its nuclear program — as he resisted efforts by Clinton to win agreement for tougher measures should Iran fail to prove its program is peaceful.
Clinton visited Moscow on her first trip since becoming America’s top diplomat, in an effort to gauge Moscow’s willingness to join the U.S. in imposing sanctions.
Clinton said the U.S. agreed it was important to pursue diplomacy with Iran.
“At the same time that we are very vigorously pursuing this track, we are aware that we might not be as successful as we need to be, so we have always looked at the potential of sanctions in the event we are not successful and cannot assure ourselves . . .
Clinton just did this....
You know....
On that little trip she just took.
Hillary opens the kimono - wrong on every level!
Cheers!
Well the Chinese gave the Clintons a crapload of money,now I guess it’s the Russkies turn.
I read this story yesterday. Is this the first if was posted on FR?
Russia reserves pre-emptive nuclear strike right
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2362713/posts
Comrade Ubama: The gift that keeps on giving.
Well JimSEA, did Obama get quid pro quo for canceling the defensive missile shield around Poland? About all I can see that he got was a declaration by Putin, that a first strike was still on the table if he was having a bad day.
So do I have confidence that Obama got us an on-site inspection too? Ah... no...
What’s more, will Putin’s crew have a GPS with them? Are they going to document the exact coordinates of our remaining nukes?
Honestly, I have no confidence with this administration whatsoever.
UnF**KING BELIEVABLE!
Remember not too many years ago when foreigners trying to look at our nukes was considered a crime?
The Russians can easily hide their warheads throughout the massive area of Siberia. No doubt about that.
That's because of the traitorous leadership. Oh, I'd wish they were booted out by patriotic generals.
...they got lots of illegal inside information on our latest weapons systems (JSF and F-22) by cyber-espionage from China...

And they have the technology to develop their Gen 5 fighter, the Shenyang J-14, using stolen F-35 tech.
Oh no, oh no, Raptor pilots are going to have a bad time fighting this jet.
It would be “arrogant” of us to expect us to be able to inspect Russian nuclear sites while Obama is on his quest to become the most popular president EVA!!!
I saw a documentary many years ago about US Inspectors touring "cold war" Russian nuclear facilities.
So yes, this is not a new development. Personally, I like that the US and the Russian federation are keeping tabs on each others' nuke programs.
Why? Because they and us understand MAD. The problem is not with Russia or even China. The problem is with nuclear proliferation in countries like North Korea and Iran who just don't give a shit if they're children go 1,000,000 degrees.
They believe they will all go to some friggin paradise and be one with Allah. How many times do we need to hear Amanutjob preach about the 13th Imman that will bring about end times? The world is getting plain a** suicidal politically correct.
And that is why we should kill their leadership yesterday. They don't subscribe to MAD. Tactically nuke every North Korean missle site, and every thing Iran is building.
It's called survival.
When one American city goes up in nuclear flames, then will it be time? Many on these boards claim that NK or Iran or Syria can smuggle in a nuke and it be too late.
Got news: Every uranian enrichment or plutonium isotope has a particular signature. We WILL know where the bomb came from, no matter who they give or sell it to. And that's probably why they haven't attempted it yet.
WHEN it happens, we will nuke those fuckers into oblivion and they know it, even with the obambi puss in the WH. My worry is not NK, it's with the nutjobs in Iran who WANT Armageddon. We need to kill them now!
The Russians nor the Chinese want to kill the golden goose, not to mention Tridents that will kill them.
Our worries are about North Korea, Iran, Syria, and others who just don't care. Time to take them ALL out.
Make me King of the World for (5) days, and they would cease to exist. Let the UN and the rest of the world community whine all they want - what could they do?
China nor Russia would attempt to launch against us. Think Trident retribution!!! MAD still works for them, but not the crazies in NK and Iran and others looking to build nukes. Kill them all now! And show the World that the US still has the balls to defend herself.
China nor Russia would [not] attempt to launch against us.
I hope they dont find that illegal shippment of Yellowcake...
Hey PUTIN! Stay the f*** over there, where Sara can keep and eye on ya.
Again, China and Russia WILL NOT respond, as long as we don't threaten their borders/country. They'll piss and moan, as the rest of the world will, but the point will be made that the USA is still willing to retaliate against any such aggression.
Kill Iran and North Korea now! Sorry about that collateral damage thing, but if a nuke goes off in an American city, all bets are off!!! Anyone (even if just the government) responsible who kills massive amounts of our innocent women and children should ALL die and be made an example. And I won't give one shit if an entire country goes 1,000,000 degrees due to our Tridents.
Kill my countrymen in a WMD attack, then wipe out any country who is responsible. I'm talking every thing we have but won't kill the planet. KILL THEM ALL!
Think that's harsh? Okay. So your children turn to ash? Then you think it's harsh? Or how about your other family members and friends and countrymen turn into shadows on a wall? What if they just burn and die some days later from the heat blast? What if they die a slow agonizing death due to radiation? Still think it's harsh to wipe out Iran or North Korea or Syria or maybe Venesuela in the coming years?
Would you have been okay if the Soviets launch nukes from Cuba back in the 1960's Missle Crisis? Would you have said, "No, let's not punish the innocent Cubans?" I would have said bomb the entire Nation into oblivion so they can't do it again.
Well, guess what? We're heading towards the same crisis with NK and Iran. Kill them before they can kill us.
I think we got bubkus for being “nice.”
Back in the 80’s or 90’s, didn’t someone in State Dept float the idea of allowing Russian Airplanes overflights of the US in the “spirit of mutual trust”?
“What did our great leader get for us in return for our showing our privates.”
A promise from the Russians to consider the possibility that at some future time sending a memo of bland, passing interest about Iranian nukes in Ahmadinejad’s birthday card.
“If one American city goes up in nuclear flames and our nuke specialists determine where the isotope came from, I say turn them into stone age. Make a HUGE example of them.”
Won’t happen during this administration. Remember, 0bama hates nukes, especially ours. If we’re attacked, the best we’re going to see from this bunch is a letter of deep concern. However, the good new is.. they have them already pre-printed and ready for zer0’s signature.
I think it was named “Open Airs” or something like that. Searching the ‘net (between tweaking patient root canals).
Ouch!!!
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