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Columbus Attorneys Disapprove Of Orly Taitz's Actions
Ledger-Enquirer ^ | 10/13/09 | Alan Riquelmy

Posted on 10/13/2009 10:55:29 AM PDT by steve-b

Columbus attorney William Mason has seen "birther" lawyer Orly Taitz on television and read about her in the newspaper.

He's quick with a description of the California lawyer: "She's nuts," Mason said. “Based on what I saw and read, she's nuts."

Mason said her court filings don't appear written by someone familiar with the court system. Also, members of the Georgia bar, to which Taitz doesn't belong, aren't allowed to advance an untrue cause. And, he said, she's never been able to support speculation made in federal court that President Barack Obama wasn't born in the United States.

For attorney Frank Martin, Taitz's actions are so egregious that she should be disciplined.

"First of all, a lawyer has an ethical duty not to advance an argument that either you know is not true or you do not have an honest basis to argue," Martin said. "She's the type of person who gives lawyers a bad name."...

(Excerpt) Read more at ledger-enquirer.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; conspiracytheory; crackpot; orly; orlytaitz; taitz

1 posted on 10/13/2009 10:55:30 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: steve-b

How do you spell ad hominem?


2 posted on 10/13/2009 10:57:18 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: steve-b

Unorthodox is not necessarily “untrue”. Legalistic minds were made for the construction of board games. The real life still exists out here.


3 posted on 10/13/2009 10:57:24 AM PDT by alloysteel (....the Kennedys can be regarded as dysfunctional. Even in death.)
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To: steve-b

THEN JUST SHOW HER THE DAMM BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND SHE’LL GO AWAY


4 posted on 10/13/2009 10:57:27 AM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: steve-b

“First of all, a lawyer has an ethical duty not to advance an argument that either you know is not true or you do not have an honest basis to argue,” Martin said”

Good one. If that were the case, 80% of the attorneys I know should be disbarred


5 posted on 10/13/2009 10:59:40 AM PDT by Cyman
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To: steve-b

How dare a citizen or a soldier ask for proof of eligibility.


6 posted on 10/13/2009 10:59:49 AM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's health care?)
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To: steve-b

Wow, that lawyer surmised all those acrimonious thoughts from reading a newspaper article?

Why doesn’t Barack Obama just show us his long form birth certificate and not spend up to 2.4 million dollars hiding it. It’s that easy.

If Obama shows us the long form, then we’ll believe him. Until then, the onus of doubt and suspicion is on his shoulders.

Oh yes, Steve-B, you forgot the “Barf Alert” tag but other than that it was a good posting.

It’s time. It’s time for Barack Obama, illustrious winner of the Nobel Peace Prize to show his stuff. Show your stuff, Barack, by showing us the long form birth certificate.

It’s okay if you’re not half-white, you know what I mean?


7 posted on 10/13/2009 11:02:53 AM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the World Dances With You!)
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To: steve-b
"Also, members of the Georgia bar, to which Taitz doesn't belong, aren't allowed to advance an untrue cause"

Who says it's untrue? Isn't that what she is trying to resolve? Who's the brilliant legal mind now...??

8 posted on 10/13/2009 11:03:15 AM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: alloysteel
Unorthodox is not necessarily “untrue”.

But "nuts" generally is "nuts".

9 posted on 10/13/2009 11:04:12 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: BertWheeler

LOL! Obama probably has a staffer working 24/7 on ways to act like he’s [ OMINOUS ECHO EFFECT ] HIDING SOMETHING [ /OEE ] in order to keep this embarrassment to his opposition simmering away.


10 posted on 10/13/2009 11:04:41 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: steve-b
"First of all, a lawyer has an ethical duty not to advance an argument that either you know is not true or you do not have an honest basis to argue,"

Ha Ha Ha this guy kills me

11 posted on 10/13/2009 11:05:16 AM PDT by doodad
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To: steve-b
she's never been able to support speculation made in federal court that President Barack Obama wasn't born in the United States

She hasn't been allowed to prove/disprove it.

12 posted on 10/13/2009 11:06:08 AM PDT by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: steve-b

No Steve, that argument is plenty stale. And the price tag is over $2 million of somebody’s money. That’s a lot of cash.

We’ll see how it plays out.


13 posted on 10/13/2009 11:06:08 AM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the World Dances With You!)
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To: alloysteel
Legalistic minds were made for the construction of board games. The real life still exists out here.

The relevant comment in the article:

"It's more than an attack on Judge Land," Martin said. "It's an attack on the federal judiciary. I think she’s confused that she's at a town hall meeting. She's in a courtroom."

14 posted on 10/13/2009 11:11:54 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: steve-b

How can she know it’s untrue?

What is known is that his father was not a U.S. Citizen. And depending on the definition of “Natural Born” that you accept, he is therefore not a “Natural Born” citizen.


15 posted on 10/13/2009 11:15:15 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: steve-b
And, he said, she's never been able to support speculation made in federal court that President Barack Obama wasn't born in the United States.

DUH another clown. Did I miss a trial or something, discovery?

16 posted on 10/13/2009 11:21:48 AM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: steve-b

We all know that the courts have been legislating from the bench and pushing political agendas. To now sugest that the courts are above politics is just rich.


17 posted on 10/13/2009 11:23:12 AM PDT by JoSixChip (The only thing broken in this country is the government.. .)
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To: Mr. K
THEN JUST SHOW HER THE DAMM BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND SHE’LL GO AWAY

Nonsense

18 posted on 10/13/2009 11:30:31 AM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: Mr. K
THEN JUST SHOW HER THE DAMM BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND SHE’LL GO AWAY

No she won't. Read her case. Orly argues that Obama was born in Kenya and supports her claim with two different "Kenyan" birth certificates but she goes on further in the briefs she has filed that even if he was born in Hawaii it wouldn't matter due to Obama's father's Kenyan citizenship.

Orly is calling for Obama's removal (or resignation) regardless of where he was born. Obama volunteering his long form BC won't put an end to Orly's crusade. She'll just claim it's fake and/or argue from the "two citizen parent" angle.

19 posted on 10/13/2009 11:31:29 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68
"Orly is calling for Obama's removal (or resignation) regardless of where he was born. Obama volunteering his long form BC won't put an end to Orly's crusade. She'll just claim it's fake and/or argue from the "two citizen parent" angle.

He needs to prove he is constitutionally eligible, that is all that is being asked. If this was a republican president you know damn well it would be the top issue and require immediate resolution.
20 posted on 10/13/2009 11:36:16 AM PDT by JoSixChip (The only thing broken in this country is the government.. .)
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To: kidd

As a candidate, and now as an elected leader, I would think the burden of proof would be on Obama to demonstrate that he IS eligable.


21 posted on 10/13/2009 11:52:29 AM PDT by thefoundersrock (did you ever think you'd live to see the days...)
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To: thefoundersrock

I would like to think so, but no court has yet determined that anyone has standing to force Obama to do what he’s supposed to do.


22 posted on 10/13/2009 11:56:49 AM PDT by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: BertWheeler

....the onus....is on his shoulders.....

Unfortunately, in a court of law, the onus is on her, not him. All she had was a bogus looking Kenyan birth certificate some crackpot was trying to auction on the internet plus she is a terrible lawyer with virtually no courtroom experience and she attacked the judge personally. Go away, Orly or get some help.


23 posted on 10/13/2009 12:39:37 PM PDT by mono
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To: mono

It’s time for Barack to show off his birth certificate to the rest of the class in a new age show and tell... Let’s see it! Why pay millions to hide it?

I’m tired of the messenger being the story. If a lawyer trying a case finished 19th out of 27 in his law school, would the judge immediately toss out his case or decide the case on it’s own merits?

We have a president who, in all seriousness, is not a natural born citizen for the reasons we’ve gone over ad nauseum. So, Barack isn’t a natural born citizen and probably wasn’t even born in Hawaii and this is being covered up. You have to ask yourself why.

Why the cover up?

Just show the long form birth certificate and the critics (on this issue) will just have to put a lid on it.


24 posted on 10/13/2009 12:48:48 PM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the World Dances With You!)
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To: kidd

We ALL, all Americans, have standing to question Zero’s eligibility and authority to be ruining and destroying (or as Glenn Beck put it, dismantling) America.

That’s the dirty little secret the leftist activist judges will NOT admit to. It’s typical leftist BS.


25 posted on 10/13/2009 2:23:05 PM PDT by XenaLee
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To: JoSixChip
If this was a republican president you know damn well it would be the top issue and require immediate resolution.

Hmm. I don't recall Democrats jumping on board to sue McCain on the eligibility. As I recall, it was Keyes, Drake, Robinson -- the same people suing Obama -- who were challenged McCain's eligibility.
26 posted on 10/13/2009 2:42:51 PM PDT by Sibre Fan
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To: Sibre Fan

Hmm, If I remember correctly, they had senate hearings to determine mccains eligibility. And if you think the media, as well as the dems, would not be all over this you are clearly delusional.


27 posted on 10/13/2009 2:59:59 PM PDT by JoSixChip (The only thing broken in this country is the government.. .)
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To: JoSixChip
I think what "they" (Republicans and Democrats) had was an unopposed, nonbinding Resolution (not hearings) that said that McCain was eligible. (No Democrat opposed the Resolution. No Democrat argued that McCain was not eligible, and a leading "leftist" Constitutional scholar emphatically declared that McCain was eligible.

The leftist media did pick up the McCain eligibility story, briefly, but did not cover it nearly as much as they have now covered the challenges to Obama. Oddly (or not), its the leftist media who are pushing the Obama eligibility challenge story -- not Fox News and other "reality based" or conservative media.
28 posted on 10/13/2009 3:11:36 PM PDT by Sibre Fan
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To: BertWheeler

Have you followed her cases at all? She cant even get far enough to compel discovery. She is the wrong person to pursue this. She has now hired someone to help her and he is a disbared lawyer. God help us!


29 posted on 10/13/2009 3:44:46 PM PDT by mono
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To: steve-b
I wonder if this William Mason attorney is related to Cuyahoga County prosecuting Attorney William Mason. The county that has the wacko and total nutball Dennis "Kook" Kucinich and Commie lover Marcia Fudge as reps?
30 posted on 10/13/2009 7:43:37 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: InterceptPoint

I get this Mason guy’s angle now he seems to practices in Land’s court. Brown nosing to the 10th degree.

Note to turds: hey you guys doing the TCP/SYN flood attack for the last 2 days are not denying me of my Internet service you silly clowns.


31 posted on 10/13/2009 8:05:18 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Drew68

In order to utilize the Two parent citizen tack of the NBC angle, she must LEGALLY establish who his father is. For that she nneds help in either verifying the Kenyan BC, or obtaining the Hawaiin BC. Untill then she is stymied because she lacks the legal verification.

I’ll bet that is just fine with you though.


32 posted on 10/13/2009 11:09:57 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: kidd
I would like to think so, but no court has yet determined that anyone has standing to force Obama to do what he’s supposed to do.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Apparently, citizens have “no standing” to question the emperor.

Fidel Castro could be nominated, placed on ballots.. ( With thousands upon thousands of citizens screaming at their government officials the entire time to check his credentials).

Citizens could elect Fidel Castro. ( With citizens screaming at elected officials and at their so-called “conservative” talk show weenies begging them to cover the issue.)

The Electoral College could vote for Fidel Castro for U.S. President. ( Again with thousands of citizen writing, faxing and calling in to object.).

Attorney Berg might even get Fidel's case all the way to the Supreme Court. ( With a minimum of 250,000 FedEX letters arriving begging the Supreme court to hear the case.)

The Congress could approve him.( With thousands of citizens writing, calling, and faxing in objection.)

And...Citizens have “no standing” to go to court and ask that our Constitution be upheld, and Fidel Casto’s natural born status examined.

Somehow, I don't think this is what our Founding Fathers had in mind.

33 posted on 10/13/2009 11:45:48 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: mono

Well, you’re right about that. It’s too bad the social opprobrium against following up on Constitutional prerequisites is so strong in this political environment that only an Orly Taitz is willing to stand tall for what really counts!

Barack Obama should just show us his long form birth certificate. The longer this story goes on, the more evil Obama will appear and the more “in the tank” the MSM will appear.

Us birthers won’t be embarrassed because any person with an IQ above 80 can see that Obama is clearly being fraudulent with the public.


34 posted on 10/14/2009 6:13:51 AM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the World Dances With You!)
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To: kidd
She hasn't been allowed to prove/disprove it.

A lot of don't get why she just didn't go to Hawaii and ask for documents under UIPA (Hawaii's Uniform Information Provision Act) which is stronger than FOIA in many ways, and demands that public information be made available to any member of the public (Gee, what a concept!)

As far as "privacy" goes, once the COLB hit his website, guess what, he doesn't have any. It's the law in Hawaii. All documentation behind the COLB is public property. We also have a right, by that state's laws, dto see the amendments to the record the authorities admit have been made.

naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com

There is really no further need for endless speculation. It's going to state court and documents will be coughed up.

35 posted on 10/25/2009 9:21:02 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Congratulations Obama Voters! You are not prejudiced. Unpatriotic, maybe. Dumb definitely.)
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To: kidd; BertWheeler
She hasn't been allowed to prove/disprove it.

A lot of don't get why she just didn't go to Hawaii and ask for documents under UIPA (Hawaii's Uniform Information Provision Act) which is stronger than FOIA in many ways, and demands that public information be made available to any member of the public (Gee, what a concept!)

As far as "privacy" goes, once the COLB hit his website, guess what, he doesn't have any. It's the law in Hawaii. All documentation behind the COLB is public property. We also have a right, by that state's laws, to see the amendments to the record the authorities admit have been made.

naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com

There is really no further need for endless speculation. It's going to state court and documents will be coughed up.

36 posted on 10/25/2009 9:24:10 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Congratulations Obama Voters! You are not prejudiced. Unpatriotic, maybe. Dumb definitely.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

“But “nuts” generally is “nuts”.”

She doesn’t have any and he has 2 maybe!


37 posted on 10/25/2009 9:30:02 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Kenny Bunk
In God I trust, but if you believe we're going to see the documents, that's almost as good for me. Gee, no more sleepless nights wondering, tossing and turning. Finally, all will be revealed as to why he's so solicitous about this big birth certificate! Doesn’t really solve the “natural born citizen” issue but I'd still love to see his majesty brought to an all time low in popular opinion. After that, "His Royal Impotence” will be more lame duck than any other POTUS ever was during their second term! (Positively giddy with glee, I am!)
38 posted on 10/26/2009 7:56:58 PM PDT by scottiemom ("As a Texas public school teacher, I would highly recommend private school")
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To: scottiemom
After that, "His Royal Impotence” will be more lame duck than any other POTUS ever was during their second term! (Positively giddy with glee, I am!)

Watch that giddiness, Ma! However, The Kenny Bunk Passamaquoddy Indian Crystal Ball, which is made from genuine Maine Lake Ice that has somehow survived Global Warming says:

There will be no Second Term for our Putative POTUS.
Kerry will replace Hillary as SoS
He and Joey Plugs from Delaware will run Foreign Policy
She will campaign her impressive duff off in 2011 DemoPrimaries
Obama is going to use her as his Australian Tag Team Partner
She is just as much a s Marxist as he ... and smarter
George Soros will cover the whole thing out of petty cash

The GOP will recycle Bob Dole. His running mate will be Dede Scozzafava.

39 posted on 10/27/2009 7:30:49 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Congratulations Obama Voters! You are not prejudiced. Unpatriotic, maybe. Dumb definitely.)
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