Skip to comments.Maybe DVD Sales Collapsed Because Movies Suck
Posted on 10/14/2009 8:02:11 AM PDT by AreaMan
Maybe DVD Sales Collapsed Because Movies Suck
Posted By John Nolte On October 13, 2009 @ 2:31 pm In Entertainment, News | 163 Comments
Everyone seems to have an opinion as to why DVD sales have cratered since hitting their peak in 2006, but no ones looking at the obvious answer. Plunging sales have been blamed on piracy , competing technologies such as video games and low-priced rental outlets like Redbox  everything but the quality of the actual films.
First and foremost, Im a movie lover. Nothing competes for my attention in this regard, including dollar rentals and the like. But Im just not buying anywhere near the number of new releases I did just ten years ago. Obviously, this is anecdotal evidence, so make your own comparisons:
1998  I purchased 15 of the top 20 money makers
1999  18 of the top 20.
2000  16 of the top 20.
2001  14 of the top 20.
And nothings changed. My tastes are the same. I still enjoy and dont regret a single purchase (well, maybe Planet of the Apes but I keep watching thinking it will get better). Now flash-forward to the last few years and the numbers collapse:
2006  5 of the top 20.
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I agree. Movies today, are drivel.
You get 150 minutes of what looks like a video game and 5 minutes of bad acting.
There is no originality any more..its all reworking the classics.
When moviemakers started filming cartoon characters like Casper, Flintstones, I had it!
Those Hollywood Libs can go jump in the great pond of bankruptcy.
Another “fine” Time-Lies-Warner-Turner company.
Don’t forget that Steven Spielberg was busy producing The Flintstones movie at the same time he was directing Shindler’s List.
I use Netflix too. What I really like is the free streaming movies I can watch on my computer monitor.
Few new movies are good enough to buy. I understand younger people never read and won’t tolerate character development but some of us require it in entertainment. I buy movies if there’s something worth multiple viewings. Explosions and car chases are boring to me. I liked Slumdog Millionaire (may have to watch more Indian cinema), UP and Marley & Me. I thought Gran Torino was OK nothing special and Star Trek was an abomination. Those are the only new movies I’ve seen.
Almost all of the DVD’s I have baught in the past year are TV collections: The complete Dick Van Dyke show, Venture Brothers, Dr. Who (which I transferred to .avi, edited, and burned back to disk, eliminating all of the forced “gayity”.) Yes, most movies are junk, made for the cheers of other Hollywood dwellers, and not even to make money. (How else do you explain PIXAR still making good movies that sell like crazy, and the rest of Sodomywood cranking out “artistic successes” that fail at the box office?)
so of course Michigan and Connecticut are now heavily subsidizing movie production with tax dollars to create even MORE DVD’s that won’t sell
It's not that hard to find something if you enjoy older movies. Netflix is far superior to the local Blockbuster for classic films. Try finding films like "How Green Was My Valley" or "The Long Grey Line" locally.
Back during the peak of the video rental business, those titles were on the shelves - but not now.
Dont forget that Steven Spielberg was busy producing The Flintstones movie at the same time he was directing Schindlers List.
Darn good thing he was able to keep the two straight...
eeeeeVA!!.....Gobbels and I are going bowling. Then we are going to invade Poland. Yabba Dabba Do!
Get netfix. For $17 a month you get all you can watch (max three at a time). Your account lets you have three lists at once. I have one for me, one for my wife, and one for my daughter. When I send a movie back, the send me one from my list, ditto with my wife and daughter. And you NEVER have to spend money or time going to the video store trying to beat a late fee.
If the movie is scratched or broken when it arrives, you go online and report it and they send you another that same day if it is early enough.
Let’s be totally honest for a moment with ourselves....
When was the last time you had an “first screening raiders of the lost ark moment” in a movie? Pretty freaking rare. Movies are too predictable, too slow and are one way communication. They don’t hold our attention. So yes they suck.
And... Chris Pine is supposedly going to be the next "Jack Ryan". I wonder which Clancy novel is about to be mangled?
3 of us were watching “No Country for Old Men”. I fell asleep. The next day I asked the other 2 how it had ended. No one knew. They fell asleep, too. I definitely didn’t care enough to actually watch the piece of crap again.
The basic problem is “corporate Hollywood”, non-entertainment corporations buying entertainment corporations as investments, ignoring the purpose of why they are entertainment corporations in the first place.
A bad economic model: make a few huge blockbuster movies a year.
A movie with a $200m budget that makes $220m at the box office is worth less than a movie that costs $2m and makes $30 million at the box office. Simple fact. However, if just a few blockbusters fail, it risks the entire studio.
A good economic model: Golan-Globus, Cannon films. They produced dozens of low budget movies, and if just a few of them were popular, they paid for the production of all of them, and made a healthy profit as well. Better yet, a lot of them were popular, and are still remembered today. Golan-Globus made a fortune.
The difference being that Golan-Globus made movies that their audiences wanted to see, but corporate Hollywood makes movies *they* wanted their audiences to see. This is not a subtle difference.
But corporate Hollywood is utterly blind to this simple equation. How many anti-Iraq war movies did they crank out, even though they all went stinker at the box office? Pattern recognition failure.
It has been known for decades that the most profitable movies are family friendly, with good writing and acting.
But corporate Hollywood doesn’t want to do that. Instead, it wants a lot of action, a lot of cgi, nothing controversial or innovative, formula plot and the same tiny group of homogeneous actors.
Those 50 copies are bought at a reduced (negotiated) price and then sold off “used” after a set period of time.
And yet Hollywood passed on distributing Mel Gibson's The Passion Of The Christ.
They were free to do so but the shareholders should have divested since the studios work against the profit motive in favor of politics.
yup, and got to meet U-dog (and Trix rabbit) creator Joe Harris at a cartoon fan convention
With the internal politics of Hollywood, the losses of that $220million movie would be written against that debut hit (or fledgling hit) to protect the clout of A-list directors/actors. Hollywood engages in creative accounting and that "food cart" could be padded with all sorts of expenses. Same with "promotion" costs.
Another thing is when the corporation owns a tv-cable channel. Ever wonder why the Batman movie with "Arnold" aired so much? Time-Warner owns HBO. Pad the calendar until it breaks even.
And yet, when a film DOES hit (like the first Burton Batman) Hollywood engages in creative accounting to declare that it never turned a profit (writer Sam Hamm was to get a percent of the profits).
And the people who play these games and rape 13 year olds with alcohol and pill cocktails dare to lecture us about a “culture of corruption”.
Yeah...as an old jet mechanic, I loved the scenes with the Tomcats.
One of the most beautiful jet fighters ever to take to the sky.
Got all the old classics on VHS; the new flicks - made for imbeciles and teenyboppers - pretty much suck. End of story.
I will, however, rent the new Star Trek and Transformers flicks when they come out.
I buy only selected DVDs.
Things like “Casablanca”, “The Best Years of Our Lives” (my favorite!), “Monty Python and the Holy Grail”, “Animal House”, “Das Boot”, “Band of Brothers” and so on.
And, of course, I admit that I love all the Pixar stuff, although I didn’t like “Wall-e” as much as the others...
I have never and will never pay close to $20 for a just-released DVD. (I’ll order it on Netflix)
I enjoy the old TV series also, right now I am working my way through the original Dark Shadows, poor quality filming because it was a daytime soap, but very entertaining nonetheless.
How Green Was My Valley - a masterpiece. Incredibly moving.
I have to admit that Das Boot was a surprisingly good movie, I too buy mostly older stuff and the very few newer ones that are good(not many of those).
Since the entertainment unions are a fixture in California, I have long thought that they could set up their own studio, with a very different character from the typical.
To start with, the production, writers, actors, musicians, etc., unions all agree that everybody is just paid scale, across the board. The emphasis is on production volume, that is “a little work for everyone”, instead of “all the work for just a few”.
Productions would be very low budget, and ordered towards vignette and variety shows with different casts and production teams, like the original Twilight Zone, American Bandstand, and variety shows.
Profits from series sales and syndication get plowed back into more productions. Eventually create a cable syndicate with two or three channels. If, and only if, one of the shows becomes a hit, it and its cast can be contracted off to a network, entering the major leagues, as motivation to do quality work.
Thus the public gets good acting and writing and a bunch of programs to watch, even if they are on a budget; and the union’s rank and file actually get some profit and exposure for a change, instead of starving while a few on the ‘A’ list get all the work.
Still haven't seen it. IMO, the Coen Brothers topped out with THE BIG LEBOWSKI.....
Of course he purchased his fewest the year sales peaked. And like so many stories of Hollywood poverty this one is blown out of proportion, they’ve “collapsed” to about 7 billion dollars this year, plus another 4 or 5 on rentals.
My favorite Coen Brothers movie is “Intolerable Cruelty.” Very funny.
Last year, I put together a big load for the Salvation Army Store. Nearly 80 DVDs, almost 200 music CDs and over 100 vinyl LPs. Why? I can download almost any song I like from Napster or Rhapsody, and rent almost any movie from Net Flix.
You can watch it FOR FREE on Netflix.
Most of today’s movies are junk. there are a few but you have to sort through the garbage to find them.
We all have our personal favorites. Mine are...
Fall of the Roman Empire
War and Peace (1967 Rissian version)
Saving Private Ryan
And that is just the short list!
some are more personal..
The Court Jester
20,000,000 miles to Earth
Tribute to a Bad Man.
There are also many others. I have found I enjoy some of those really bad si fi movies from the 1950’s!
I noticed that many foreign films have brought new creativity to the screen. Some of the modern Si Fi from Korea is definitly worth watching!
And almost any 1940’s WB releases with Humphry Bogart or Errol Flynn. they have a quality that has not been matched.
Very true. And the VHS sales collapsed for the same reason, right?
Just watched it for free on Netflix.
Downfall was excellent. We also recently watched CitizenX. The story is based in Russia during the Cold War and deals with a detective who is assigned to track down the worst serial killer in history. The movie is based on a true story.
Agree. No Country ended badly. I didn’t see the point.
The morality of the psychopathic killer - a man who didn’t lie, and never failed to keep a promise.
The futility of the law man - a step behind, too old and slow, and too scarred to retire at peace.
The intervention of fate - moral psycho is T-boned. Purchases shirt from boy, who’s clearly seen his face, yet fails to kill the boy.
re: >Splash the zeros...
The filming of that caused quite a few raised eyebrows up the Navy chain of command because some of the Tomcat pilots were really hot-dogging and pushing the envelope. One of the Tomcats went down to the deck and almost flamed out and splashed himself, but recovered nicely. It’s clearly visible in the movie IF you’re looking for it... /g
There are several websites which track upcoming DVD releases. Some of them allow you to register and to flag titles for an email notification when they’re going to be released.
Some of those I picked-up this way over the last couple of years were:
The Final Countdown
Taras Bulba (Yul Brynner)
Kings of the Sun (Yul Brynner)
El Cid (Charlton Heston)
The other great thing is that some of these have been digitally re-mastered and restored before release. And, as VR noted, they’re usually price quite reasonably.
Sadly, the one I’m really waiting for, so far in vain is:
Paradise (Phoebe Cates)... /g
Yeah, I always wondered about that pilot taking his F-14 down that close to the water, and also how close in they were playing with the “Zeros” (really Texans). Oh well, by the time the brass found out about it, the Nimitz was probably already back in port.
You too, huh? ;)
Check on Youtube...I think you may find what you're looking for, if it has not already been removed.
Instead the financial rewards are on instant gratification “hits”. Never mind that the public will watch a King Kong, Gone With The Wind, Greatest Story Ever Told, or Laurence of Arabia for decades bringing in much money to the studio (and those involved).
Was it the “biggest non-holiday opening weekend ever”? If not, pull the ads after 3 weeks.
Or it may have something to do with the fact that if you buy a movie, at some point you will have to buy it again in some new format. I’m speaking as someone who has entire film libraries in CED, laser, VHS and DVD formats and who is refusing to buy ONE DAMNED Blu-Ray!!!!! Got IT, Japan?
The difference is that VHS sales gave way to DVD sales at comparable prices, vs. DVD sales are giving way to cheap streaming/rental. Where retailers were selling VHS or DVD for $5-50 a pop, those sales are being replaced by rentals at $0.50-$5 per viewing. People aren’t watching much more, but they’re paying 1/10th to watch.
What can I say? I love the old classics... /g
Check on Youtube...I think you may find what you're looking for, if it has not already been removed.
I'm sure a clip can be found, but it really merits the fully-remastered hi-definition treatment! (3-D would be great!)
BTW, another great flick I found from the source above which only became available a year or so ago was "The 300 Spartans", with Richard Egan. It was a well-done but much more historically accurate retelling of the tale.
Oh there’s plenty to watch via Netflix. Almost anything you want to see is available; I’m adding to my queue much faster than I can empty it. Sure a lot may be drivel, but it’s drivel _I_ want to see, when I want, on my own terms, without commercial interruption.
With 150+ in my queue now, there’s no point in buying a movie when it will be an optimistic 3 years before I get a chance to watch anything a second time (and that’s without any more additions to the list).
I expect my only movie purchases in the next 5 years will be a dozen Blu-ray discs for those very few I re-watch and want to possess (Koyaanisqatsi, Watchmen, Matrix, Blade Runner, Being Human, Truman Show, etc.).