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California math scores among nation's worst
OC Register ^ | 10/14/09 | Fermin Leal

Posted on 10/14/2009 2:35:01 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

About 30 percent of fourth-graders and 23 percent of eight-graders in California tested proficient math tests from the National Assessment of Education Progress, ranking the state near the bottom nationally.

Only students in Mississippi, Alabama and Washington, D.C. had lower scores on the tests, commonly referred to as the "nation's report card." (See an interactive graphic on the scores here.)

Nationwide, 38 percent of fourth-graders and 33 percent of eighth-graders performed at proficient levels. Scores for English tests will be released in coming weeks.

Fewer than 170,000 students in the country were tested per grade in the exams administered last school year. Scores were not broken down beyond the state level. In Orange County, fewer than 100 students take the test each year. The names of participating schools are not released.

Both national and state scores have remained about the same since 2006.

Local and state educators each year downplay the significance of California's results. They say the tests don't take into account the uneven concentrations of English learners in states, different teaching standards and small sample sizes.

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; matheducation; mathscores; worst

1 posted on 10/14/2009 2:35:01 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Yes, particularly among members of the legislature!


2 posted on 10/14/2009 2:36:22 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (DEFUND THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE NOW!)
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To: NormsRevenge

When I went to grade school (MANY years ago) in Central Illinois, several students transferred in from CA over the years, and the policy in our school district at that time was to place the CA students a grade behind what they had been in, in CA. Of course now, the IL schools are likely to be just as bad, so they can transfer to the same grade.


3 posted on 10/14/2009 2:37:51 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Dos y dos = ocho.


4 posted on 10/14/2009 2:38:04 PM PDT by unkus
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To: NormsRevenge
the failure of government schools - how did the Chicago schools do under our esteemed Sec'y of Education?
5 posted on 10/14/2009 2:39:20 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: NormsRevenge

TEACHING MATH IN 1950:
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is 4/5 of the price. What is his profit?
TEACHING MATH IN 1960:
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is 4/5 of the price, or $80. What is his profit?
TEACHING MATH IN 1970:
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is $80. Did he make a profit?
TEACHING MATH IN 1980:
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is $80 and his profit is $20. Your assignment: Underline the number 20.
TEACHING MATH IN 1990:
A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish and inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habitat of animals or the preservation of our woodlands. He does this so he can make a profit of $20.

What do you think of this way of making a living? Topic for class participation after answering the question: How did the birds and squirrels feel as the logger cut down their homes? (There are no wrong answers).
TEACHING MATH IN 2005:
Un hachero vende una carretada de Madera pare $100. ¡El costo de la producción es $80….


6 posted on 10/14/2009 2:40:51 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: NormsRevenge

WOW! We have the same thing happening right here in Dallas, Texas!

I wonder, what could California schools and Texas schools possible have in common?


7 posted on 10/14/2009 2:41:31 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: NormsRevenge
The most fertile, blessed land on earth has managed to drive itself to utter, irredeemable bankruptcy. Could this be home to a race of stupid humans?
8 posted on 10/14/2009 2:42:42 PM PDT by Hans (th)
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To: NormsRevenge

Dumb, ignorant and unable to mathematically figure out what percentage the government is taking from their paychecks — the perfect Democratic voter block.


9 posted on 10/14/2009 2:48:48 PM PDT by avacado
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To: NormsRevenge

Who needs math? Everything is done for them by computers, sales clerks give you exact change, no need to count. That’s the amount the register says. No need to figure out cost per item, it’s in the little notes by the price on the shelf. Did they ever wonder what they would do if we had a power blackout for weeks? Oh and they don’t need to figure how much supplies is needed for a home improvement project either. If they don’t buy enough, they can always go back to Lowes or Home Depot to buy more. If they buy too much they could just return the extra....that is if they have a home to improve upon. Sorry NEA, but this is what happens when you put Johnny’s self esteem ahead of an education. It just makes him stupid, but happy.


10 posted on 10/14/2009 2:48:55 PM PDT by lula ( If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?)
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To: dfwgator

that’s funny


11 posted on 10/14/2009 2:51:10 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: NormsRevenge

the problem is, we are not spending enough on education. /s


12 posted on 10/14/2009 2:52:09 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: NormsRevenge

hmmm. remove the illegals from your schools who are sucking resources out of the system and maybe smaller class sizes will help?
oh,that would also cut down on the English as a second language classes freeing yet more resources! Fewer bilingual classes,more math teachers. Maybe the math is too difficult for the people in charge?


13 posted on 10/14/2009 2:53:59 PM PDT by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: dfwgator

perfect


14 posted on 10/14/2009 2:55:08 PM PDT by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: TLI
WOW! We have the same thing happening right here in Dallas, Texas!

I wonder, what could California schools and Texas schools possible have in common?

From the Dallas Morning News: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/101509dntexnaep.217043b3b.html

AUSTIN – Black students in Texas scored at or near the top compared with their counterparts across the nation on a national math test this year, while the state as a whole ranked near the middle on the "Nation's Report Card" exam.

Overall, Texas ranked 27th on the fourth grade exam and 18th on the eighth grade exam. The state's ranking was primarily the result of a large proportion of minority students – who typically underperform white students on standardized tests – compared with other states.

White fourth graders in Texas tied for fifth place in their peer group and Hispanic fourth graders in Texas ranked eighth nationwide. White and Hispanic eighth graders each ranked fourth within their respective peer groups.

15 posted on 10/14/2009 2:56:21 PM PDT by Texican72
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To: TLI

Interestingly, in the same study, Texas schools had some of the highest grades.


16 posted on 10/14/2009 2:57:09 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Hans
You know how some believe its good immigration policy to admit the world's best and brightest? California doesn't.

And the natives are not much better, thanks to the CTA/USED.

17 posted on 10/14/2009 2:57:22 PM PDT by skeeter (Pterocarya fraxinifolia)
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To: NormsRevenge

Think where they would be without all those Asian-Americans skewing the results.


18 posted on 10/14/2009 2:58:46 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (ZerOcare: Bureaucratic best practices equals death panels.)
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To: avacado

So what does it mean that Alabama and Mississippi are worse?


19 posted on 10/14/2009 2:59:52 PM PDT by jaxon72
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To: depressed in 06

I hear ya.

strange how subtle cultural differences lead to such different results, I mean, aren’t we all, family first, gang 2nd?


20 posted on 10/14/2009 3:00:28 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: jaxon72

My daughter spends her summers in OC...the school year in Mississippi. I got the two of the rear ends covered..


21 posted on 10/14/2009 3:03:24 PM PDT by vetvetdoug (FUBO, a fashion statement for conservatives.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Something like only 5% of the Latino boys from immigrants even come close to graduating high school, so that can’t be doing anything good for the math results.


22 posted on 10/14/2009 3:03:26 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: NEMDF

I was told that the same policy was in place in Virginia in the late 1950s, to put kids transferring from schools in California back one grade automatically.


23 posted on 10/14/2009 3:04:32 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: NormsRevenge
BARRAK HUSSEIN OBAMA, mmmm....mmmm....mmmm!
24 posted on 10/14/2009 3:10:40 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: skeeter

States don’t have any say in immigration policy.


25 posted on 10/14/2009 3:16:19 PM PDT by DB
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To: lula

I tend to agree. Literacy and ability to do simple calculations are no longer necessary. I have watched the Third Worlder’s at McDonald’s; they simply push the little icon on the screen. Heck! Even Obama can be president simply tell him what to say on a teleprompter!


26 posted on 10/14/2009 3:17:02 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: NormsRevenge
California!

The same state that celebrates Harvey Milk Day!

( And...Thousands upon thousands of California parents and taxpayers **willingly** agree to keep these atheistic Marxist indoctrination centers of ignorance open!)

27 posted on 10/14/2009 3:18:30 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: Verginius Rufus

In the late 1950s and early 1960s California schools were the best in the country by a wide margin.


28 posted on 10/14/2009 3:20:06 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: NormsRevenge

“23%”? , said the state school czar,Quantalvius Gomez, “that’s not so bad—it’s 8 out of 10, isn’t it?”

/sarc


29 posted on 10/14/2009 3:30:25 PM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (Dreams from My Father--(food, shelter, and education from some typical white folks)
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To: jaxon72
"So what does it mean that Alabama and Mississippi are worse?"

The liberal indoctrination is in all public schools in all states.

30 posted on 10/14/2009 3:34:00 PM PDT by avacado
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To: NormsRevenge

“California math scores among nation’s worst”

What a suprise (/sarc).
Given the article from “Newsweek” (or was it “TIME”) that I sent my
family member at Mississippi State University entitled:
“The Mississippication of California”.
Back in the later part of the 1990s, IIRC.

(for once, the major media noted that the Liberal NUT-BURGER
approach to the alien invasion actually did lead to a degradation
of California’s public school system.)

California was the envy of the other 49 US states (and perhaps the rest
of the Earth)...until they decided that they had to let invaders into
the system...so they wouldn’t be called “racists”.

Cruel empires can fall by being too mean.
Decent empires fail by being too FREAKIN’ NICE!!!!


31 posted on 10/14/2009 3:40:21 PM PDT by VOA
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To: DB

I know. But they sure can do their best to attract as many as new arrivees possible.


32 posted on 10/14/2009 4:01:12 PM PDT by skeeter (Pterocarya fraxinifolia)
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To: Jewbacca

True, particulary as the general trend is that the scores increase, becoming almost respectable, the further north you go.
What can I say; Texas is just squared away...


33 posted on 10/14/2009 4:02:19 PM PDT by ArmyTeach
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To: paul51

“the problem is, we are not spending enough on education. /s”

And in DC English is a 2nd language (lowest scores, highest money)


34 posted on 10/14/2009 4:04:09 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: dfwgator
So true - the socialists have destroyed so much in America and refuse to accept responsibility. It will get worse...

TEACHING MATH IN 2015:
Un hachero vende una carretada de Madera pare $100. ¡El costo de la producción es $80….

35 posted on 10/14/2009 4:05:31 PM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: jaxon72

“So what does it mean that Alabama and Mississippi are worse?”

The public schools are from the dregs of Mississippi.

Mississipi resolved federal lawsuits simply by ceasing to fund public schools. Taxes went down and normal people could afford very good quality private schools.

It’s like charter schools, but without government intervention.

These tests were only for public schools.

The sad side of this is the MS public schools are something like 80% black student population.


36 posted on 10/14/2009 4:14:41 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: avacado

Nope, not the issue. There is a two-tiered system in Mississippi.

Almost all normal kids go to private school.


37 posted on 10/14/2009 4:15:48 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: MARTIAL MONK
Yep, I was there. Monterey. Great teachers in every area. DR Arabia for human anatomy/phyisology and microbiology and DR G for chemistry. Just as good in English. We studied H.I. Hayakawa on propaganda in senior English. Sound like high school? Great math teachers; it wasn't their fault that algebra wasn't my forte.
38 posted on 10/14/2009 4:15:50 PM PDT by ArmyTeach
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To: Jewbacca

Are you saying the state of Mississippi does not fund its own public educational system?

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/article/20091014/NEWS01/910140329/1002/Schools-sacrifice


39 posted on 10/14/2009 10:52:06 PM PDT by jaxon72
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To: jaxon72

No, I am stating that Mississippi wisely kept school taxes cheap so normal people can opt-out of public schools system, an interesting by-product of the “segregation academy” days.

Here is an article that is (wrongly) critical of the white-flight from the public schools, but which contains some of the numbers (just first find on Bing; I am sure there are better articles):

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3626/is_200504/ai_n14900755/

“This article identifies the barriers to educational integration in one Mississippi Delta town. Throughout the Mississippi Delta region, there are predominantly White private academies located in close proximity to predominantly Black public schools. Although de facto segregation among students exists throughout the country, the segregation in the Mississippi Delta is different. Specifically, many White students attend private academies that do not offer greater educational opportunity [A LIE, AS THE BLACKS ARE EXTREMELY HOSTILE TO WHITES] than the predominantly Black public schools. More than 40 individuals in Delta County were interviewed in order to identify the specific barriers to educational integration.”


40 posted on 10/15/2009 7:04:24 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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