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US-Mexico groups urges new US assault weapons ban
AP ^ | Oct 14, 2009 | CATHERINE E. SHOICHET

Posted on 10/14/2009 2:37:54 PM PDT by neverdem

MEXICO CITY — The United States should reinstate a Clinton-era ban on assault weapons to prevent such guns from reaching Mexican drug cartels, former officials from both countries said in a report released Tuesday.

The group, which includes two former U.S. ambassadors to Mexico, also said the U.S. should do more to stop the smuggling of firearms and ammunition into Mexico by stepping up investigations of gun dealers and more strictly regulating gun shows.

The Binational Task Force on the United States-Mexico Border listed the assault weapons ban as a step the U.S. should take immediately to improve security in both countries. The 10-year ban expired in 2004...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Mexico; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: adios2ndamendment; assaultweaponsban; awb; banglist; bohica; mexico; narcoterror; nau; ruleoflaw; spp
Fully automatic weapons like machine guns are not "easily purchased in the United States." You can't buy one made after 1986. You have to get a special permit from the BATFE that costs two or three hundred dollars to buy them legally. Many states ban them outright.

Semiautomatic "assault rifles," one shot per trigger pull, are just old news. The ban that expired banned semiautomatic "assault rifles" just for cosmetic features, e.g. folding stocks, pistol grips, bayonet lugs, flash suppressors, etc.

Semi-Automatic Firearms and the “Assault Weapon” Issue

1 posted on 10/14/2009 2:37:54 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Has anyone of these tool organizations asked where the cartels are getting their Kalashnikovs from?


2 posted on 10/14/2009 2:42:18 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: neverdem

I remember reading that the guns were actually coming from the Mexican military and being sold to the highest bidder ( drug cartel ) by corrupt government officials. It may not be true but is more likely that the guns coming from U. S citizens.


3 posted on 10/14/2009 2:42:42 PM PDT by BeckB
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To: neverdem

Right! Because those guys willing to murder people over a drug debt wouldn’t want to get an assault weapon for fear of breaking the law.


4 posted on 10/14/2009 2:43:30 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: randomhero97
Has anyone of these tool organizations asked where the cartels are getting their Kalashnikovs from?

EBay? Wal-Mart? Lord knows that the iron-tight border of Mexico could not allow anyone to bring one ashore on any coast, nor is there even the remotest chance they came up through Guatemala where such weapons are easier to get. < /sarcasm>

5 posted on 10/14/2009 2:57:06 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: neverdem

Please Dims, push this envelope given the current political atmosphere, but know you do so at your own peril.


6 posted on 10/14/2009 3:00:39 PM PDT by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: autumnraine
Right! Because those guys willing to murder people over a drug debt wouldn’t want to get an assault weapon for fear of breaking the law.

Correct, but it goes along with let the Americans do it, we already cloth, feed , educate, house and pay their medical bills, now they want us to enforce their laws. Bunch of sorry bast***.

7 posted on 10/14/2009 3:00:52 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: neverdem

Last time I drove across the border at Mexicali last April, the Mexican Customs agents didn’t even bother stopping me. All you have to do is drive through the “Nada Para Declarar” lane and you are in. I could have filled up my trunk with AKs and nobody would have done anything.

However, going from Mexicali to Calexico, CA, you have to wait sometimes for an hour, while every form of beggar/street salesperson is pumping you for pesos. And, there is a damn good chance your car might get inspected....


8 posted on 10/14/2009 3:03:03 PM PDT by saluki_in_ohio (I got news for you folks: Republicans aren't conservative.)
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To: neverdem

GREAT! More business we’re giving the Russians


9 posted on 10/14/2009 3:08:40 PM PDT by GauchoUSA
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To: neverdem

Mexico should change its gun laws, and allow its free citizens to arm themselves. The government isn’t protecting them.


10 posted on 10/14/2009 3:09:26 PM PDT by pallis
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To: neverdem
Yeah, common knowledge is many in the Mexican gov are corrupt and, yes, believe this or not, many in that gov are on the take from the drug cartels. SO, our second amendment that grants us US citizens freedom to own firearms is at fault thus by restricting our freedoms with another assault weapons ban will keep the Mexican drug cartels from murdering Mexican citizens. Oh, I buy that. How about pushing the Mexican gov to adopt their own second amendment? Or we, the USA could start providing weapons to the common citizens of Mexico. Our support of the Contras come to mind. An armed society is a free society.
11 posted on 10/14/2009 3:19:44 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: neverdem

imagine the possibilities if the 30-some Million illegal hispanics in this country returned to Mexico and points south, determined to achieve law and order and economic stability at any cost.....6,000 years of no track record is pretty overwhelming,tho...so...Let’s blame America instead - yeah, that’s the ticket!


12 posted on 10/14/2009 3:24:21 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: neverdem

I fully expect our squalid federal government to address this by ensuring that nothing can easily cross the border...in the direction of Mexico. God help me for my intense desire to see so many members of our crap-stained political class meet the same fate as Benito Mussolini and his girlfriend.


13 posted on 10/14/2009 3:42:49 PM PDT by VR-21 (If it's a vision of the future you want......)
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To: neverdem; basil

CPT Clay Highly recommends Assault weapons and Ammo in the house of every FReeper and Patriot!!!


14 posted on 10/14/2009 3:44:07 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: CPT Clay
"CPT Clay Highly recommends Assault weapons and Ammo in the house of every FReeper and Patriot!!!

I'm with you CPT Clay, and with your permission would add...be loyal to the Constitution and founding ideals, not to any communist thug in our squalid government. They are not worthy of loyalty. They are only worthy of contempt.

15 posted on 10/14/2009 3:57:39 PM PDT by VR-21 (If it's a vision of the future you want......)
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To: neverdem; GOPsterinMA; woerm; bert; altura; bunster; waterhill; FlyingEagle; Playa Pete; ...

Ping!)))

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


16 posted on 10/14/2009 4:24:37 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Mexico - beyond your expectations!)
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To: neverdem

Pretty soon we’ll have enough 3rd world imported amnestied citizens that they can just vote away gun rights, because they DO and WILL vote just like their masters in their ‘homeland’ wish them to.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2362258/posts

[snip]* An overwhelming majority (69 percent) of people in Mexico thought that the primary loyalty of Mexican-Americans (Mexico- and U.S.-born) should be to Mexico. Just 20 percent said it should be to the United States.


17 posted on 10/14/2009 4:36:51 PM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB; All

“* An overwhelming majority (69 percent) of people in Mexico thought that the primary loyalty of Mexican-Americans (Mexico- and U.S.-born) should be to Mexico. Just 20 percent said it should be to the United States.”

Geep posting this and I will keep bumping it.

B U M P


18 posted on 10/14/2009 4:59:02 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

““* An overwhelming majority (69 percent) of people in Mexico thought that the primary loyalty of Mexican-Americans (Mexico- and U.S.-born) should be to Mexico. Just 20 percent said it should be to the United States.””

BTT!


19 posted on 10/14/2009 5:01:51 PM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: neverdem
The good news is that George Lopez is getting his own Late Night Conservative White Man Bashing Show on TBS in a few weeks.

Viva La Raza!

I don't know how his new Kidney, donated by his White Wife, thinks about it though.

20 posted on 10/14/2009 5:08:14 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Conservatives THINK people are smart. Liberals KNOW people are stupid.)
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To: neverdem

KMA Mexico !

Your lack of border an internal security is YOUR problem Mexico !

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Not your worry when you get kickbacks from drug an human trafficking but now your blaming the US !

Maybe ya’ll ought to build a fence er sumpthin......:o)


21 posted on 10/14/2009 5:37:46 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: neverdem

How about starting with an illegal immigrants ban in the US?


22 posted on 10/14/2009 6:08:08 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: CPT Clay

Got it!


23 posted on 10/14/2009 6:12:59 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: drypowder
our second amendment that grants Guarantees us US citizens freedom

words mean things, especially when speaking of God Given Rights...

24 posted on 10/14/2009 7:57:33 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force... Like fire, a dangerous servant & master. GW)
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To: saluki_in_ohio

just come in on foot, nobody will stop ya...


25 posted on 10/14/2009 7:59:08 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force... Like fire, a dangerous servant & master. GW)
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To: neverdem

Screw Mexico, if they didn’t want to buy these weapons there would be no market for them.


26 posted on 10/15/2009 9:12:13 AM PDT by Americanexpat
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To: neverdem

When it comes to drugs, the Mexican message is, “the reason why there is a supply of Mexican drugs is that there is an American demand....”

Yet here there are, not only advancing the fellacious claim that the primary source of fully-auto weapons is US citizens, but also that it is our duty to protect MEXICANS by outlawing such weapons here in the US.

The topper? Mexico just legalized drug possession.


27 posted on 10/15/2009 11:24:13 AM PDT by gaijin
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