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Sun's Plasma Balls Could Wipe Out Human Civilization....
Natural News ^ | October 11th, 2009

Posted on 10/14/2009 8:32:04 PM PDT by TaraP

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To: dragnet2

Depends upon the speed of the mass ejected. Typically take 2 to 5 days for a CME to reach earth. Some faster, some slower. Apparently the speeds range from 500 km/s to 3200 km/s for the mass itself. Protons can reach earth much faster, at somewhat lesser than the speed of light.

With SOHO and other sats monitoring the sun, we should get a day or so warning if not more. That is, if 0Bozo’s wunnerful gummint decided to actually make it public instead of using it as their crisis- remember, can’t let a good crisis go to waste.


101 posted on 10/14/2009 10:32:14 PM PDT by hadit2here ("Most men would rather die than think. Many do." - Bertrand Russell)
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To: staytrue
I disagree. Usually we get about 2 days warning that a CME is on the way

JMO...Howver, when I said *large*, I was thinking along the lines of something 1000 times larger then any previous event we happened to be aware of.

This should be no big deal.

Should be...lol....

I do have a masters in physics

Well, that is very impressive and commendable.

102 posted on 10/14/2009 10:54:12 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: hadit2here

see #102


103 posted on 10/14/2009 10:56:24 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

There is no likely scenario that would allow a 1000 times cme.

The one possiblity is an impact by a large object like a rogue jupiter that might cause this event and then, the odds of the cme aimed at earth is maybe one in a thousand if the 1000 times cme occurred.


104 posted on 10/14/2009 11:09:01 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue
There is no likely scenario that would allow a 1000 times cme.

I didn't say anything about a "likely scenario".

Fact is a CME 1000 times larger than anything we know about could happen. No?

105 posted on 10/14/2009 11:11:44 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: staytrue

It’s like the chances of you getting on a plane and crashing and dying are extremely remote...But it happens.


106 posted on 10/14/2009 11:16:21 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
Even their existence nearly beyond comprehension.

Existence itself is beyond comprehension, as far as that goes.

To see a world in a grain of sand,
And a heaven in a wild flower,
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand,
And eternity in an hour.

107 posted on 10/14/2009 11:19:38 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew
Even their existence is nearly beyond comprehension.

Existence itself is beyond comprehension, as far as that goes.

I agree, but compared to stars, everything else seems almost common...Stars are pretty neat.

What else burns a hole in space and time when it dies, or blow up with such intensity it can cast shadows 100 thousand light years away, while others spin like a massive searchlights sending out death ray beams across the universe.

108 posted on 10/14/2009 11:30:33 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

I guess I really wouldn’t want to argue the point. Looking at a telescopic image of the sun, it is hard to comprehend what is actually there.


109 posted on 10/14/2009 11:35:48 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: maine-iac7

WTH??? That’s just weird! One heck of a smoke ring...


110 posted on 10/14/2009 11:36:33 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: All

Read later


111 posted on 10/14/2009 11:43:35 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: dr_lew
You're reading my mind...

Ya know whats really an eye opener...Is one can look through an extremely powerful telescope at the stars, stars much larger than our sun, and they still only appears as tiny points of light, because of the great distances. Yet when this tiny planet turns revealing our star on the eastern horizon.....Man you know your close to that star....There ain't no mistaking it....lol

And looking at the moon at night, our star is generating so much light, you tell exactly where our star is even when it's dark, just by looking at the lunar surface.

I know it sounds really weird, but being this close to a star, just blows me away. lol...

112 posted on 10/14/2009 11:46:06 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
I know it sounds really weird, but being this close to a star, just blows me away. lol...

As long as we're on the subject, what wigs me out is that the darkness of space that we see at night is filled with sunlight. It is streaming away from us of course, but all the same, it is invisible.

113 posted on 10/15/2009 12:03:49 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: familyop

I didn’t know plasma’s were male....


114 posted on 10/15/2009 12:28:33 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: maine-iac7
I was without electricity for several weeks...My kids brought me a kerosene heater, I have a gas stove and could light it with a match, had no problems with cooking, flushing the toilet was the worse thing, but another son brought me lots of gallons of water to flush....As long as gas lines remain intact, the gas stove can be a source of heat....
115 posted on 10/15/2009 12:40:16 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: TaraP

We could also be wiped out without warning by Gamma- and X-rays spewed from a supernova explosion that may have happened billions of years ago. Puts Al Gore’s little climate change fraud in perspective.


116 posted on 10/15/2009 3:52:30 AM PDT by gorilla_warrior (Metrosexual hairless RINOs for hopey-changey bipartisan-ness)
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To: TaraP; All

http://books.google.com/books?id=HFFo2TNIu88C&pg=PA119&lpg=PA119&dq=aurora+transformer+saturation&source=bl&ots=_yJT6FfvYN&sig=wQ4QZ6_Zvs3dM9jzWhCX9QDd7bQ&hl=en&ei=HxTXSrGpIdng8AbsoMnoCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=aurora%20transformer%20saturation&f=false

People have been working this problem for some time now. Previous solar storms have incapacitated or fried distribution transformers, so that when a new one is put in or old one replaced, they make them solar-storm resistant.

http://k-inet.ee.t.kanazawa-u.ac.jp/~yamada/houkoku/PDF/020.pdf


117 posted on 10/15/2009 5:26:28 AM PDT by DBrow (Thank You Al Gore You Saved Earth!)
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To: ExGeeEye

If life seems jolly rotten, there’s something you’ve forgotten
And that’s to laugh and smile and dance and sing
When you’re feeling in the dumps, don’t be silly, chumps
Just purse your lips and whistle, that’s the thing

So, always look on the bright side of death
Just before you draw your terminal breath

Life’s a counterfeit and when you look at it
Life’s a laugh and death’s the joke, it’s true
You see, it’s all a show, keep them laughing as you go
Just remember the last laugh is on you

Always look on the bright side of life
And always look on the right side of life
Always look on the bright side of life
And always look on the right side of life


118 posted on 10/15/2009 5:45:58 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: mlo; All
Here MLO,

Since you've solved the one on Lee Harvey Oswaldo, you may be interested in
this as you hold the bilge from the MSM in such high regard.

I hacked it from Dan Rather's hard drive last night:


119 posted on 10/15/2009 6:20:02 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

Nope, freepers got that one right. If you think I hold the MSM in high regard, then you don’t know me very well. :-)


120 posted on 10/15/2009 6:59:31 AM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo

Do you hold the DNC in high regard?

How about Pelosi, Reid or Obama himself?

121 posted on 10/15/2009 7:14:40 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: dr_lew

and

Walk Wide

Come stride the galaxies
with me
Be free
To run with the sun
Be one
Hold hands with the Universe -
& the daisy.


122 posted on 10/15/2009 7:19:36 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" LINCOLN)
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To: BP2

Nope. How about you?


123 posted on 10/15/2009 7:34:22 AM PDT by mlo
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To: ForGod'sSake
WTH??? That’s just weird! One heck of a smoke ring...

Isn't it ever!

I always vacillate between being nervous about other world intelligences watching over our activities in a threatening way - to benevolent 'watchers' guarding this old planet to step in, if necc., should we reach the precipice of destroying ourselves.

I favor the last scenario for three reasons:

1: Obviously, with the millions of other planets in the Super Universe, earth cannot be the only one capable of supporting life,

2: If they're monitoring us - it seems for hundreds of y ears - they have, reasonable to assume, achieved a far superior level of intelligence, and

3: In that level, they have also conquered and evolved beyond the baser proclivities of we earthlings - who seem doomed to just repeat the cycles of ignorance, treadmill like.

So I despair a bit over us 'down here' ever growing up - and take a bit of comfort in thinking there is a benevolent, more intelligent entity, through emissaries, watching over us - call it/him/her what you will

(That's my story and I'm sticking to it ;o)...)

124 posted on 10/15/2009 7:37:24 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" LINCOLN)
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To: goat granny
As long as gas lines remain intact, the gas stove can be a source of heat....

Ideally, I would like a propane stove, water heater, heater-heater, etc. and a generator -

I love my wood stove for two reasons - sense of security and wood stove heat is so friendly.

I remember thinking, during the 19 days without power, thanks to the ice storm, "Now, how would such a storm have affected the folks up on the farm in the 30's-40's?"

Answer: Except for it being a slippery walk to the barn and coop - quickly solved with ashes - not at all, since they weren't dependent on that thin wire to the utility pole for means of heat, water and light.

We are too complacent in our vulnerability today.

125 posted on 10/15/2009 7:49:35 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" LINCOLN)
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To: dr_lew

Yup....At midnight sunlight is blasting past, lighting up the lunar surface like a massive flood light, with all surround space appearing nearly black, throwing off so much light, the tiny shadows formed by the moons of Jupiter, almost 800,000 kilometers away from the sun, can easily been seen from earth, moving across it’s surface. The intensity is mind bending.


126 posted on 10/15/2009 8:41:05 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: maine-iac7
Agree, we are vulnerable with all our modern conveniences...But I still like a furnace, wood burning stoves are great as an accessory. We had one on the farm and it cut our oil bill in half.. Hubby loved it, that was his job, to keep the stove going...he also did the chopping.. takes a man to do that..
127 posted on 10/15/2009 10:08:13 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: maine-iac7

Interesting take and you’re probably aware, life on this little blue planet has come to the brink of extinction on numerous occasions. The most recent near extinction event, if the scientific community™ is to be believed, was the eruption of Toba ~75,000 years ago. Presumably, only several thousand humans lived to tell the tale, so to speak. But anyway, I’m convinced Mankind is not capable of acting rationally over the long term. We are inclined towards many of the baser instincts that take hold whenever we forget about the true Watcher of the universe; the Creator Himself.


128 posted on 10/15/2009 10:58:21 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: ExGeeEye

I didn’t see Obamadanism on your list.


129 posted on 10/15/2009 11:04:58 AM PDT by montyspython ("I don't believe in 'no win' scenarios." - James T. Kirk)
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To: TaraP

Bollocks!


130 posted on 10/15/2009 11:05:38 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: TaraP

Gooness, gracious, great balls of fire!


131 posted on 10/15/2009 11:09:33 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Vaquero

Shucks, you beat met to it!


132 posted on 10/15/2009 11:10:01 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: InterceptPoint

bttt


133 posted on 10/15/2009 11:13:16 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: TaraP

134 posted on 10/15/2009 11:15:28 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: rlmorel

I thought the Earth was going to be destroyed by Chef’s Salty Chocolate Balls...


135 posted on 10/15/2009 11:28:42 AM PDT by Abundy
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To: TaraP

Mr. Sun is such a hater.


136 posted on 10/15/2009 11:32:04 AM PDT by smedley64 (Sun Tzu trumps Alinsky.)
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137 posted on 10/15/2009 2:18:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization

by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith


138 posted on 10/15/2009 2:19:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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139 posted on 10/15/2009 2:19:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: 21twelve

I just watched that episode not too long ago!
But I think it The Outer Limits?


140 posted on 10/15/2009 2:37:19 PM PDT by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: dfwgator
human sacrifice....dogs and cats living together.....mass hysteria!

Yep.


141 posted on 10/15/2009 2:38:11 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 266 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: TaraP

Al Gore will find some way to make a profit off of this.


142 posted on 10/15/2009 3:20:53 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: BenLurkin
In 1859, a CME known as the Carrington event produced auroras as far south as the equator and caused severe disruptions to the world's telegraph systems."

Hogwash! Reliable sources say it was a squirrel who chewed thru one of the telegraph lines in New York.........

143 posted on 10/15/2009 3:23:46 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Who's your Long Legged MacDaddy?)
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To: TaraP
Sun's Plasma Balls Could Wipe Out Human Civilization....

Now we know who wears the pants in that family.

144 posted on 10/15/2009 3:29:45 PM PDT by x
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To: BenLurkin

Major downer. A very bleak movie. It left me feeling like I did when I went to the planetarium as a kid and heard that the sun would eventually die out and leave earth lifeless. But I guess they really wanted all those scenes of mass destruction and couldn’t think of any way Nick Cage would survive the cataclysm.


145 posted on 10/15/2009 3:32:24 PM PDT by x
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To: TaraP
DOOOOOOM!


146 posted on 10/15/2009 3:42:54 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (God wants a Liberal or RINO hanging from every tree. Tar & feathers optional extras.)
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To: shibumi

“Driver, where you takin’ us?” ping.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LtPVBqQsf8


147 posted on 10/15/2009 3:50:52 PM PDT by Salamander ("All my toys are broken....and so am I, inside, Mom......")
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To: ForGod'sSake; TaraP

Nothing apocalyptic.

http://www.meteorologynews.com/2009/10/12/hole-punch-cloud-not-ufo-spotted-over-moscow/


148 posted on 10/15/2009 3:53:45 PM PDT by Salamander ("All my toys are broken....and so am I, inside, Mom......")
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To: Salamander; ForGod'sSake; TaraP
And firey balls are begotten of firey balls, as foretold by the prophets of the Firesign Theater:

"Before the beginning, there was this turtle. And the turtle was alone. And he looked around, and he saw his neighbor, which was his mother. And he lay down on top of his neighbor, and behold! she bore him in tears an oak tree, which grew all day and then fell over -- like a bridge. And lo! underneath the bridge there came a catfish. And he was very big. And he was walking. And he was the biggest he had seen. And so were the fiery balls of this fish, one of which is the sun, and the other, they called the moon."
149 posted on 10/15/2009 4:14:00 PM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: Salamander
Nothing apocalyptic.

Probably not but there doesn't seem to be any viable explanation how these "holes" or donuts form. Gotta wonder if there isn't something hitting our atmosphere, maybe from outside our solar system even. I don't guess we even know for sure our very own benevolent sun couldn't somehow be shooting directed particles of some kind at us occasionally. Truly interesting phenomenon in any case.

150 posted on 10/15/2009 4:49:49 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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