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What is Happening to Rush LImbaugh Matters
Townhall.com ^ | October 15, 2009 | Douglas MacKinnon

Posted on 10/15/2009 5:22:42 AM PDT by libstripper

It appears that the purveyors of political correctness and the ignorant or hate-filled on the far-left are about to exact their revenge against Rush Limbaugh. With the majority of the liberal mainstream media in their enraged and partisan corner, they are about to browbeat, threaten and even blackmail the required number of cowardly NFL owners needed to reject Limbaugh’s bid to purchase the St. Louis Rams.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nfl; rush
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This might be the time the left overreached. Rush is incredibly wealthy, loves professional football, and is a tenacious fighter. Right now he has an excellent libel case against anybody who published the two fabricated quotes. There's also another, lesser known tort, intentional interferece with contract, which those leftists who managed to dance around the libel issue might well be guilty of. Rush has also suffered several million dollars of actual damages, especially when the expenses he incured, and lost, in his bid to become an NFL owner are added to the money he probably would have made as an NFL owner. This means he will be able to sue a lot of people successfully and, in discovery, might be able to smoke out a lot more potential defendants. Hence, the upshot of all this might be a stinging defeat for those liberal smear tactics and deterrence of their future use.
1 posted on 10/15/2009 5:22:42 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

I love discovery....


2 posted on 10/15/2009 5:24:21 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Freedom's Fortress")
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To: libstripper

will be following this story. it is important.


3 posted on 10/15/2009 5:24:54 AM PDT by uncitizen (I'm mad as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore!!)
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To: libstripper

Bottom line, I hope Rush DOES take the guilty parties to court. Because if he doesn’t, it’s tantamount to throwing one’s hands up and surrendering. And let’s face it—if a guy like Limbaugh can’t win, what chance does a nobody like ME have against the smear machine when (not if, WHEN) it comes after us little people? You think what they put Joe the Plumber, et al, through was bad? Just wait.


4 posted on 10/15/2009 5:27:47 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: libstripper

The children are playing with matches again...

There is a double standard if not triple. In Rush’s case, the general adherance to a double standard by the NFL and others has effectively turned the PC-ism of individuals like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson into a constitutionally unauthorized set of tools with which they dilligently use in their attempts to deny, denegrate and destroy individuals of their own choosing. Once the double standard goes ‘triple’ it becomes a pseudo-precedent. Unfortunately for the Sharpsons and Jacktons of the world, Rush can retain a real lawyer who understands the Sharpson-Jackton Syndrome enough to be able to kick the legs out of the three-legged platform that this case and others like it seem to be supported by.


5 posted on 10/15/2009 5:30:10 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: libstripper

Here is my rant. I don’t want to post it anymore, but essentially, I point out that reversing the roles is kosher:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2362825/posts?page=15#15


6 posted on 10/15/2009 5:32:03 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: libstripper
When Rush first made the comment about McNabb (sp), I knew sometime somewhere it would be ‘twisted’ into a racist comment.
7 posted on 10/15/2009 5:32:39 AM PDT by duckman (My Grandma Isn't Shovel Ready!)
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To: libstripper
I know Rush will likely shy away from it in the name of "good sportsmanship" and try to be the bigger man.

Hopefully, I am wrong. I can tell you right away that if I were in the same position and these whacko's had interfered with a business transaction of mine in a public manner like this, I would declare war.

they cross the line every day in attacking conservatives, but his is so blatant even a liberal court would be unable to write it off. they caused serious injury and damage. I say it's time for Rush to take off the gloves.

8 posted on 10/15/2009 5:33:54 AM PDT by FunkyZero ("It's not about duck hunting !")
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To: libstripper
What they did to Rush is an attack aimed at all conservatives. OTOH - I am concerned about the fact that Rush was in bed with George Soros.
9 posted on 10/15/2009 5:34:17 AM PDT by chickadee
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To: libstripper
While I agree with you wholeheartedly, the question is, “Will Rush move forward with what I believe are clear cut cases of libel”?

The fact that these liberal scumbags made up the “quotes” is bad enough, but the bigger issue are the media scum who purposely echoed the same lies to the extent that it materially affected his attempted purchase of the Rams. Until these liberal vermin are “hit in the mouth” (and pocketbooks) with the same vigor and intensity as they exert, they will continue their tactics of sourceless smears and character assassination.

Every time I hear the words “the politics of personal destruction” my head nearly explodes, as it is almost always a communist-sympathizing Demonrat bemoaning it.

10 posted on 10/15/2009 5:34:34 AM PDT by Common Sense 101
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To: chickadee

The article doesn’t indicate Rush was working with Soros, it says that Soros financed a bid to take over the LA Dodgers in 2003. Fact check, fact check.


11 posted on 10/15/2009 5:39:56 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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To: chickadee

Try again. Reread that article. It sounds like Rush was working with someone who has worked with Soros. That’s like saying if you deal with a Congressman than has had dealings with someone crummy then you are in bed with that someone crummy. Logic does not follow.


12 posted on 10/15/2009 5:42:22 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: neodad
I love discovery....

It's still a two-way street....

13 posted on 10/15/2009 5:42:36 AM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: libstripper

Oh, I hope he sues the $hit out of somebody. It must be made clear to the American public that lies were fabricated to trash Rush and they’re prepared to do it to all of us.

“Play the audio”, that’s what Rush should challenge them to do. Thousands of hours of Rush audio and there is nothing to be found of him making these comments?


14 posted on 10/15/2009 5:44:00 AM PDT by ryan71 (Smells like a revolution)
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To: libstripper

I have a question. Why do conservatives expect Limbaugh to do all the heavy lifting for them? If you don’t like what the NFL did, don’t buy their product. If you don’t like what the “sports journalists” are saying about him, boycott their product.


15 posted on 10/15/2009 5:45:51 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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To: libstripper
Advertisers can run in any far-left publication or newspaper without fear as they know conservatives not only can’t or won’t employ the tactics of the left, but don’t have the media in their pocket to makes such threats stick.

It's past time that conservatives became organized to direct serious boycotts at certain companies, not to try and bully them in to taking any particular action like the left does, but to be used against any company that responds to bullying and boycott threats from the left such as those that dropped advertising from Glenn Beck's show.

Not sure who might bring about this organization, but if companies knew there was a real and large boycott awaiting them if they responded to leftist threats, companies would soon begin ignoring all boycott threats.

16 posted on 10/15/2009 5:46:14 AM PDT by Will88
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To: libstripper
Sorry. Rush can't do squat.

The NFL is an exclusive club, exempt from Federal Antitrust laws and score of others. If a majority of owners - 17 - vote no, that's it. He can't sue his way in.

Even suing Rev Al and Jackass is a problem as Rush is a "public figure". Slander and Libel have different 'tests' then. Plus, as we've found Rev Al owns nothing, its all in someone else's name. Jesse is prolly the same.

That being said here's own Family that never should have been allowed into 'the club'.

Now You See Him, Now You Don't
Getting a fix on Indianapolis Colts owner Bob Irsay's background isn't easy,
SI Vault, December 15, 1986
And yesterday Jim Irsay had the balls to say Rush is unfit, harrumph!

The things I could say about the old man would make people's hair stand on end! 'Jimmy' forgets people in the Chi area still KNOW what daddy was really like. (the construction industry here is a tight-knit circle)

17 posted on 10/15/2009 5:47:03 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: popdonnelly
If you don’t like what the NFL did, don’t buy their product. If you don’t like what the “sports journalists” are saying about him, boycott their product.

If the NFL has no need for Rush, they have no need for me...

18 posted on 10/15/2009 5:49:39 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (Liberals are always one genocide away from Utopia.)
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To: OCCASparky

When they decide to come after the “little guys”,
it’ll be to escort you at gunpoint to the railcar.

It’s really THAT serious. Rush damn well better fight back, and I believe he will. If he cannot get relief in our court system due to inherent anti-conservative bias,
well, he’ll be the virtual Crispus Attucks of Rev 2.


19 posted on 10/15/2009 5:50:19 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: libstripper
Pink Floyd "Learning to Fly"
Tounge Tied & Twisted
Sorry I have that on me IPOD as I type. Somehow it is approprate---The tounge tied & Twisted that is. . . .
I trully believe that the idiots that messed wiff my main man RUSH will cry UNCLE so many times they will wish they never heard of him.
Like messing wiff sasquatch. . . .
20 posted on 10/15/2009 5:51:06 AM PDT by Voter#537 (Barack Insane Obama-Wrong Place Wrong Time. Replacing Jimmah as worst CIC Ever)
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To: popdonnelly

For some, not me, boycotting the NFL would be the equivalent of boycotting food.

I hope you folks in this situation re-evaluate your priorities.


21 posted on 10/15/2009 5:51:56 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: libstripper

Among the owners of the Miami Dolphins are Fergie, Jennifer Lopez, Marc Anthony, Venus and Serena Williams, Emile and Gloria Esteban. Is the lib media going to do a background check on them to see what they might have done or said in the last 10 years? Pathetic...


22 posted on 10/15/2009 5:52:51 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: libstripper
I fully expect to hear announced soon that Jesse’s son has agreed to replace Rush’s bid for the Rams.
23 posted on 10/15/2009 5:54:43 AM PDT by UncleSam
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To: libstripper

There is a simple resolution to this situation, but it won’t happen. Here it is - boycott the NFL!! When conservatives don’t line up to throw their hard-earned money at these spoiled, multi-millionaire racists, pretty soon, they won’t be multi-millionaires anymore. There won’t be an NFL and these folks will have to find real jobs to support themselves and their families.

It won’t happen because too many conservatives have bought into the media hype about these people being our “hometown heroes”. They play a game and make a VERY good living at it!! You want heroes?? My heroes wear military uniforms, police uniforms, fire uniforms, EMT uniforms. They get paid squat for what they do and no one celebrates them 99% of the time; much less every weekend in the fall and winter.

We often rail here at FR about Obama and the Dems “getting over themselves”, but we all applaud the NFLPA who don’t “get over themselves” until they retire from the NFL and, sometimes, not even then. Then, most of them go on to poverty, sometimes drugs and jail. Big heroes. How many of the NFLPA members will come to your home to save your life from a burglar, home invader or a fire??

For myself, I can live without the NFL. I can’t live without the military, police, fire, or EMTs.


24 posted on 10/15/2009 5:57:07 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: libstripper

I know he is probably loathe to do this, but Rush needs to sue the pants off of all of these people and take them for every dime they’ve got. Otherwise they are going to conclude that the smear tactics work, and they will then ramp them up on steroids for everyone else.


25 posted on 10/15/2009 6:02:02 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ryan71
“Play the audio”, that’s what Rush should challenge them to do. Thousands of hours of Rush audio and there is nothing to be found of him making these comments?

If Rush chooses to litigate, which, from his statement about seeking apologies and retractions under threat of litigation, it appears he's willing to do, his first hurdle will be New York Times vs. Sullivan, where the Supreme Court held a public figure, like Rush, can only state a claim for libel or slander if he can prove the defendant acted with actual malice, defined as knowingly or recklessly telling a defamatory falsehood about the plaintiff. Rush seems to have maintained a total library of all of his shows, speeches, etc., accompanied by electronically searchable transcripts, which is, as he has often stated, fully available at a modest price through "Rush 24/7." Thus, IMHO, it would be reckless for any newsperson, or other person with access to "Rush 24/7" to claim he made either of the fabricated statements without doing due diligence by searching the records Rush has made fully available.

26 posted on 10/15/2009 6:02:23 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Blogger

Soros was part of Checkett’s other sports bids. And Soros owns a chunk of Goldman Sachs. Let’s wait and see. I would rather that Soros was not part of the deal, as I would hope Rush had done his homework on the Checkett partners. Presuming, of course, that once Soros’s involvement was discovered, Rush would have declined to participate.


27 posted on 10/15/2009 6:04:45 AM PDT by chickadee
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To: chickadee

Soros was a part of specific sports bids. Nothing says that Soros was in on this bid or that he is a part of all Checkett’s bids. Apparently Checketts has a lot of different partners. What was Rush supposed to do? “Have you ever associated or are you associating with bad guys with money?” Nothing to ‘wait and see’ here. Unless there is a direct link, Rush should not be convicted of guilt by association with an associate of someone else.


28 posted on 10/15/2009 6:08:55 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: duckman

Imagine that. He gets a free ride because he’s black. How can anyone say that is racist, right?

If you want to see how idiotic that statement is, look at the injuries McNabb has suffered throughout his career that have been late hits and no flag is ever thrown(might only be able to find the one from this year). Then look at the flags thrown at defenders who even look at Brady the wrong way.

‘ole Rusty got what he deserved - people talking about what THEY don’t like. And it turns out, a lot of people don’t like ‘ole Rusty.

And yes, he should sue anyone who attributed false statement to him.


29 posted on 10/15/2009 6:14:33 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: libstripper

My view is that Rush should handle this similarly to the Harry Reid letter which was auctioned off on Ebay for about $1 million, which Rush them donated to charity. That was a brilliant stroke.

The threat of a lawsuit may be enough to keep the fraudsters at bay. What needs to be done is to expose the rats to the light of day. A “Harry Reid letter” scenario will accomplish that and put Rush in a positive light as well.


30 posted on 10/15/2009 6:16:46 AM PDT by randita (Chains you can bereave in.)
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To: Condor51
Sorry. Rush can't do squat.

The NFL is an exclusive club, exempt from Federal Antitrust laws and score of others. If a majority of owners - 17 - vote no, that's it. He can't sue his way in.

I've got to disagree on the libel/slande issue. If Rush chooses to litigate, which, from his statement about seeking apologies and retractions under threat of litigation, it appears he's willing to do, his first hurdle will be New York Times vs. Sullivan, where the Supreme Court held a public figure, like Rush, can only state a claim for libel or slander if he can prove the defendant acted with actual malice, defined as knowingly or recklessly telling a defamatory falsehood about the plaintiff. Rush seems to have maintained a total library of all of his shows, speeches, etc., accompanied by electronically searchable transcripts, which is, as he has often stated, fully available at a modest price through "Rush 24/7." Thus, IMHO, it would be reckless for any newsperson, or other person with access to "Rush 24/7," to claim he made either of the fabricated statements without doing due diligence by searching the records Rush has made fully available, records that show Rush never made any such remarks.

Intentional interference with contract is a tort committed by a third party to prevent two other parties from entering a contract or to cause one of two parties to a conrtract to breach that contract. It's not an attempt to coerce an individual to enter a contract. Here we have a host of libs, some employing the libels and some not, successfully doing their best to intimidate the NFL owners and Rush's apparent partners into dropping their potential deal with him. Charges based on that, suported by the discovery material that's likely to be produced, would have agood chance of getting him past a motion for summary judgment.

31 posted on 10/15/2009 6:17:46 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Blogger

Soros and Checkett were together on CST(College Sports Television), LA Dodgers, St. Louis Blues, JetBlue Airways. It is not unreasonable to suppose that Soros is part of the Rams offer. A cursory search would have uncovered Checkett’s previous connections with Soros.


32 posted on 10/15/2009 6:24:22 AM PDT by chickadee
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To: duckman
When Rush first made the comment about McNabb (sp), I knew sometime somewhere it would be ‘twisted’ into a racist comment.

Me too. I cringed when I heard him say it. And this is the problem: we all have little P-C monitors installed in our brains from swimming in the sewage that the Education & Media elites spew. If that little alarm can go off in the head of a conservative, how easy is it for a race hustler to whip-up the social liberals among us?

33 posted on 10/15/2009 6:24:55 AM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: FunkyZero

“I know Rush will likely shy away from it in the name of “good sportsmanship” and try to be the bigger man.”

He had a caller on the other day who’s opinion it was that Rush should just ignore it all. However, that was before it became the stink-bomb (at the very least) it is now.

Personally, I would like to see Rush show the world how it is he who has truly discovered and loved America while the Sharpson-Jackton’s of the world have lost their so-called minds when they’ve had every opportunity to discover America just as Rush has.


34 posted on 10/15/2009 6:35:16 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: libstripper
Perhaps the silver lining in this cloud is the light it sheds on political discrimination in other institutions. Our education establishment already effectively bans conservatives, our government bureacracies are infested with those who manage to limit employment of those who don't tow the liberal line, and the negative repercussions have become manifest-Rush's plight will further illustrate the lunacy Americans have been accepting without a peep.

This particular event signals the PC creep into the private sector, which makes it substantially more threatening to freedom-lovers, already somewhat more vigilant since the libs began their massive overreach.

I've always believed that America needed only to awake from its slumber. PC is being exposed as the cancer to freedom it's always been, so let's just sit back and watch the repercussions, the media is already being compelled to revisit the ownership Jay-Z, the rapper, managed to acquire in the New Jersey Nets NBA team.

Whether Rush sues or not to me is secondary. Something the libs surely didn't want to talk about is now front and center, a national dialogue has begun, and Rush will know how to throw much more fuel to the fire, and will have the ability to do so. They've picked the wrong American to deny a job to because he is white and conservative. Mark my words, this travesty will have its own punishment, yet another backlash to a liberal attempt to control the (soon to be) uncontrollable.

35 posted on 10/15/2009 6:41:19 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Onelifetogive

I called the NFL and left a message.

If a conservative isn’t fit to own a team, then this conservative isn’t fit to be a fan.

Bye bye.


36 posted on 10/15/2009 6:54:52 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: duckman

And the truth is, that same msm was instrumental in getting a black man elected president.

And that same screeching charge of racism is now in play every time we don’t agree with the black man’s policies.

RUSH WAS RIGHT


37 posted on 10/15/2009 6:56:36 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: libstripper

They aren’t the purveyors of political correctness, they are the purveyors of lies, deliberate lies, to shut down any opposition to their agenda.


38 posted on 10/15/2009 6:58:28 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: libstripper

Malice can likely be shown if the lib media types continue to repeat the slander. Especially when other news organization research arms have not been able to verify that the statements on slavery were ever made. Chris Matthews statement of wanting to shot Rush with a co2 bullet adds fuel to the fire if he too joined the slander chorus.


39 posted on 10/15/2009 7:00:56 AM PDT by grumpygresh
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To: DustyMoment
Sorry, I don't fall in there. As far as I am concerned, the only sport worth watching is USAC Silver Crown.

Anything else is nothing but a bore. The members are often arrested for everything ranging from murder to drug possession. Professional sports have been hijacked by a bunch of thugs. And again, it's flippin boring. bah

40 posted on 10/15/2009 7:12:48 AM PDT by FunkyZero ("It's not about duck hunting !")
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To: libstripper

Watch NFL? I’ll spend my time cracking walnuts instead.


41 posted on 10/15/2009 7:13:07 AM PDT by Bullfrogg
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To: Bullfrogg

I seriously hope the NFL goes to hell in a handbasket.


42 posted on 10/15/2009 7:15:07 AM PDT by Bullfrogg
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To: libstripper

I love Rush dearly and have listened to him for almost two decades...but what happened to Savage matters, to...perhaps even more so. Rush is being victimized and slandered by a private entity (the NFL). Savage was defamed by the British Government, possibly in colllusion with the U.S. Government. Only a handful of Savage’s fellow talk show hosts have spoken out on his behalf. Savage was the bellwether that everybody ignored, and in that light, what’s happening to Rush should really come as a shock, surprise or outrage to anybody that has dismissed Savage and his battle with the Brits.


43 posted on 10/15/2009 7:18:38 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: grumpygresh

Outfit me with hidden cameras (Hi-res color,please), microphones, GPS, i-phone, etc for the next mission to infiltrate and fully expose the “shenanigans”!


44 posted on 10/15/2009 7:21:25 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: DustyMoment

Well said! Well said! Best comments ever! Intend to send this post to Jesse, Al, Maxine,Checketts, Chrissy Matthews, etc. with your permission of course.


45 posted on 10/15/2009 7:21:27 AM PDT by LilRhody
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To: Joe 6-pack
D@MN typos....

I love Rush dearly and have listened to him for almost two decades...but what happened to Savage matters, too...perhaps even more so. Rush is being victimized and slandered by a private entity (the NFL). Savage was defamed by the British Government, possibly in colllusion with the U.S. Government. Only a handful of Savage’s fellow talk show hosts have spoken out on his behalf. Savage was the bellwether that everybody ignored, and in that light, what’s happening to Rush should really not come as a shock, surprise or outrage to anybody that has dismissed Savage and his battle with the Brits.

46 posted on 10/15/2009 7:21:46 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Maybe Savage should have shut his grating trap about “Hush Bimbo” and other talk show hosts, and THEN maybe they would have come to his defense.


47 posted on 10/15/2009 7:22:59 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: equaviator

Outfit me with hidden cameras (Hi-res color,please), microphones, GPS, i-phone, etc. for the next mission to infiltrate and fully expose the “shenanigans”!...and even though I’m unemployed at the moment and need the extra cash, I’ll do it for free.


48 posted on 10/15/2009 7:30:11 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: Clemenza
No doubt Savage takes his shots at his peers/competitors...no dispute. But he has also jumped to their defense vociferously...when the media was trying to smear Rush when he (Rush) went into rehab, I don't think he had a bigger defender than Savage.

My point is, this is bigger than the personalities; it's about attempts to quell political speech. True lovers of freedom have been fond of saying, "I don't like what you have to say, but I'll fight and die for your right to say it." I'm thinking that has largely been lip service. Whether or not you (or other hosts) like what Savage has to say, I would have hoped they would have defended him on the principle of the UK blacklisting him with jihadists and Russian mobsters because of his "dangerous" speech. The reason Savage was singled out is because he is abrasive and easy to hate, but now the precedent has been set, and those that failed to "hang" with him will now hang separately, albeit with the very same rope.

49 posted on 10/15/2009 7:31:40 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

“The reason Savage was singled out is because he is abrasive and easy to hate, but now the precedent has been set, and those that failed to “hang” with him will now hang separately, albeit with the very same rope.”

I tend to see it as a pseudo precedent. One that exists in the minds of so many hyperactive imaginations because of the zealousness of the propoganda.


50 posted on 10/15/2009 7:42:17 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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