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Oregon Apartment Complex Bans Flying the American Flag
Foxnews ^ | Oct 14, 2009 | Foxnews

Posted on 10/15/2009 6:16:05 AM PDT by Psalm_2

An Oregon apartment complex is banning its residents from flying American flags, not only from their dwellings but also their vehicles, KATU in Portland reported.....

Sharron White, a long-time resident, was told by management to take down the flag she's flown on her car for eight years because "someone might get offended."

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americanflag; banned; hoa; oldglory; oregon
Free speech violation.
1 posted on 10/15/2009 6:16:05 AM PDT by Psalm_2
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To: Psalm_2

Old news posted many times and has been resolved.


2 posted on 10/15/2009 6:17:19 AM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: Psalm_2

The news last night said this rule has been reversed.


3 posted on 10/15/2009 6:18:51 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Psalm_2

How could the American flag offend any American citizen? Perhaps we are worried about offending terrorists? Illegals?


4 posted on 10/15/2009 6:19:52 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: PeteB570

http://www.katu.com/news/local/64262707.html


5 posted on 10/15/2009 6:20:44 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: PeteB570; All

i suppose i should have looked further into into it before i posted. however the trampling of free speech is rather annoying.


6 posted on 10/15/2009 6:26:08 AM PDT by Psalm_2 (Break up your fallow ground, For it is time to seek the LORD Until He comes..Hos10:12)
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To: PeteB570
It sounded like old news but you can never tell when something like this will come up again somewhere else in a Blue State parking zone.
7 posted on 10/15/2009 6:27:54 AM PDT by wmileo (I miss Ronald Wilson Reagan. POTUS #40)
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To: PeteB570
It sounded like old news but you can never tell when something like this will come up again somewhere else in a Blue State parking zone.
8 posted on 10/15/2009 6:27:55 AM PDT by wmileo (I miss Ronald Wilson Reagan. POTUS #40)
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To: Psalm_2

thank goodness the ban has been lifted and the flag can fly now at The Oaks apartment complex. I liked the comment by one of the folks who offered to help those who were offended by the American flag to pack their bags and get ‘em out of the country. If they’re so offended by what the American flag represents, then they don’t need to visit here, work here, live here, prosper here. Let ‘em go back to the hellholes they claim as their country of origin.


9 posted on 10/15/2009 6:30:55 AM PDT by sassy steel magnolia (USAF life and Navy wife...God Bless the USA!)
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To: Psalm_2
I love this part:

KVAL News also contacted the American Civil Liberties Union to ask whether the policy banning flags from the apartment complex violated any laws. The answer from the ACLU: No.

Thus speaks Ruth Buzzi Ginzburg and friends.

10 posted on 10/15/2009 6:31:25 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Psalm_2

Did they ban the rainbow flag also?


11 posted on 10/15/2009 6:31:44 AM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: savedbygrace
"KVAL News also contacted the American Civil Liberties Union to ask whether the policy banning flags from the apartment complex violated any laws. The answer from the ACLU: No.

But Holcomb said she received different legal counsel that led her to believe she is wrong to ban the flags."

Liberal Translation: The ACLU does not think it is a violation of the civil rights of a patriotic American citizen who is prevented from flying Old Glory. However, it is a Hate Crime to ban the Flags of other nations, especially those who hate the USA and harbor terrorists.

Thank you ACLU. I got it now!

12 posted on 10/15/2009 6:36:44 AM PDT by wmileo (I miss Ronald Wilson Reagan. POTUS #40)
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To: Psalm_2
because "someone might get offended."

That isn't now or ever was a valid reason for such a request. Keep flying the flag and then file a complaint when one of the condo Nazis attempts to remove it.

13 posted on 10/15/2009 6:38:15 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: Psalm_2
Holcomb said the flag ban was based on interpretation of two sections of the rental agreement all tenants sign.
"What we were trying to do was to keep the peace," she said


14 posted on 10/15/2009 6:41:47 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: PeteB570

Well, the Nuremberg Race Laws have been resolved too. No need to bring ‘em up ever again. Nope.

It should never have happened in the first place, and is probably still happening elsewhere.

“The price of Liberty is Eternal Vigilance.” —TJ


15 posted on 10/15/2009 6:42:50 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (Keep your powder dry, and your iron hidden.)
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To: wmileo

While this story is about a rental complex there are plenty of Home Owner Associations run by the local nut case - both in red and blue states.

Too many people take no interest in who is running their HOA until bizzaro stuff starts happening.


16 posted on 10/15/2009 6:42:56 AM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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What if I feel offended by this request?


17 posted on 10/15/2009 6:55:16 AM PDT by Behemoth the Cat
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To: marstegreg
Perhaps we are worried about offending terrorists? Illegals?

Nah, probably the tourists.

18 posted on 10/15/2009 7:01:37 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: ExGeeEye

My point is that if it’s a day old story chances are it would have been posted a number of times on FR.

The front page of the News/Activism page holds about 50 stories. Right before I made this post there was two stories about how 3 of the 5 on the NPP committie were against giving it to Obama.

Look for that story to be posted about once every half hour for the next 8 hours or so.

If people would read first and then post there would be fewer posts to wade through.

All of the above is just my opinion.


19 posted on 10/15/2009 7:03:28 AM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: unixfox

Yeah, we wouldn’t want people who come to America to actually feel like they are in America.


20 posted on 10/15/2009 7:04:25 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: PeteB570
Right before I made this post there was two stories about how 3 of the 5 on the NPP committie were against giving it to Obama. Look for that story to be posted about once every half hour for the next 8 hours or so.

Really! I was unaware of that story. Thank you for mentioning it. I'm glad to hear it's widely available so I don't have to trust my ability to stumble over it in the list of other stories. My thanks to whoever is keeping it visible!

YMMV.

21 posted on 10/15/2009 7:08:52 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (Keep your powder dry, and your iron hidden.)
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To: ExGeeEye

Maybe you should try reading FR before posting on it.

You might learn something.


22 posted on 10/15/2009 7:18:30 AM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: sassy steel magnolia

There likely was no one offended by the flag, except those who wanted to exercise authority over their neighbors from their vaunted position as keepers of the park’s dignity. They picked the wrong item for their perverse decency.


23 posted on 10/15/2009 7:24:38 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (He is the son of soulless slavers, not the son of soulful slaves.)
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To: ExGeeEye

And since you like to post without checking the forum you might want to start a thread about this story.

http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/troop_funds_diverted/2009/10/15/272556.html

“U.S. Troop Funds Diverted to Pet Projects”

“....Senators diverted $2.6 billion in funds in a defense spending bill to pet projects largely at the expense of accounts that pay for fuel, ammunition and training for U.S. troops, including those fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, according to an analysis.....”

This story seems to have been sliding along below the RADAR for a while.


24 posted on 10/15/2009 7:26:46 AM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: PeteB570
And since you like to post without checking the forum...

Please post a link to where I did that.

25 posted on 10/15/2009 7:28:47 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (Keep your powder dry, and your iron hidden.)
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To: ExGeeEye

“....Really! I was unaware of that story. Thank you for mentioning it.....”

Your post #21.


26 posted on 10/15/2009 7:38:11 AM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: PeteB570

I sincerely ask your pardon. I thought you meant “post [an article] without reading”, not “post [a comment] without reading.” I reacted as I did because I have not posted an article in a long time, and when I do, I search for similar articles first. While I really do appreciate repeat postings of articles (I usually don’t have the time to read the whole page), I don’t want to cause them.


27 posted on 10/15/2009 1:07:45 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Keep your powder dry, and your iron hidden.)
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To: ExGeeEye

I am like you and start very, very few threads. Why? Because 99.9% of the time somebody else has posted it.

When I log into FR I click on News / Activism and pull down scanning the front page (around 50 threads/stories).

It takes about 2 hours to cycle a story off the front page - less if a lot is going on.

People on FR are pretty sharp and not much slips by them. But what is News? That story I linked to you above is not “News” yet but you would think a story about taking money from Operations & Maintenence and using it for Pork would have twitched a few more whiskers of the FR Cats.

So far I could only find where it was posted once with limited views. Oh, well.

Anyway, starting a thread on a day old story that had been resolved by the time you post it is not news - unless you also post that it has been resolved

and

I just wish more people would pull through the front page before starting a thread. It looks a little funny when there is 5 threads on the same story posted about 5 minutes apart.

OK, I’m just venting a bit today.


28 posted on 10/15/2009 1:42:13 PM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: Psalm_2
i suppose i should have looked further into into it before i posted. however the trampling of free speech is rather annoying.

First of all...I want to say this is NOT a free speech issue. The 1st Amendment protects us from CONGRESS making laws that infring on our freedoms of speech and religion. The Supreme Court has since stated that the 1st Amendment also applies to the States and local governments.

So...neither the Federal, State or Local government can make any infringment upon your right to exercise your freedoms of religion or speech.

An apartment complex is not the government. They have every right to be idiots...and be wrong. They have every right to suffer all the consequences of boycots...getting sued if they evict you or sueing them for any other reason you can think of (civil suit)...etc for making such an un-patriotic policy. They have every right to become the object of scorn and ridicule...

BUT the 1st Amendment GUARANTEES their right to do this...and the 1st does not prohibit them (a private business) from taking this action...and it is NOT a violation of ANYONE'S 1st Amendment right to free speech.

Its just slimey...and stupid.

29 posted on 10/15/2009 1:55:07 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: Psalm_2

Some corporate mouth piece needs some street justice to find out why it is ass.... don’t abuse their power like this in the US. Because they do not face street justice, fascism in on the move.


30 posted on 10/15/2009 4:01:44 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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