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California appears poised to be first to ban power-guzzling big-screen TVs
LA Times ^ | October 14, 2009 | Marc Lifsher

Posted on 10/15/2009 1:38:35 PM PDT by stockpirate

Reporting from Sacramento - The influential lobby group Consumer Electronics Assn. is fighting what appears to be a losing battle to dissuade California regulators from passing the nation's first ban on energy-hungry big-screen televisions.

On Tuesday, executives and consultants for the Arlington, Va., trade group asked members of the California Energy Commission to instead let consumers use their wallets to decide whether they want to buy the most energy-saving new models of liquid-crystal display and plasma high-definition TVs.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: electricity; electronics; energy; insanity
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This is really getting to be insane.
1 posted on 10/15/2009 1:38:36 PM PDT by stockpirate
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To: stockpirate

No one allowed to have any fun in California, soon to be the law.


2 posted on 10/15/2009 1:40:35 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: stockpirate
How's that ole socialism working out fer ya Cali?

If you want change vote em out, otherwise...live with it.

3 posted on 10/15/2009 1:41:46 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Ping.


4 posted on 10/15/2009 1:42:03 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: stockpirate

Last month there was an Arizona Conservative spoof satirizing this idea.

Within the month, it is floated as policy.

Pretty soon, The Onion will be taking dictation from Sacramento.


5 posted on 10/15/2009 1:42:41 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (President Obama got the Nobel Prize and my ass is still sitting in Afghanistan. Its not fair. - G.I.)
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To: stockpirate

How about the daily power guzzling that is requitred to heat, cool and power the abysmally wasteful, bureaucratic behemoth in Sacramento?


6 posted on 10/15/2009 1:43:11 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: stockpirate
OMG this is too funny. Just how many corporations and businesses donated to democrats? They are getting their return on their investments now LOL.

I shouldn't laugh, but it is so much fun watching them get all huffy when they all jumped on the Green bandwagon and it carried them off the cliff.

7 posted on 10/15/2009 1:44:14 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: stockpirate

Movie theaters use a lot of electricity. We need to ban them. MRI machines use a lot of energy, too. Ban ‘em. Restaurants do, too. Ban ‘em. Etc.


8 posted on 10/15/2009 1:44:35 PM PDT by petitfour (Are you a Dead Fish American?)
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To: unixfox
Hey, go for it. I say just shut off the grids in Kalifornia and get er done.

At least it will cut down on the number of loons able to post on lefty blogs.

9 posted on 10/15/2009 1:44:48 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 163)
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To: stockpirate
The Free Republic should move from California, as it is run by anti-Americna left wing pig faced scum who want to make it a Communist or Nazi dictatorship.
10 posted on 10/15/2009 1:44:48 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT (I will always be a Soldier)
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To: stockpirate

Ang yet the mansions in Beverly Hills, Belair, Malibu, etc. can still keep all 20 rooms lit, use electric gates, elevators, electric fountains, etc.


11 posted on 10/15/2009 1:45:20 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: petitfour
Movie theaters use a lot of electricity. We need to ban them. MRI machines use a lot of energy, too. Ban ‘em. Restaurants do, too. Ban ‘em. Etc.

So the Taliban are really just a group of concerned environmentalists after all.

12 posted on 10/15/2009 1:46:38 PM PDT by marlon
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To: marlon

Yup. Why else is Bambi cozying up to them and hanging our troops out to dry?


13 posted on 10/15/2009 1:50:23 PM PDT by petitfour (Are you a Dead Fish American?)
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To: unixfox

Hollyweird should be banned from making any movies or TV shows because the energy is all wasted and Polar bears are dieing :-(


14 posted on 10/15/2009 1:52:06 PM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: stockpirate

Get used to it, people. You’ll live the way the leftist cranks tell you to live — or else.


15 posted on 10/15/2009 1:53:01 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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To: Paine in the Neck

Buy more ammo.

Check


16 posted on 10/15/2009 1:54:40 PM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: stockpirate
Something tells me not a single liberal Hollywood star will be sans big screen TV in their home.

Or Democract donor, government official, union rep, etc, etc, etc.

17 posted on 10/15/2009 1:54:59 PM PDT by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: Cementjungle
Ang yet the mansions in Beverly Hills, Belair, Malibu, etc. can still keep all 20 rooms lit, use electric gates, elevators, electric fountains, etc.

You need to remember that in a feudal society, there is a difference between lords and peasants.

18 posted on 10/15/2009 1:55:50 PM PDT by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot children are in charge!)
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To: Huskrrrr

No SERF is allowed to have any fun in California (and soon in the whole USA).

You know for a fact that the ruling class will still have their big screens.


19 posted on 10/15/2009 1:56:43 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: stockpirate

What will all the movie stars and hiphop cribs do withoout their 1000 inch flat screens? Poor people - I feel your pain - yeah, right.


20 posted on 10/15/2009 1:56:55 PM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Chipper

A glimpse of the future.

Serfs will not be allowed to have ANYTHING that the “elite” have.


21 posted on 10/15/2009 1:57:52 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: YOUGOTIT
run by anti-Americna left wing pig faced scum who want to make it a Communist or Nazi dictatorship

Yeah and some Republicans as well......

22 posted on 10/15/2009 1:58:03 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (Unions are the storm troopers of socialism.)
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To: stockpirate

I don’t have a big-screen TV. Can I keep my incandescent lights instead?


23 posted on 10/15/2009 1:58:35 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: Uncle Miltie
Last month there was an Arizona Conservative spoof satirizing this idea.

Within the month, it is floated as policy.

Other order. California first proposed this a month or two ago and Semmens just took it a few steps further.

If only there was some way that Californians could be forced to pay more for using more electricity and then they could decide it was worth it... no, wait, that's what the electric bill is.

24 posted on 10/15/2009 2:03:45 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Soon everyone will win a Nobel Peace Prize for not being George Bush...well, except for George Bush.)
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To: stockpirate

I can see large TV stores opening up on the Nevada Border.


25 posted on 10/15/2009 2:08:21 PM PDT by microgood
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To: microgood

They will not be allowed to have them in their homes. And they will no doubt install the smart meter.


26 posted on 10/15/2009 2:10:40 PM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: stockpirate

The finest HDTV panel maker on the market, Pioneer is being pushed out by Samsung.

I’m glad I got mine before Pioneer gets killed off.


27 posted on 10/15/2009 2:11:00 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: MrB

Torch and pitchfork time!


28 posted on 10/15/2009 2:11:41 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: stockpirate

This is what happens when you give reality-challenged academic leftists control of a society.


29 posted on 10/15/2009 2:18:03 PM PDT by SoDak (bitter clinger)
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To: Zathras

Plasma’s getting to be obsolete. They’re still ok, but local dimming LCD’s are the top of the line for the next 10+ years. The Samsung 8500 series out now is great for 2d, but I’d imagine after this one they’ll all be 3d compatible.

What’s this about a state banning some tv’s? What?


30 posted on 10/15/2009 2:20:59 PM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: stockpirate

Its like we have central planning communists in power today, who while not able to call themselves central planning communists, still act that way to a T. Applies to -7obamacare just as well as these centrally planned TV decrees.


31 posted on 10/15/2009 2:28:51 PM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: heartwood

What about my pool pumps?
These suck up a lot more power than my wide screen and run a lot longer.

Opps....maybe I’ve said too much.

Uh....never mind.


32 posted on 10/15/2009 2:31:20 PM PDT by super7man
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To: stockpirate

The liquid crystal versions contain a bright inner lamp or lamps to illuminate the screen. Now suppose these could be solar illuminated by day, through a skylight and appropriate light transmissive ducting, with the lamps used only at night?


33 posted on 10/15/2009 2:31:39 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

LEAKED NETWORK MEMO REVEALS: Obama Controls Your Television Set
Big Hollywood/Breitbart | October 15, 2009 | John Nolte
Posted on 10/15/2009 5:14:23 AM PDT by combat_boots
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2362949/posts


34 posted on 10/15/2009 2:35:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: stockpirate
Damm Just Damm What about those energy sucking Electric Cars?
35 posted on 10/15/2009 2:36:59 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Tolsti2
Plasma’s getting to be obsolete. They’re still ok, but local dimming LCD’s are the top of the line for the next 10+ years. The Samsung 8500 series out now is great for 2d, but I’d imagine after this one they’ll all be 3d compatible.

I bet the real issue is energy gulping plasma displays vs energy sipping lcd displays.

They will probably ban plasma in favor of LCD.

I've watched my plasma for the last six years and still have those "oh my gosh what a beautiful display" moments.

My kids all have bought LCD's and they just don't compare in quality of display.

And for those that are going to say plasmas burn in, I say based on my display which still has no signs of any kind of burn in, that burn in is a myth foisted on the consumer by savvy LCD manufacturers.

36 posted on 10/15/2009 2:37:56 PM PDT by sonofagun
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To: stockpirate

You can have my 50” plasma when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.


37 posted on 10/15/2009 2:40:23 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Hope....Change...Bullsh*t)
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To: Cheetahcat

They really don’t want anyone to drive any type of car. The goal is to have one person working, tax all of his salary and redistribute it to the rest of us.


38 posted on 10/15/2009 2:40:46 PM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: stockpirate

I think I’ll move to Reno Nevada and open an ammo store / tv store. They are going to clean up. These stoners in our Calif government have a critical case of HEAD UP ASS.


39 posted on 10/15/2009 2:45:09 PM PDT by jetson
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To: reagan_fanatic

People in CA better wake up and soon, the socialists are taking over.


40 posted on 10/15/2009 2:45:59 PM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: stockpirate

California should just ban electricity generation. The environment must be saved!


41 posted on 10/15/2009 2:46:36 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: Tolsti2

If you can see one with a good source, a Pioneer Kuro is known to have the best picture on the planet. Most showrooms have crummy sources.

LCD and most Plasmas have the same problem reproducing Black. Pioneer has lead the industry for years in displaying Black (Kuro means Black in Japanese). Plasmas DO burn a bit more power (mine’s about 270W) which is why CA is using this as an excuse to outlaw them.

Samsung is doing good things on keeping the cost down but they are close to capturing the entire computer monitor/TV market right now.

Just like all conservatives, I’d rather let us buy what we want rather than being told by Nancy Pelosi.


42 posted on 10/15/2009 2:50:14 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

I’m still all out for the reintroduction of grizzly bears and wolves to CA.

It’s the green thing to do.

Imagine the carbon footprint that can be reduced just from all those granola-crunching libs who try to feed and pet the “pretty animals.”


43 posted on 10/15/2009 2:55:02 PM PDT by EricT. ("Mankind, when left to themselves, are unfit for their own government." -George Washington)
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To: stockpirate

“Average first-year savings from reduced electricity use would be an estimated $30 per set”

That is 1.5% of my average monthly electric bill.

Good job California!


44 posted on 10/15/2009 2:59:51 PM PDT by gc4nra (This tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment!)
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To: stockpirate

This is a bit beyond socialism. Its become a theocracy. The religion = Environmentalism.


45 posted on 10/15/2009 3:05:46 PM PDT by o2bfree (This president is giving me a headache!)
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To: MrB
Sumptuary laws (from Latin sumptuariae leges) are laws that attempt to regulate habits of consumption. Black's Law Dictionary defines them as “Laws made for the purpose of restraining luxury or extravagance, particularly against inordinate expenditures in the matter of apparel, food, furniture, etc.”[1]. Traditionally, they were laws that regulated and reinforced social hierarchies and morals through restrictions on clothing, food, and luxury expenditures. In most times and places they were ineffectual.[2]

Throughout history, societies have used sumptuary laws for a variety of purposes. They attempted to regulate the balance of trade by limiting the market for expensive imported goods. They were also an easy way to identify social rank and privilege, and often were used for social discrimination. This frequently meant preventing commoners from imitating the appearance of aristocrats, and sometimes also to stigmatize disfavored groups. In the Late Middle Ages sumptuary laws were instituted as a way for the nobility to cap the conspicuous consumption of the prosperous bourgeoisie of medieval cities, and they continued to be used for these purposes well into the seventeenth century.[2]

46 posted on 10/15/2009 3:10:43 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: gc4nra

They are really saving a bunch of money. NOT


47 posted on 10/15/2009 3:14:47 PM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: o2bfree

Fascism.......


48 posted on 10/15/2009 3:15:18 PM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Pretty soon, The Onion will be taking dictation from Sacramento.

I think it's actually the other way around ... the stuff that comes out of Sacramento is less believable than what you read in the Onion, but unfortunately is more true.

49 posted on 10/15/2009 3:32:39 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (GOP: Stop listening, start doing -- we need new leaders!)
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To: stockpirate

“They’ll can take my 50-inch plasma HDTV when they pry it from my cold, dead eyeballs.”


50 posted on 10/15/2009 3:42:48 PM PDT by OrangeHoof ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Bend over suckahs".)
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