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Obama concedes he's not a NBC, in Obama vs. Keyes 2004 Debate
Wordpress ^ | October 15, 2009

Posted on 10/15/2009 10:23:32 PM PDT by Red Steel

Witness comes forward, history of Internet "Rumour" documented.

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KEYWORDS: 2008election; alankeyes; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; constitution; obama; obamakeyesdebate
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To: Red Steel

I have searching for this video of the debate for over a year and can’t find it. I know it’s been scrubbed from way back, but hope upon hope that I could find it somewhere.


51 posted on 10/16/2009 10:14:24 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: nickcarraway

He has, many times!!! He’s petititoned CSPAN to release the tapes of the debate and hasn’t gotten anywhere with it.


52 posted on 10/16/2009 10:19:07 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: autumnraine

Please see post #32 and #35.


53 posted on 10/16/2009 10:22:17 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: autumnraine

It along with the other debate, including the Radio debate are at Cspan Video Archives. I was able to find them in under 5 min. I also watched the. The claim is false. The conversation as reported in Post & Email as having happened in the debate is NOT in any of the videos of the debates.

It did not happen.


54 posted on 10/16/2009 10:25:58 AM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: autumnraine

You can watch all of the debates on CSPAN. I did so last night. took almost 4.5 hours to do too.


55 posted on 10/16/2009 10:26:38 AM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Red Steel; pissant; BP2; Fred Nerks; null and void; David; LucyT; ckilmer; rxsid; cripplecreek; ...
This is not the first time I've heard of the implied admission by Obama, in the 2004 Illinois Senate debate vs. Alan Keyes, that he is not a NBC.

BTW, the Constitution required Obama to have been a US citizen for at least nine years to be eligible for the US Senate. Obama has yet to provide any bona fide documentation proving he has been a US citizen at any point in his life whatsoever! So the possibility remains that he was constitutionally unqualified for the US Senate during his entire time spent there. That, despite Obama's alleged retort to Keyes to the effect that he was "running for the US Senate." Now, if Obama flouted the constitutional provisions for the Senate qualification in 2004 and went unchallenged, his bravado would lead him to believe that the Constitution would be no impediment to his bid for the presidency in 2008 as well.

56 posted on 10/16/2009 11:30:12 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Danae
It did not happen.

You're right. It didn't. It's an internet myth.

57 posted on 10/16/2009 11:38:28 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Darkness has no response to light, except to flee.)
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To: Artemis Webb

I’m sorry if a steady defense of a good friend and a serious patriot annoys you. But, thanks for setting the record straight.


58 posted on 10/16/2009 11:39:44 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Darkness has no response to light, except to flee.)
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To: EternalVigilance

One backhanded compliment deserves another.

touché


59 posted on 10/16/2009 11:55:46 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: Artemis Webb

:-)


60 posted on 10/16/2009 11:56:18 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Darkness has no response to light, except to flee.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Does that statement apply to the supposed backstage interchange mentioned in Reply 50 as well?


61 posted on 10/16/2009 3:39:32 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand

Yes.

Dr. Keyes has been asked about this as well on one of our America’s Summit conference calls and said it never happened. The story came from someone’s fertile imagination.


62 posted on 10/16/2009 3:54:15 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Quit looking for a leader and be a leader.)
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To: Danae
What we need to find is the un edited raw video that C span had of this.
Most likely what we are seeing on youtube is the edited version, or un complete version.
63 posted on 10/16/2009 4:51:36 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: American Constitutionalist

I did find it. Its at the CSPAN Site inthe Video Archives. All the debates. I watched all of them. The exchange described did not happen.

Go look for yourself, I found them in about 5 min of going through CSPAN’s website.


64 posted on 10/16/2009 4:54:50 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Danae

Last fall/winter this topic came up and I found a web site that hosted all the transcripts of the debates. I scoured them but couldn’t find the NBC exchange. Perhaps this particular debate wasn’t among the ones I searched.


65 posted on 10/16/2009 5:48:58 PM PDT by Faith
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To: nickcarraway

Because Alan Keyes never took the race seriously and spent more than one of his radio interviews during the campaign singing “Over the Rainbow” on the air.

I was in IL at the time and it was “surreal”.


66 posted on 10/16/2009 7:08:39 PM PDT by lucias_clay (All We Weed Up !)
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To: justiceseeker93

Thanks for the ping!


68 posted on 10/16/2009 9:31:22 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: surfer

lol, Chief Editor, Sammy Korir


69 posted on 10/16/2009 10:22:48 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: Red Steel
CSPAN video This is from 2004 so maybe it is the one.
70 posted on 10/17/2009 7:39:11 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: tutstar

go here! go around the 51 time mark, they EDITED THIS!!! http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLibrary/video.php?dispid=183931-1

What do you guys think?


71 posted on 10/18/2009 11:41:44 AM PDT by TNMichelleb
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To: Danae

De-bunked by who? It was on You Tube. I saw it. I never knew it would be a big deal. It was NOT during the debate, it was after they walked off the stage, there were reporters there, asking questions and Keys and oboma had a few exchanges. There was a lot of commotion, maybe Keyes didn’t think it was a big deal at the time.
All I know is I saw it. People commented on it on You Tube, so did I. I added it to my favorites and then it was gone. I searched all over trying to find it somewhere, never could. Someone has that tape, or it has been destroyed forever. Keys doesn’t have a very good memory, that’s for sure.


72 posted on 10/18/2009 11:47:25 AM PDT by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe

Oh REALLY!?

Isn’t that interesting....

I did not understand that it was comments made after the debate.... Hum...

I am betting someone has it somewhere.

Titled something obscure I am sure. Have you searched the person who posted it? They might still have something, and you could contact them.... Just an idea.


73 posted on 10/18/2009 12:02:42 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Danae

It was a long time ago, I have no clue who put the videos up. One of the them that did, I was a subscriber to his videos and I can’t even remember his name right now. He always found really good clips. His account was terminated by Ebay right after the election. I asked some others that I new were friends with him if he re-joined with another name, but they didn’t know. I kept reaching dead ends.
NOW I download all videos but at the time, the you Tube scrubbing was just beginning so I had no reason to think it would disappear. I wish I could recall the reporters who were there, but I have to be honest and say I can’t. There were several, maybe 10-15, asking questions after the debate, in the backstage area.
Someone has that video. It had to be filmed for it end up on You Tube. I have looked so many times it’s ridiculous and came up empty handed. I still think it’s out there somewhere. I did the same thing you did, download all of the Key’s debates hoping that maybe one of them had the backstage part at the end of it. No luck.


74 posted on 10/18/2009 12:18:57 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe

If you were a subscriber it will be recorded in your account information unless you unsubscribed.

As for the Keys videos, it took me 4.5 hours to watch it all. If I had know that it was a the end, I would have just looked there. I don’t consider it time wasted tho, I know now that it wasn’t DURING the debates.


75 posted on 10/18/2009 12:24:14 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: TNMichelleb

Looks like they cut it. These are on You Tube, compare them to see what they cut out, if anything. But the one I saw where he said it was backstage, not during the debate.


76 posted on 10/18/2009 12:25:43 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: surfer

Speaking of Sammy the nutjob and API. I will never be 100% convinced that MO didn’t call him. That is exactly the sort of thing she would do. However, I think he wished he would have recorded it and probably got $$ by saying he did have it.


77 posted on 10/18/2009 12:27:57 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Red Steel; All

Here’s Keyes’ site... with the audio, video, and transcript of his debate with Obama in 2004. The funny thing is he disabled everything. And when you try to use wayback, a message comes up saying Keyes has blocked the archives to his site. hmmmmm

http://2004.keyesarchives.com/multimedia.php

We’re sorry, access to http://2004.keyesarchives.com/ has been blocked by the site owner via robots.txt.


78 posted on 10/18/2009 3:33:34 PM PDT by NotSoModerate (Obama's spin isn't ordinary, it's roller coaster ride after a few beers spin.)
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To: nickcarraway

He would have forgotten it because a naturalized person can be a senator. And Keyes was not thinking of a President Obama in 2004. Apparently, only the American people wanted someone like that, far removed from Keyes.


79 posted on 10/18/2009 5:48:50 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: TNMichelleb

It sounds like it was edited right there, like they cut out 1-2 seconds of audio and video.


80 posted on 10/18/2009 6:52:48 PM PDT by your local physicist (Gridlock is good...in Washington.)
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To: mojitojoe

it is gone now...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Op8fMbtAlw


81 posted on 10/18/2009 7:19:26 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Danae

Donofreo is all wet!!!


82 posted on 10/18/2009 7:28:32 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: mojitojoe

An administration that does this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLR5jHlytRg&feature=player_embedded

will cover and lie all the way.


83 posted on 10/18/2009 7:34:17 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: dalereed

Er?

Charlton has done good work in the past, and I don’t know all thats going on... maybe Donofrio is just miffed. Who knows, I hear now that the footage in question happened AFTER the debate as people were milling around.... THAT is not in any of the CSPAN footage, and I have had someone tell me they once say it on Youtube, but that it got pulled later.... Who knows. More will be revealed.


84 posted on 10/18/2009 7:35:57 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Drew68

I wouldn’t say it was BS because a tape hasn’t surfaced. I would say it was unverifiable. It wouldn’t be the first time evidence disappeared.


85 posted on 10/18/2009 8:32:12 PM PDT by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Despicable, all of them. I hate these people. They make me sick!


86 posted on 10/18/2009 9:08:18 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Danae

If you were a subscriber it will be recorded in your account information unless you unsubscribed.
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I did. He was no longer on You Tube. Many of them weren’t so I deleted them. It wouldn’t matter anyway. Once You Tube deletes their account, there is no way to get in touch with them. It seems to me, he was friends with Naked Emperor, but that one may have also been kicked off. Right before the election, You Tube was kicking people out constantly if they were anti-Obama and had really popular videos exposing him for what he really is.


87 posted on 10/18/2009 9:28:49 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: rocco55

test send


88 posted on 10/19/2009 10:07:17 AM PDT by rocco55
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To: American Constitutionalist

AC,

I have tried to send you FOUR private messages. ALL had error messages ? I asume you didn’t rec’v them ? Looks like we need to contact a moderator ? Does FR have tech support ?

Let me know...I am at work today, but want to reach you. Thx, r55


89 posted on 10/19/2009 10:11:52 AM PDT by rocco55
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To: Red Steel

RS,

Is ‘private messaging’ feature down today ? I cannot send any private messages today, can you ? Can someone inquire with the moderator ?

Let me know...I am trying to contact you. Thx


90 posted on 10/19/2009 1:24:23 PM PDT by rocco55
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To: rocco55

Yes, it appears so ...in case you didn’t get my latest FReep mail.


91 posted on 10/19/2009 6:12:44 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

I remember watching that debate during the 2004 campaign.

Keyes, although he ran a poor campaign, cleaned Obama’s clock during the debate. At one point, Obama conceded, “As you can see, Mr. Keyes is a much better debater than I am.” But I don’t remember any discussion of Obama’s citizenship.


92 posted on 10/19/2009 6:41:14 PM PDT by guinnessman
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