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Wealthy homosexual activist advises ‘active measures’ against religious opponents
cna ^ | October 16, 2009

Posted on 10/16/2009 4:42:27 AM PDT by NYer

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Wealthy homosexual activist advises ‘active measures’ against religious opponents

Yeah, make sure you don't practice the tolerance you espouse and expect to receive from others.

21 posted on 10/16/2009 5:26:39 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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This bunch is no better than militant Islam. Just like the Mohammadens, they sneak into the system in small numbers, then they shriek that they are being oppressed by the majority and that said majority must bow to their demands.

Then they attack those who defy them, by "murdering" them (here, in the court of public opinion versus physically), singling them out (a gay fatwa?), and rewarding those of other religions who will support them while forexacting the cost of putting up with them (dhimmitude). It trouble them that we will not worship at the pagan altar of their new GLBTQ religion.

This is, quite simply, a new face of heresy, coming in the form of an attempt to dismantle the Church from without.


On a different tack, this is patently slanderous toward the Catholic Church (and I would think also the Mormon Church and most Evangelical Churches), who love the homosexual as a fellow sinner, but will not accept the possibility of subscribing to the "Gay lifestyle." The Courage apostolate is a prime example of this.

These are perilous times. I'm afrid that all too soon these strong words are going to beget actions and new martyrs.

22 posted on 10/16/2009 5:28:43 AM PDT by GCC Catholic (0bama, what are you hiding? Just show us the birth certificate...)
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“Homosexual Activist Advises ‘Active Measures’...”

That statement is pregnant with threats. Yet, there is no mention of it in the press or denounced by the usual suspects as “hate speech”.

It seems that all that hypocrisy that is alleged by the left is just a projection of its own lack of integrity.

IMHO


23 posted on 10/16/2009 5:29:55 AM PDT by ripley
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To: NYer
Be careful

The Christian KRISTALLNACHT is coming. Protect yourselves and protect your churhes.

Throwing blood on the altar in the eighties will lead to deaths on the altars in the new millennium

24 posted on 10/16/2009 5:30:17 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Angry about where our country is going with the current regime at the helm.)
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====”“Among our greatest adversaries who actively work against us are the leaders of the Catholic, Mormon, and evangelical churches who seek to deny equal protection for us and for our children.”========

“Among our greatest adversaries who actively work against us are the leaders of the HOMOSEXUAL GROUPS, who seek to deny equal protection for us and for our children.”

There, how does that sound? Why would the same sentence (reversed) make me a bigot? We are on to you....you want a fight?


25 posted on 10/16/2009 5:30:56 AM PDT by mikelets456
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I love their intolerance of people who disagree with their intolerant stance. “You will accept us or else”. Yea right, that works.


26 posted on 10/16/2009 5:31:11 AM PDT by Texas resident ( Doing my part to piss off the heathen left.)
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To: NYer

Time yet for another civil war?


27 posted on 10/16/2009 5:36:48 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: MrB

Under the PERVERTED color of law...

Of course you are right.

And we stupidly respond that the law is the law.

I am fast being convinced that our leftist bretheren may have something in saying that the laws are “wrong”.

Makes me no better than them? Tough. Enough is enough. You SEE what happens when they have unlimited power. The words freedom and liberty are crap on their tongues.

It ends now.


28 posted on 10/16/2009 5:40:46 AM PDT by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero since 1-20-09!)
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To: NYer
He called on his allies to combat “head-on” religious organizations opposed to homosexual causes and to take “active measures” against them.

So where is the legacy media's outrage at this? They were all up in arms about conservative talk radio promoting violence. Even made the ridiculous claims that talk radio was responsible for the shooting of that abortion doctor. (what a stretch, it'd be laughable if they weren't serious) They're currently trying to beat the drum that Fox etc. are threats to 'rat politicians at town halls etc. promoting open carry or concealed carry to events. yadda yadda.

So, here is a guy openly calling for "active measures" against political opponents. Where's the outrage legacy media? ... {crickets} ... Oops, your hypocrisy is showing again!

29 posted on 10/16/2009 5:40:54 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

geocities was an awful idea. it offered a free web page to anyone, but it couldn’t be hotlinked. it gave an impression of legitimacy to any source, so your geo page about the 17th Missippi Regiment appeared in searches right next to the page by some pothead that spent his whole life in Hawaii. and whaddaya know, yahoo! will shut down the geocities service this october.

geo was a classic dot-con. it never made a profit, was sold in a deluded stock market that wanted to believe that everything ‘tech’ was solid gold, and proved itself a loss of three and a half billion dollars.

a relevant quote: Rupert Goodwins, the editor of ZDNet, perceived the closure of GeoCities as an end of an era; he described GeoCities as “the first proof that you could have something really popular and still not make any money on the internet.”


30 posted on 10/16/2009 5:44:50 AM PDT by sig226 (My President was President of the week at the Norwegian Slough Academy.)
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To: Adder

Perversion of the law is what flawed mankind does when not anchored to an unchanging, objective Law. God gave us this objective, infallible, unchanging Law. Our founders recognized this concept and fashioned our government based on that assumption.


31 posted on 10/16/2009 5:49:43 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: NYer

PING = LATER


32 posted on 10/16/2009 5:54:22 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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True Christianity, of course, are the perverts biggest obstacle to indoctrinating/perverting/molesting our children. It is because of the morality...the Truth and the real Faith. These freaks demand our children, they truly believe they have a right to them, physically and psychologically.

This is nothing new of course, the fact that these freaks, the homosexuals seeking to indoctrinate our children, believe they have a right to the children. This kind of thought has been around throughout all recorded history amongst the perverted. In Greece homosexual conduct between a teacher and student was considered a valuable part of the education process. The family, on the other hand, was simply necessary for procreation. Today's perverts believe the traditional family is not even necessary.

Romans 1

18 The wrath of God is indeed being revealed from heaven against every impiety and wickedness of those who suppress the truth by their wickedness.

19 For what can be known about God is evident to them, because God made it evident to them.

20 Ever since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes of eternal power and divinity have been able to be understood and perceived in what he has made. As a result, they have no excuse;

21 for although they knew God they did not accord him glory as God or give him thanks. Instead, they became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened.

22 While claiming to be wise, they became fools

23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for the likeness of an image of mortal man or of birds or of four-legged animals or of snakes.

24 Therefore, God handed them over to impurity through the lusts of their hearts 15 for the mutual degradation of their bodies.

25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie and revered and worshiped the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

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I found this interesting:

What American Jews Have Achieved For Homosexuality

From Dick Eastman

10-11-9

Source: http://rense.com/general87/dech.htm

Larry Kramer - co-founder of "Act Up," a homosexual/AIDS activist organization; co-founder of the Gay Men's Health Crisis

Alan Klein - co-founder of group ACT UP, co-founder of group Queer Nation, National Communications Director and chief spokesperson for the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD]. Klein also co-founded the successful multimedia campaign

< http://stopdrlaura.com/ > STOPDRLAURA.COM

Arnie Kantrowitz - co-founder of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD].

Jonathan D. Katz - founded and chairs the Harvey Milk Institute, the largest queer studies institute in the world. A long time queer political activist, was a co-founder of Queer Nation, [the key San Francisco branch].

Harvey Fierstein - film actor [Mrs. Doubtfire]; well-known gay activist.

Moisés Kaufman - playwright and film director [The Laramie Project].

Israel Fishman - founder of the Gay Liberation Caucus in 1970 [now known as the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgendered Round Table of the American Library Association], the world's first gay professional organization.

Bella Abzug and Edward Koch - both Jewish - the first members of the U.S. House of Representatives to introduce legislation banning discrimination based on sexual orientation [1974].

Winnie Stachelberg - political director, Human Rights Campaign [HRC]

Michael S. Aronowitz, The New York Log Cabin Republicans.

Tony Kushner - gay activist; Tony and 1993 Pulitzer Prize-winning playwright [for Angels in America, 1992].

Len Hirsch - president of the GLBT federal government employees group, GLOBE.

Meg Moritz, Ph.D. - a Director and member of the Executive Committee of GLAAD.

Barbara Raab - an NBC-TV producer; a "Jewish lesbian feminist journalist, writer."

Charles Kaiser [?] - author & founding member of National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association [NLGJA].

David Goodstein - owner/publisher of the gay magazine The Advocate [1975-1985]; co-founder of the National Gay Rights Lobby.

Judy Wieder - Editor-in-chief, The Advocate gay magazine.

Alison Bechdel [?] - cartoonist creator and author of the bi-weekly comic strip "Dykes to Watch Out For."

Kevin Koffler - Editor-in-chief, Genre gay magazine.

Garrett Glaser - National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association [NLGJA] national board member.

Ronald Gold - reporter for Variety; a leader in the fight to overturn the American Psychiatric Association's policy that homosexuality is an illness.

Magnus Hirschfeld [d. 1935], early gay rights activist in Germany; founded one of the first gay rights organizations, the Scientific Humanitarian Committee; coined the term "transvestism"; fled Nazi Germany.

Fred Hochberg - deputy administrator, U.S. Small Business Administration; co-chair of the Human Rights Campaign [HRC].

Michael Berman - member, Human Rights Campaign Board of Directors.

Mitchell Gold - HRC Board

Marty Lieberman - HRC Board

Andy Linsky - HRC Board

Dana Perlman - HRC Board

Abby Rubenfeld - HRC Board

Andrew Tobias - HRC Board

Lara Schwartz - Senior Counsel, HRC

Heather Wellman - HRC Field Coordinator

Dan Furmansky - HRC Senior Field Organizer, West

Sally Green - HRC Associate Field Director

Rick Rosendall [?] - President, Gay & Lesbian Activists Alliance of Washington, DC.

Barney Frank - member of U.S. Congress; helped create non-discriminatory employment policies in all U.S. federal agencies

Kerry Lobel - executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force.

Robin Margolis, American coordinator of the Bi Women's Cultural Alliance and author [Bisexuality: A Practical Guide].

Evan Wolfson, Senior Staff Attorney, Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund - and - the executive director of Freedom to Marry.

Jennifer Einhorn - Communications Director, Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD]

Nancy Alpert [?] - Treasurer, GLAAD

Judy Gluckstern - Board of Directors, GLAAD.

Stephen M. Jacoby - Board of Directors, GLAAD.

Matt Riklin - Board, GLAAD

Carol Rosenfeld - Board, GLAAD.

William Weinberger - Board, GLAAD

Tanya Wexler - Board, GLAAD.

David Huebner - GLAAD Counsel.

Richard Goldstein - Village Voice writer on gay culture and politics

Ron Schlittler - Director of Field & Policy, Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays [PFLAG].

Craig Ziskin - Deputy Director of Development, PFLAG.

Debra Weill - Senior Field & Policy Coordinator, PFLAG.

Dody Goldstein - Board of Directors, PFLAG.

David Horowitz - Board of Directors, PFLAG.

Shawn Frank - Board of Directors, PFLAG.

Leon Weinstein - Chair, Nominating Committee, PFLAG.

Kate Kendell [?], National Center for Lesbian Rights.

Gayle Rubin - lesbian author/activist.

Hilary Rosen - a founding member of the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund; former board co-chair of the Human Rights Campaign.

Roz Richter, American attorney and activist.

Bob Kunst - long-time activist in gay and Jewish causes.

"Gay, Lesbian & Straight Education Network" [GLSEN]. Board co-chairs: Marty Seldman, president

"National Gay & Lesbian Task Force" [NGLTF].

Board co-chairs:

..... Rachel Rosen in Santa Fe, N.M

Dave Fleischer - Director of Training [political training], NGLTF.

Craig Hoffman - Board of Directors, NGLTF.

Beth Zemsky - Board, NGLTF.

Marsha C. Botzer - Treasurer, NGLTF.

Jeff Levi - first, Levi was NGTF's lobbyist, early 1980s [NGTF became NGLTF in 1985]. Later, he was NGLTF executive director.

Bill Rubenstein, J.D. '86, developed the ACLU Lesbian and Gay Rights Project

Martin Duberman - author/historian; founded the Center for Lesbian and Gay Studies at the City University of New York.

Ben Schatz '81, J.D. '85, is executive director of the Gay and Lesbian Medical Foundation.

Kevin Schaub, American; Executive Director and Dean of the Harvey Milk Institute in San Francisco, the world's largest center for queer studies.

Sarah Schulman [1958- ], American playwright, novelist, and activist [one of the founders of the Lesbian Avengers, a direct-action lesbian rights organization].

Susan Spielman - principal/head of Common Ground, an education/consulting firm specializing in workplace sexual orientation education; her company has worked with hundreds of U.S. organizations, helping them to implement domestic partner benefits plans; co-author of the book Straight Talk About Gays in the Workplace.

Gertrude Stein - wrote the first openly lesbian novel, "Q.E.D.," in 1903, but it was only published posthumously in 1950.

Rikki Streicher (1925-1994), American activist and businesswoman.

Michael Goff - founded Out magazine in 1992.

Paulette Goodman - founder of local chapter [Washington D.C.] of PFLAG and served as President of the National PFLAG organization from 1988-1992.

Jeffrey Newman, American, president and COO of the Gay Financial Network; president and CEO of out.com.

Jim Levin - New York gay historian.

Barrett Brick - GLAA [Gay and Lesbian Activists Alliance] Treasurer.

Robin Tyler - American comedian [born Arlene Chernick] who was the first openly gay comic in North America; Tyler is also an activist who was the stage producer for the first three gay marches on Washington and the national protest coordinator for the "Stop Dr. Laura" campaign; she produces women's comedy and music festivals, and operates a lesbian travel-tour company.

Dr. Bruce Voeller [1935?-1994] [?] American gay rights activist, molecular biologist, physiologist, and AIDS researcher (pioneer in the use of nonoxynol-9 as a spermicide); cofounder and first executive director of the National Gay Task Force; creator of the Mariposa Foundation [an AIDS prevention research organization].

Mark Elderkin [?] - co-founded Gay.com.

Leroy Aarons - American professor, journalist, and founder of the National Gay and Lesbian Journalists Association (1990).

Dr. Donald I. Abrams - American physician, HIV expert, medical marijuana researcher, and past president of the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association.

Johnny Abush (1952-2000) - [Canadian]; archivist of the International Jewish GBLT Archives.

Roberta Achtenberg [1950- ]; civil rights lawyer and federal official; appointed as Assistant Secretary for Fair Housing and Equal Opportunity by President Bill Clinton in 1993.

Miriam Ben-Shalom [1948- ], American Army Reserves drill sergeant and gay activist; in 1986 she won a ten-year legal battle with the Reserves when a court ordered her reinstatement; founder of the Gay, Lesbian, and Bisexual Veterans Association [GLBVA] in 1990, serving as its first president.

Larry Brinkin, American gay activist who brought the first domestic partnership lawsuit [against Southern Pacific Railroad, 1982].

Rob Eichberg, American psychologist, co-creator of National Coming Out Day [October 11th].

Scott Evertz, American; in April 2001, President Bush appointed him to serve as the Director of the White House Office of National AIDS Policy [ONAP].

Gene Falk [?, Jewish name], American business executive; Senior Vice President of the Showtime Digital Media Group; part of the team that launched and marketed the U.S. TV series Queer as Folk; Chair of the Board of Directors of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD].

Surina Kahn - American lesbian activist.

Larry Kessler - founding director in 1983 of the AIDS Action Committee of Massachusetts, the largest AIDS support organization in New England.

Kathy Levinson - American investor and philanthropist; serves on the board of PlanetOut; also on NGLTF Board of Directors.

Judith Light - actress, activist for gay causes.

David Mixner - gay activist, political consultant; co-founder of the Municipal Elections Committee of Los Angeles [MECLA], a group of wealthy gays and lesbians who became influential in local politics; president Bill Clinton's Special Liaison to the Gay-Lesbian Community.

Dan Savage - American author of gay-themed books [The Kid: What Happened After My Boyfriend and I Decided to Go Get Pregnant; Skipping Towards Gomorrah: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Pursuit of Happiness in America] and gay-themed- sex-advice columnist [Savage Love].

Susan Schuman, American executive vice-president and general manager of the Planet Out gay and lesbian online service.

Scott Seomin, American entertainment media coordinator for the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD].

Jason Serinus [Jay Guy Nassberg] - founder and coordinator of the Lavender Healing Network; a former gay activist with the New York chapter of the Gay Liberation Front.

David Sine [?] - American CEO of C1TV, the first U.S. gay and lesbian cable TV network.

Rex Wockner - longtime gay, American journalist who has reported news for the gay press since 1985.

Jack Fritscher - became Editor in Chief of Drummer gay magazine [1977].

Leslie Feinberg [1949- ], American trade unionist, transgender activist and author [Transgender Warriors: Making History from Joan of Arc to RuPaul].

Allan Ginsburg - late Jewish poet and leading member of North American Man Boy Love Association


33 posted on 10/16/2009 6:00:26 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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Wealthy homosexual activist are USEFUL IDIOTS.

History shows over and over, that the left first eliminates the agitators like theses activists. There is no room in the Brand New World of socialism for non-productive people. Of course some will become members of the elite, but most will be purged.


34 posted on 10/16/2009 6:09:51 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Le Chien Rouge

Bigger picture -

the goal is the destruction of the family.

Homos are butt one of the vehicles toward this goal.


35 posted on 10/16/2009 6:11:57 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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Mr Bohnett cannot escape facts however:

http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/144/10/916

I'm sure there are many more studies like this.

36 posted on 10/16/2009 6:16:25 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Just say no to Soylent Green health care)
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To: Chickensoup

KOC, the sword is ceremonial. The Glock is real.


37 posted on 10/16/2009 6:16:45 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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What is "active measures"?

bombs? murder?

He also said it was important to support religious leaders and institutions that embrace “full equality” for homosexuals and their families.

Thats it exactly. "Independent" thinking means THEY tell you what to think. THEY force people to "embrace" them, not tolerate them.

“It’s time we raise our children to be independent thinkers and deeply suspicious of bible beating organized religion. We’d be much better off if parents were honest with their children about the hypocrisy of some churches with regard to homosexuality.”

He has an odd idea of "independent thinking" doesn't he?

38 posted on 10/16/2009 6:20:18 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
"Free thinker" has long been the euphemism for atheist or secular humanist (an SH is just an unwitting Satanist).

"Quest" for kids - a camp for children of "freethinking parents"

39 posted on 10/16/2009 6:24:12 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: jacknhoo; SJackson

I tend to doubt that an of the folks you listed are observant Jews, and most obviously are not Orthodox. I expect you could easily assemble a list of sinful Christians longer than this.


40 posted on 10/16/2009 6:25:18 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (He said red, yellow, black or white, All are equal in his sight, Mmm, mmm, mm!, Barack Hussein Obama)
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