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Children & Families Suffered in Mao Purges (Anita Dunn's Beloved "1947" of China Reviewed)
Telegraph UK ^ | 31 October 2008 | Malcom Moore

Posted on 10/16/2009 6:39:02 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo

According to "Mao, the Unknown Story", a biography of the dictator by Jung Chang, the fight against the landlords was drawn up between March and June 1947 by Kang Sheng, an expert on terror tactics. "Kang told the cadres and activists to treat whole families as targets, even children," writes Chang. "He stood by smiling when village children beat up 'little landlords' as children from the wrong families were called." The campaign widened to include many people who were enemies of the Party, or of their local villages, but not necessarily landed rich...

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1947; anitadunn; china; fox; glenbeck; mao; obama; why1947
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This part, if Glen and his staff were a little bit more knowledgeable of the internal Chinese Communist Party history, and particulary the "1947" period Comrade Anita Dunn of the White House so BOLDLY proclaimed to the D.C.-area high school students this summer in her reference to Mao Zedong, may well have jumped out of the video at them.

I believe the Maryland-elite Red Guard's comments in the Washington National Cathedral were:

"In 1947, when Mao Zedong was being challenged within his own party on his plan to basically take China over, Chiang Kai-shek and the Nationalist Chinese held the cities, they had the army, they had the air force, they had everything on their side. And people said, "How can you win? How can you do this? How can you do this against all of the odds against you?" And Mao Zedong said, you know, "You fight your war, and I'll fight mine." And think about that for a second." (End Quote)

I personally believe one and maybe THE reason this lady mentioned 1947 so highbrow-ish, pronounced and specifically to those poor high school kids is that she, too, coming from an educated, elite Marxist Revolutionary position quite familiar with Modern Chinese history knows that--just as she asserted--that year in fact represented pivotal internal struggles within the CCP, and represented the biggest ramp up of terror and it's political tactics to win the Communist Revolution at any cost.

Now, on Friday morning, I say to the various apologists and spinners for the Obama White House's Ms. Dunn and her disgusting, unacceptable public words, HOW DOES MS. DUNN's "1947", which she spouts so energetically, have anything to do with "mere philosophy" or "choices" as you parse words?

In my own estimation and maybe sensing of things, I believe herein lies why she does really in fact admire Mao, and has thought it over thoroughly through the years. Again, we need only study just 1947, a year in which I found other references detailing the Chinese Communist Party was internally divided as to how radical it needed to get, including significant escalation of of political purges. Chairman Mao Zedong was on the considerably more bloody, terror side of that division in that year.

So apparantly is admirer Anita Dunn.

Go ahead. Watch the Anita Dunn tape again. Why in the hell is this person even in the White House?

1 posted on 10/16/2009 6:39:03 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Stop the Federal Usurpation

Time to tell Washington to STFU - Stop The Federal Usurpation. Federal usurpation of individual state rights continues to erode and to limit the ability of state governments to operate according to their own citizen's directives. Since, as the original intent of the Constitution directed, the best government is one which governs closer to the people and Federal Usurpation is the greatest threat we face today, it is time to tell Washington to STFU.

2 posted on 10/16/2009 6:42:59 AM PDT by jessduntno (Tell Obama to STFU - Stop The Federal Usurpation.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; All

20 minute clip here...

Beck Plays Explosive Video of WH Communications Director Praising Mao:
http://www.breitbart.tv/beck-plays-explosive-video-of-wh-communications-director-praising-mao/


3 posted on 10/16/2009 6:43:43 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

If she admires his “philosophy in a general, academic sense”, (which is bad enough and she will probably try to use to wiggle out of), then why the big emphasis by her on the Internal Situation of the Chinese Communist Party in 1947. It was when she threw that year out, and the way she did, that I almost dropped the pizza from the microwave.


4 posted on 10/16/2009 6:46:40 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (If Obama destroys the Republic, the GOP will be worse than the Democrats, for failing to block him)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

..another UK story the US MSM won’t research for fear of disturbing Odumbo’s grand illusion....
HEY CHARLIE GIBSON.....you ****ing paying attention now, you POS


5 posted on 10/16/2009 6:48:30 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Excellent point.

But many of these radicals were/are Maoist revolutionaries. Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), the Weather Underground, Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, the Black Panthers, the Black Liberation Army, Farrakhan’s so-called “Nation of Islam”, etc.


6 posted on 10/16/2009 6:52:39 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
It saddens me that so many people will hear this news and say "meh". Most Americans have a natural revulsion to Hilter (as they should) but don't bat an eyelash at Mao, who makes Hitler look like a damn piker.

BTW, I hope someone in Glenn's staff noticed the "lizard tongue" and is checking her background for possible drug abuse...

7 posted on 10/16/2009 6:53:30 AM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Apparently you think being a communist is a negative.

As an aside, it occurs to me that obama has never been asked point blank what his political and economic philosophies are, and why he holds them.

Barack Obama is a communist, just like his scum father. Whichever one that may be.


8 posted on 10/16/2009 6:53:48 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: ETL

It was that great “conservative” John Lennon who sang, “And if you been carrying pictures of Chairman Mao, you ain’t gonna make it with anyone anyhow”. Perhaps Anita Dunn should have listened to the Beatles; with her appreciation for the mass murdering Mao, it sounds more like she listened instead to Charles Manson and the Family Jam.


9 posted on 10/16/2009 6:54:59 AM PDT by laconic
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To: AmericanInTokyo; PJ-Comix
Images from China (thanks to DU who cheered this)





10 posted on 10/16/2009 6:55:47 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: AmericanInTokyo; MinuteGal; mcmuffin; gonzo; Bob Ireland; seekthetruth; surfer; ...

bttt


11 posted on 10/16/2009 6:56:39 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (A Socialist becomes a Fascist the minute he tries to enforce his "beliefs" on the rest of us.)
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To: All
Millions More Movement rally
Washington D.C., October 15, 2005
Louis Farrakhan speech

Louis Farrakhan, at the Millions More Movement rally in DC, Oct 15, 2005: "...what Mao Tse Tung did was, he went to the cultural community, and they [Farrakhan spreads his arms beneficently] accepted his idea."... "Mao Tse Tung ... had a billion people whose lives he had to transform."..."the idea of Mao Tse Tung became the idea of a billion people, and China became a world power on the base of the culture and the arts community. If we had a ministry of art and culture in every city we'd create this movement [in the U.S.]."
Source: http://thedrunkablog.blogspot.com/2005/10/communist-plot-noted.html
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Louis Farrakhan, Santiago de Cuba, February, 1998: "There is not a member of the black masses in the United States who is not proud of the example set by Cuba and its revolution, with Comandante Fidel at its head"
Source: http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/farakhan21898.html#says
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"Minister Farrakhan and his delegation met privately with President Fidel Castro of Cuba."
http://www.finalcall.com/media/cuba/
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From Louis Farrakhan's "Nation Of Islam" website, FinalCall.com...
Re: Millions More Movement rally, Oct 15, 2005:

Unity generates power to change reality
By the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan

"The time has never been more ripe for a strategic relationship between the Black, Brown, Native American and the poor of this nation and the world."

"We need a Ministry of Defense. Our young men are born soldiers, but they are in the wrong war. They are fighting a war in the streets of America against each other, or they are fighting an unjust war overseas in Afghanistan and Iraq. We need to bring our boys home and put them into the Ministry of Defense, so we can defend our communities, rather than destroy our communities.

We need a Ministry of Art and Culture. We applaud the hip hop community, the leaders of young people all over the world, but I want the young generation of artists to know there is a bigger purpose for art and culture than popping our fingers and shaking our backsides. Mao Tse Tung, throughout his long march to conquer China, had a billion people whose lives he had to transform. Many of them were victims of opium, drugs and prostitution, like we are. But Mao Tse Tung went to the cultural community and they accepted his idea. Then, through song, dance, poetry, drama, documentaries, movies and books, the idea of Mao Tse Tung became the idea of a billion people. China became a world power on the base of culture and the artistic community. If we had a Ministry of Art and Culture in every city, [we'd] create this movement [in the U.S.], we could say to our young people, “What is the idea of the Time and are you reflecting that idea in your songs, dance and music?

We need a Ministry of Trade and Commerce. Do you think that a Millions More Movement should not be involved in the development of Africa, the Caribbean and Central America? ... we need a Ministry of Trade and Commerce that can link the struggle here with Africa and the Caribbean, Central and South America.

Source: FinalCall.com
This is Farrakhan's own "Nation Of Islam" website
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_4328.shtml

Note: should the original page mysteriously vanish, try this linked cache form:
http://74.6.239.67/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=%22We+need+a+Ministry+of+Defense.+Our+young+men+are+born+soldiers%2C+but+they+are+in+the+wrong+war.%22%22mao%22&fr=moz2&u=www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_4328.shtml&w=%22we+need+a+ministry+of+defense+our+young+men+are+born+soldiers+but+they+are+in+the+wrong+war%22+mao&d=A4xrG52uSSxU&icp=1&.intl=us
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Farrakhan hails Obama as 'hope of entire world'

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Louis Farrakhan, at the annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008: "This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better"..."If you look at Barack Obama's audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed."
Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23333598/

Video of Farrakhan's Obama endorsement at the above 'annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008'. Hear him (Farrakhan) call Obama "The Messiah" And speak of "universal change":
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=farrakhan+messiah+obama&aq=0&oq=Farrakhan+messiah

12 posted on 10/16/2009 6:56:43 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

"While the other girls were going out with guys, I was curled up with a book by Mao...I can't talk about it anymore...I'm getting too excited."

13 posted on 10/16/2009 6:59:15 AM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: All
RE: Obama's (former) "Green Jobs Czar", Van Jones

Van Jones became a revolutionary communist following the 1992 L.A./Rodney King Riots (58 dead)
various sources

Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 10:19:07 AM by ETL

"Jones was arrested during the L.A. riots and spent a short time in jail. "I met all these young radical people of color," he recalls, 'I mean really radical: communists and anarchists. And it was, like, "This is what I need to be a part of." I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary.'..."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2333342/posts
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From David Horowitz's FrontpageMag.com /DiscoverTheNetworks.org:

"Throughout its history, one of RCP's [Revolutionary Communist Party] principal objectives has been to foment civil unrest in the United States. The most notable example of such efforts occurred on April 29, 1992, when RCP members looted and trashed the downtown and government districts of Los Angeles, triggering the infamous Rodney King riots. During the days immediately preceding the violence, RCP -- which maintained close ties to the L.A. gangs known as the Crips and the Bloods -- had circulated throughout South Central Los Angeles a leaflet featuring a statement by RCP National Spokesman Carl Dix, titled 'It's Right To Rebel' -- a quote popularized by Mao Zedong.

Encouraged by Dix, RCP activists helped lead the riots that would leave 58 people dead, more than 2,300 people injured, some 5,300 buildings burned, and $1 billion in property damaged or destroyed. On the ten-year anniversary of the rioting, RCP member Joseph Veale fondly recalled the violence as 'the most beautiful, the most heroic civil action in the history of the United States.'"
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6197
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The RCP calls for the armed overthrow of the U.S. government...

From the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party (revcom.us or rwor.org) :

"Create Public Opinion, Seize Power: We are preparing minds and organizing forces for the time when there is a major crack in the system, whenever it comes and wherever it comes from: an opening that makes it possible to bring the future Revolutionary Army of the Proletariat (R.A.P.) into the field and wage a revolutionary armed struggle that actually has a chance of winning.

And we have said that building our party itself is the most important part of organizing forces for revolution. This is true now, and it is true looking forward to the creation of that future R.A.P. and the waging of that armed struggle.":

http://revcom.us/a/v20/1000-1009/1000/barw.htm
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REVOLUTION: Voice of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA [Maoist]
[Revolution] Interview with Bill Ayers, Revolution #63, October 1, 2006:
"On Progressive Education, Critical Thinking and the Cowardice of Some in Dangerous Times"
http://rwor.org/a/063/ayers-en.html
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"This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English..."
--B.H. Obama

YouTube Video:
The O'Reilly Factor confronts Bill Ayers:
October 24, 2008:
(note the red communist star on his shirt)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP3uvK9gTIY
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14 posted on 10/16/2009 6:59:16 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

That you have members of the Obama administration openly declaring
that Mao is one of their "favorite philosophers" shows you the kind
of kooks and lunatics that are running the government now.
"Lunatics running the asylum."

Then there's the "science czar" who wants to dope the water supply
with anti-fertility sterilization drugs for coercive population control.
And they're fact-checking the Saturday Night Live skits?
No one in the administration is "ready for primetime"!


15 posted on 10/16/2009 6:59:47 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: All
"It was at the Chicago home of [Bill] Ayers and [Bernardine] Dohrn that Obama, then an up-and-coming 'community organizer,' had his political coming out party in 1995. Not content with this rite of passage in Lefty World — where unrepentant terrorists are regarded as progressive luminaries, still working 'only to educate' — both Obamas tended to the relationship with the Ayers."
Article: The Company He Keeps:
Meet Obama’s circle: The same old America-hating Left
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YThjYTU1ZDBjNmQ2YzcwNzU1MmYwN2JiMWY0ZGI0NDA=&w=MA==
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Undercover agent Larry Grathwohl discusses the Weather Underground's post-revolution governing plans for the United States:

Larry Grathwohl:

"I asked, 'well what is going to happen to those people we can't reeducate, that are diehard capitalists?' and the reply was that they'd have to be eliminated. And when I pursued this further, they estimated they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these reeducation centers. And when I say 'eliminate,' I mean 'kill.' Twenty-five million people. I want you to imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of which have graduate degrees, from Columbia and other well-known educational centers, and hear them figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people. And they were dead serious."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ
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"Dig It. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!"
-Weather Underground leader and wife of Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, referring to the Manson murders

Article: Allies in War -by David Horowitz
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, September 17, 2001
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=63512670-BF7C-42A0-B41D-5D0FB9E09C09
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"Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at"
--Bill Ayers (1970), quoted in New York Times, September 11, 2001:

Article: "No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen"
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1
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The Center for Public Intellectuals & The University of Illinois-Chicago (UIC)
April 19th-20th, 2002, Conference

[Participants include: William/Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, Sen Barack Obama]

April 19th-20th, 2002
Chicago Illini Union
828 S. Wolcott

This conference is part of the Center's mission of helping to create a more engaged civil society, working towards social change, fostering coalitions between theorists and activists, and combating anti-intellectualism in contemporary culture. It will be both a celebration of ideas and a rigorous examination of the roles and responsibilities that intellectuals play in society.

I. Why Do Ideas Matter? (a keynote panel)

We introduce the “meta” theme of the conference by hearing “success stories” from diverse voices discussing their experiences intervening intellectually.

Timuel Black, Chicago activist; Prof. Emeritus, City Colleges of Chicago
Lonnie Bunch, President, Chicago Historical Society
Bernardine Dohrn, Northwestern University Law School, Children and Family Justice Center
Gerald Graff, UIC, College of Liberal Arts & Sciences
Richard Rorty, Stanford University, Philosophy

III. Lunch and Public Encounters

Alternative breakout tours led by Chicago activists. Tours of Bronzeville and other communities, and visits to organizations that are working on partnering theorists with activists.

IV. Intellectuals in Times of Crisis
Experiences and applications of intellectual work in urgent situations.

William Ayers, UIC, College of Education; author of Fugitive Days
Douglass Cassel, Northwestern University, Center for International Human Rights
Cathy Cohen, University of Chicago, Political Science
Salim Muwakkil, Chicago Tribune; In These Times
Barack Obama, Illinois State Senator
Barbara Ransby, UIC, African-American Studies (moderator)

The Center for Public Intellectuals
University of Illinois-Chicago (UIC):
http://www.uic.edu/classes/las/las400/conferencealt.htm

16 posted on 10/16/2009 7:00:55 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Lest we forget:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_5MY59ENrc&feature=related


17 posted on 10/16/2009 7:01:59 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ($$$$$OBAMA MONEY!!!$$$$$ /s)
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To: laconic
It was that great “conservative” John Lennon who sang, “And if you been carrying pictures of Chairman Mao, you ain’t gonna make it with anyone anyhow”. Perhaps Anita Dunn should have listened to the Beatles

Wrong. Lennon was pro-revolution, and an admirer of Mao.

The Lost John Lennon Interview
"Power to the People"

TA (interviewer): In a way you were even thinking about politics when you seemed to be knocking revolution?

JL (Lennon): Ah, sure, 'Revolution' . There were two versions of that song but the underground left only picked up on the one that said 'count me out'. The original version which ends up on the LP said 'count me in' too; I put in both because I wasn't sure. There was a third version that was just abstract, musique concrete, kind of loops and that, people screaming. I thought I was painting in sound a picture of revolution--but I made a mistake, you know. The mistake was that it was anti-revolution.

On the version released as a single I said 'when you talk about destruction you can count me out'. I didn't want to get killed. I didn't really know that much about the Maoists, but I just knew that they seemed to be so few and yet they painted themselves green and stood in front of the police waiting to get picked off. I just thought it was unsubtle, you know. I thought the original Communist revolutionaries coordinated themselves a bit better and didn't go around shouting about it. That was how I felt--I was really asking a question. As someone from the working class I was always interested in Russia and China and everything that related to the working class, even though I was playing the capitalist game.

http://beatlesnumber9.com/lostlennon.html

18 posted on 10/16/2009 7:04:03 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Repeatedly, we hear the left aligning itself with philosophies and regimes that engage in violent repression, torture, genocide and politicly motivated murder. Given their hostility toward Israel and endorsement of mass murder, one wonders why they don’t embrace Hitler and the Nazis. Is America going to be another country that allows its people to be herded into concentration camps and gas chambers while they cling to the fantasy that it can’t happen to them?


19 posted on 10/16/2009 7:09:56 AM PDT by Spok
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Re: Lennon was pro-revolution, and an admirer of Mao.

Clarification: Lennon thought that his fellow revolutionaries couldn’t gain public support if they went around openly praising Mao. He was pro-revolution, but he was just smart enough to realize that they wouldn’t stand a chance against the U.S. military, police and various other concerned citizens. I guess what he really wanted was a bloodless communist overthrow like we got in Nov 2008.


20 posted on 10/16/2009 7:13:55 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Spok
Repeatedly, we hear the left aligning itself with philosophies and regimes that engage in violent repression, torture, genocide and politicly motivated murder.

Aww, you just don't understand "Progressive-ism" /s

:)

21 posted on 10/16/2009 7:16:00 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Spok
Thanks. Good insight.

Also, not necessarily to you, but generally talking here: I'm pretty laissez faire, but; I was kinda' hopin' maybe to return this thread primarily to ANITA DUNN this morning, (I realize all the other material including lengthy/graphics ready-made cut and pastes about other revoltionaries are extremely germane and important), but if we could get some specific give and take debate and commentary on the UK article (linked above), and my additional points, regarding THIS Chick of the Hour (Anita Dunn), that might help us a bit I think. I hope to focus on her, Van Jones-style, over the next 48-72 hours, and have her OUT of there!!

Cheers to all... :-)

22 posted on 10/16/2009 7:18:04 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (If Obama destroys the Republic, the GOP will be worse than the Democrats, for failing to block him)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Why in the hell is this person even in the White House?

You know why.

23 posted on 10/16/2009 7:18:19 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker
Indeed, some questions are posed when one already quite well knows the answer. The answer of course is BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA . (mmm mmm MMM!)
24 posted on 10/16/2009 7:21:52 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (If Obama destroys the Republic, the GOP will be worse than the Democrats, for failing to block him)
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To: capt. norm

We need an animated gif with her wagging her tongue. Did anyone watching the video wonder if she spilled acid on her tongue or something.

25 posted on 10/16/2009 7:24:18 AM PDT by fulltlt
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To: Spok
Good point. I sure put Ms. Dunn in this category. Sheesh.

Anyone know if the White House is spinning this morning, if Dunn herself has a public, official accounting of herself. Glen Beck DID personally call her out very strong last night in front of MILLIONS of Americans. She HAS to respond (I would imagine). One way or another. Probably with spin and bullshit if I know the W.H.

26 posted on 10/16/2009 7:26:36 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (If Obama destroys the Republic, the GOP will be worse than the Democrats, for failing to block him)
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To: fulltlt

This idiot really is amazing. Adopting Mao style rule is like bring a pack of wolves into your home. Sooner or later you will be attacked by the pack.


27 posted on 10/16/2009 7:26:57 AM PDT by Texas resident ( Doing my part to piss off the heathen left.)
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To: Texas resident
Look into her eyes. Then listen to that speech to those kids.

These people are PURE EVIL.

They want Americans that disagree with them first silenced, then tracked, and then rounded up, and then, apparantly, lined up and shot--if they are true to their heroes and role models. I truly believe this now.

28 posted on 10/16/2009 7:28:49 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (If Obama destroys the Republic, the GOP will be worse than the Democrats, for failing to block him)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Sorry, as usual, I’m trying to get the “big picture” across that our president is surrounded totally by people who worship scum like Mao and Castro. I think most everyone here knows full well that Mao was a mass murderer of millions of people. So the details of his evilness aren’t that crucial, imo. The important thing is that she spoke so lovingly of him at that talk she gave to high school students. High school students! These people are despicable!


29 posted on 10/16/2009 7:32:24 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

I’ll stick with the former version and give him the long-term benefit of the doubt — at least he wasn’t a Mao worshipper like Anita Dunn. Moreover, Lennon’s widow, Yoko Ono, was more than prepared to mud wrestle Paul McCartney for the multi-millions in royalties from the songs he and Lennon wrote.


30 posted on 10/16/2009 7:35:52 AM PDT by laconic
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I remember seeing the authors of “Mao, The Untold Story” on BookTV
(C-Span2; weekends) doing a short lecture on their book at one of
the departments at Harvard.

After they made their reasonable argument that, of everyone in China,
Mao had the least love for the peasantry...as he starved them by
taking so much of their rice crops to sell on the international
market to raise $$$ to get nuclear weapons.

Of course, I wasn’t shocked when some aging guy (probably an emeritus
academician) complained that “Your book isn’t being fair to a
great man!” during the Q&A session.

PS: IIRC, Dubya was spotted carrying this book soon after it’s publication.


31 posted on 10/16/2009 7:48:13 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Spok
Is America going to be another country that allows its people to be herded into concentration camps and gas chambers while they cling to the fantasy that it can’t happen to them?

I think we'll probably find out...

32 posted on 10/16/2009 7:55:50 AM PDT by Red Boots
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To: ETL
Advance apologies...was late getting up today...I would have sworn that the lady speaking was Aunt Esther.
I'm glad I tuned in! Thanks so much for the thread.

Now....where's that coffee pot? :P
33 posted on 10/16/2009 8:21:33 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (And the people cry "Sarah!Sarah!" And she hears....yes,she hears......)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

My wife’s grandparents, who were large landholders and farmers, were starved to death by Mao.


34 posted on 10/16/2009 8:23:54 AM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- follow the money and you'll find truth.)
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To: gimme1ibertee

Thanks, but I didn’t post the thread. I just added some important background info to it.


35 posted on 10/16/2009 8:25:25 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Where is the elite media and Far Left mockery of Dunn that, not too long ago, was showered on a Presidential candidate who, when questioned about his favorite political philosopher, answered, "Jesus Christ."

Their ignorance then overlooked the fact that Thomas Jefferson, who penned America's Declaration of Independence which laid out the philosophical foundations of a written Constitution to protect the "Creator-endowed" rights of citizens, in others of his writings declared that Jesus "preached philanthropy and universal charity and benevolence," and that "a system of morals is presented to us [by Jesus], which, if filled up in the style and spirit of the rich fragments he left us, would be the most perfect and sublime that has ever been taught by man."

He wrote, "His moral doctrines...were more pure and perfect than those of the most correct of the philosophers...and they went far beyond both in inculcating universal philanthropy, not only to kindred and friends, to neighbors and countrymen, but to all mankind, gathering all into one family, under the bonds of love, charity, peace, common wants, and common aids," which, Jefferson said, "will evince the peculiar superiority of the system of Jesus over all others."

Comparing the Hebrew code which, according to Jefferson, "laid hold of actions only," "He [Jesus] pushed his scrutinies into the heart of man; erected his tribunal in the region of his thoughts, and purified the waters at the fountain head."

That Jefferson cut out the statements which he believed to be directly attributable to Jesus, pasted them into a little book which he kept by his bed and read from them daily, might lead one to conclude that his political philosphy may have been influenced by what he considered to be the superiority of the "philosophy" of Jesus.

It is unlikely that any person alive today has read the writings of as many of the great philosophers as Jefferson. His talents and abilities were legend. His devotion to liberty and to the ideas essential to liberty were based on simple principles, some of which, undoubtedly, came from his understanding of the basic law underlying all valid human law: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Jefferson understood that the philosophy capsulated in that idea has the power, if incorporated into individual behavior, to make people in a society more benevolent, more loving, more caring, and more willing to take care of each other.

There is a sharp contrast between a philosophy of love and the politics which motivated Mao, today's radical terrorists, as well as the radical Left which now accumulates power and spouts its personal hatred in our partisan politics. Thomas Jefferson summarized an idea that tyrants of all political persuasions deny by their seeking power over other people's lives: "The God who gave us life gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them."

Chairman Mao's philosophy doesn't even come close to the philosophy underlying America's Constitution.

"No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another; and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him." - Jefferson, 1816

36 posted on 10/16/2009 8:25:59 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Doogle
HEY CHARLIE GIBSON.....you ****ing paying attention now, you POS

Nope. He's not even bright enough to know anything about ACORN....Right.
What's going to get his attention and awaken him from his nap will be the little girl he looked over his glasses at (and may I add,God,how stupid he looked!) so many months ago.
37 posted on 10/16/2009 8:26:18 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (And the people cry "Sarah!Sarah!" And she hears....yes,she hears......)
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To: thecabal
I hope someone in Glenn's staff noticed the "lizard tongue"

LOL! His sidekick was talking about that,making slurping/lapping noises.They were laughing about it.
38 posted on 10/16/2009 8:29:53 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (And the people cry "Sarah!Sarah!" And she hears....yes,she hears......)
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To: fulltlt

Ever see that Robin Williams movie “The World According To Garp”? In the movie,Garp’s nutty mother decided to start a group of women who cut their tongues out in protest (of something, I don’t recall).Maybe this chick was a holdover from one of those types of groups.


39 posted on 10/16/2009 8:39:29 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (And the people cry "Sarah!Sarah!" And she hears....yes,she hears......)
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To: mnehring

Nice. If it walks like a duck.....


40 posted on 10/16/2009 8:40:37 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (And the people cry "Sarah!Sarah!" And she hears....yes,she hears......)
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To: ETL

Gee....what could all of this possibly mean...?
(as said by a Zero voter-now)


41 posted on 10/16/2009 8:42:21 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (And the people cry "Sarah!Sarah!" And she hears....yes,she hears......)
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To: ETL
Ooops..sorry.
I should just get coffee before even approaching a computer. I'm off work this week and I can't wait to get on FR first thing after I feed the kitties and grab my bowl of cereal. I live for Jim Thompson and Drudge! :P
42 posted on 10/16/2009 8:46:56 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (And the people cry "Sarah!Sarah!" And she hears....yes,she hears......)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Class warfare was ready to boil over in China since the fall of the last Manchu ruler and first Republic in 1911. It serves as a lesson to all nations on what happens when a few rich people run an entire nation. Obviously the Communist are anti rich and once they seize power they will go after them, but the anger of the peasants at the rich in China is also genuine. Dominant local families during KMT actually ran many local provinces. Many even had their own armies, imposed taxes, shut out all competitors, bribed KMT officials, loaned money to peasants that they knew they cannot repay and ended up creating indentured servants out of them. Their adult children can wander about and do almost anything with little or no legal consequences. When the Communist took over, all they had to do is unleash this resevoir of anger. (People in government and Wall Street bankstas should take note, screwing Main Street will have consequences). Here is the biggest irony for the Communist Chinese, today their Communist local officials and their family members are acting like the spoil thugs/brats of the warlords they punished. Must be a Chinese thing.


43 posted on 10/16/2009 8:57:59 AM PDT by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Fee says it must be a Chinese thing.
I think it’s more a human thing, some thing that
happens when you give power to some people and they
find they can use it for personal gratification.

Also, reading this thread reminded me of my younger
days as an itinerant musician, I was living in Seattle
as an apprentice to a musical instrument maker.
I lived in a boarding house and one of the other tenants
was a Maoist, yet he worked in a bank. I used to rag him
about it but he always came back that he was working
on the inside of capitalism to tear it down.

Thinking about this today I realized this man today
would have been my age and could have been a influential
bank president by now.

Fee’s mention of the relatives of the KMT making loans
to the peasants they couldn’t repay creating anger at
the ruling class is so reminiscent of the real estate
collapse of today, I have to wonder if it was not planned
that way from the very beginning?

Also thank you for your very insightful posts,
one of the things I like about FR is talking
with conservative people who live in other countries.

Your FRiend Tet.


44 posted on 10/16/2009 9:41:34 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68
Well, Ms. Dunn made a statement, and she is a scholared-woman. She needs to be pressed and to stand by her statement that Mao Tse Tung is her favorite and whom she turns to. That means, in other words, Ms. Dunn, answer the damned question. Which one of his books do you like the best, and for what reasons? You can chose. You have read him and indicated your inspiration of him as a philosopher. That means you have read his works, wherein his philosophic writings are contained. These are his works. Now TELL US...and WHY!

The Art of War by Mao Tse-Tung Softcover, El Paso Norte Pr, ISBN 097607267X (0-9760726-7-X) A Critique of Soviet Economics by Mao Tse-Tung, Moss Roberts, James Peck Softcover, Monthly Review Press, ISBN 0853454590 (0-85345-459-0) More editions of A Critique of Soviet Economics: A Critique of Soviet Economics: Hardcover, Monthly Review Press, ISBN 0853454124 (0-85345-412-4) Dr. Sun Yat Sen: Commemorative Articles and Speeches by Mao Tse-Tung, Soong Ching Ling, Chou En-lai Softcover, University Press of the Pacific, ISBN 141020569X (1-4102-0569-X) Five Articles by Chairman Mao Tsetung by Mao Tse Tung Softcover, China Books & Periodicals, ISBN 0835109704 (0-8351-0970-4) viaLiterature and Art by Mao Tse-Tung Softcover, University Press of the Pacific, ISBN 089875206X (0-89875-206-X) Lu Xun Selected Works by Mao Tse-Tung Hardcover, China Books & Periodicals, ISBN 0835107477 (0-8351-0747-7) Mao Tse-Tung: An Anthology of His Writing by Mao Tse-Tung Hardcover, Amereon Ltd, ISBN 0848812093 (0-8488-1209-3) Mao Tse-Tung: Four Essays on Philosophy by Mao Tse-Tung Softcover, University Press of the Pacific, ISBN 0898751810 (0-89875-181-0) Mao Tse-Tung on Coalition Government by Mao Tse-Tung Softcover, University Press of the Pacific, ISBN 0898751802 (0-89875-180-2) viaMao Tse-Tung, Selected Works Vol 1: 1926-1936 by Mao Tse-Tung Softcover, Kessinger Pub Co, ISBN 0548385475 (0-548-38547-5) Mao Zedong and the Political Economy of the Border Region : A Translation of Mao's Economic and Financial Problems by Andrew Watson Hardcover, Cambridge University Press, ISBN 0521225515 (0-521-22551-5) viaOn New Democracy by Mao Tse-tung Softcover, University Press of the Pacific, ISBN 1410205649 (1-4102-0564-9) On Guerrilla Warfare by Mao Tse-Tung, Griffith, Samuel B., II Softcover, University of Illinois Press, ISBN 0252068920 (0-252-06892-0) More editions of On Guerrilla Warfare: On Guerrilla Warfare: Softcover, Dover Publications, Incorporated, ISBN 0486443760 (0-486-44376-0) On Guerrilla Warfare: Softcover, Bnpublishing.Com, ISBN 956310014X (956-310-014-X) On Guerrilla Warfare: Hardcover, Bnpublishing.Com, ISBN 9563100131 (956-310-013-1) On Protracted War by Mao Tse-Tung Softcover, University Press of the Pacific, ISBN 0898751799 (0-89875-179-9) On the People's Democratic Dictatorship by Mao Tse-Tung Softcover, Yale Univ Pr, ISBN 088710052X (0-88710-052-X) The Political Thought of Mao Tse-Tung by Mao Tse-Tung, Stuart R. Schram Hardcover, Greenwood Publishing Group, Incorporated, ISBN 0275670732 (0-275-67073-2) Quotations from Chairman Mao Tsetung by Mao Tsetung, Frederick Ellis Hardcover, Synergy International of The Americas, Limited, ISBN 193456835X (1-934568-35-X) More editions of Quotations from Chairman Mao Tsetung: Quotations from Chairman Mao Tsetung: Softcover, China Books & Periodicals, ISBN 083510284X (0-8351-0284-X) Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-Tung: Hardcover, Sinolingua, ISBN 083512388X (0-8351-2388-X) Report from Xunwu by Mao Tse-Tung, Roger R. Thompson, Zedong Mao Softcover, Stanford University Press, ISBN 0804721823 (0-8047-2182-3) More editions of Report from Xunwu: Report from Xunwu: Hardcover, Stanford University Press, ISBN 0804716781 (0-8047-1678-1) viaSelected Readings from the Works of Mao Tsetung by Mao Tse-Tung Softcover, University Press of the Pacific, ISBN 0898754917 (0-89875-491-7) Selected Works of Mao Tse-Tung by Mao Tse-Tung Softcover, University Press of the Pacific, ISBN 0898755034 (0-89875-503-4) More editions of Selected Works of Mao Tse-Tung: Selected Works of Mao Tse-tung: The Third Revolutionary War Period: Softcover, University Press of the Pacific, ISBN 0898756979 (0-89875-697-9) Selected Works of Mao Tse-Tung: Hardcover, Beijing, Foreign Languages Press, ISBN 0080222625 (0-08-022262-5) Selected Works of Mao Tse-Tung: Hardcover, Beijing, Foreign Languages Press, ISBN 0080229808 (0-08-022980-8) Selected Works of Mao Tse-Tung: Hardcover, Beijing, Foreign Languages Press, ISBN 0080229824 (0-08-022982-4) Selected Works of Mao Tse-Tung: Hardcover, Beijing, Foreign Languages Press, ISBN 0080229832 (0-08-022983-2) Selected Works of Mao Tse-Tung: Hardcover, Beijing, Foreign Languages Press, ISBN 0080229840 (0-08-022984-0) Selected Works of Mao Tse-Tung; [translated from the Chinese]: Softcover, Harper & Row Limited, ISBN 0060901780 (0-06-090178-0) Selected Works of Mao Tse-Tung: The Period of the War of Resistance Against Japan by Mao Tse-Tung Softcover, University Press of the Pacific, ISBN 0898752345 (0-89875-234-5) Snow Glistens on the Great Wall: The Complete Poetical Works of Mao Tse-Tung by Mao Tse-Tung, Ma Wen-yee, Ma Wen-Yee, Fred Usher Softcover, Atlantic Books, Limited, ISBN 0915520796 (0-915520-79-6) Ten Poems and Lyrics by Mao Tse-tung by Mao Tse-Tung, Wang Hui-Ming Softcover, University of Massachusetts Press, ISBN 0870231820 (0-87023-182-0) More editions of Ten Poems and Lyrics by Mao Tse-tung: Ten Poems and Lyrics by Mao Tse-tung: Hardcover, Nottinghamshire County Council, ISBN 0870231782 (0-87023-178-2) The Wisdom of Mao Tse-Tung by Mao Tse-Tung, The Wisdom Library Softcover, Kensington Publishing Corporation, ISBN 0806523735 (0-8065-2373-5)

45 posted on 10/16/2009 10:07:10 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (If Obama destroys the Republic, the GOP will be worse than the Democrats, for failing to block him)
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To: thecabal

I most definitely noticed the lizard tongue. It was painfully obvious that this woman is demon possessed. That is a classic sign of demon possession - the continual darting out tongue. It was DIS-gusting!! What’s happening to America is DIS-gusting.

I pray that Americans will DO what they need to do to rid itself of this thugocracy. And I’m not talking about elections - they are clearly crooked now too. A revolution is certainly better than an Obamageddon!! CO


46 posted on 10/16/2009 10:34:01 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what an antibiotic is to an infection - Healing!!!!)
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To: ETL

The irony being that if a real Mao were to take over America, these groups would not be tolerate, much less allowed inside the halls of power.


47 posted on 10/16/2009 10:34:10 AM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Spok

Likely. Much to my regret there are too many gutless wimps who don’t want to step in and risk it all. GW made a lot of hard choices and they spit on him for ‘shaking things up.’


48 posted on 10/16/2009 10:38:05 AM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Fee

“anger of the peasants at the rich in China is also genuine”

Exactly. The biggest problem with the Chinese government is that it was so isolated and relied on frequently easily manipulated emperors. I mean, concubines were known to get their claws into the emperors and drain the national treasury through demanding expensive gifts. All of them lived in four square miles of a city that cut them off even from the immediate city.

“When the Communist took over, all they had to do is unleash this resevoir of anger. (People in government and Wall Street bankstas should take note, screwing Main Street will have consequences). “

Of course. I can easily see people getting pushed and then every single exec who ripped people off getting dragged out. I don’t know if anyone knows this, but right before Enron there was a similar scandal in China. The guilty ones got either life in prison or executed. That is how these things should be hnadled.


49 posted on 10/16/2009 10:43:13 AM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Look into her eyes. Then listen to that speech to those kids.
These people are PURE EVIL.
They want Americans that disagree with them first silenced, then tracked, and then rounded up, and then, apparantly, lined up and shot--if they are true to their heroes and role models. I truly believe this now.

Yes, yes, yes.

50 posted on 10/16/2009 12:26:56 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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