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Should Rush Sue CNN and the Rest of the Liberal Media For Libel?
Pinochet

Posted on 10/16/2009 4:31:10 PM PDT by pinochet

Rush's enemies in the leftist media have come up with a clever but very shameless way to smear him.

When he was bidding for the NFL team, the media came up with such outrageously shocking but blatantly false quotes allegedly made by Rush, that his NFL partners were forced to reject Rush's participation in the deal. The media knew fully well that the quotes were false. Can anybody sane make a claim that Rush made a statement supporting slavery?

Having sabotaged Rush's business deal, CNN and the media are now admitting what they already knew, that the so-called quotes were false.

What if Rush decides to sue? If the case comes to trial, they will simply dig up hundreds of other quotes that Rush may have made in a satirical tone, and use those quotes to smear Rush as a racist.

Even if Rush can show that the intitial quotes in the media amount to libel, they are capable of digging up so much dirt on Rush, that Rush will appear as a man without any reputation worth defending, even if he was genuinely libelled.


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Should Rush sue the bastards? Does he have a chance of winning a libel suit, even if his opponents dump a ton of dirt on him during the trial?
1 posted on 10/16/2009 4:31:11 PM PDT by pinochet
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To: pinochet

He must sue the source of the material published in Wiki.


2 posted on 10/16/2009 4:32:03 PM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: pinochet
I would certainly like to see him do so and win.

The liberals have turned politics into a personal blood sport. Their visceral hatred of anything they disagree with is frightening.

3 posted on 10/16/2009 4:32:52 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Don't fire unless fired upon, but it they mean to have a war, let it begin here." J Parker, 1775)
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To: pinochet

Mark Steyn pointed out that CNN networks are show in places like the UK where the Sullivan v. NY Times standard does not hold. Limbaugh might get a major bit of cash from CNN if he sued them there and around the world.


4 posted on 10/16/2009 4:34:05 PM PDT by JLS
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To: pinochet

It’s not that he doesn’t have a good case, it’s that they won’t let him win the case no matter how good it is.


5 posted on 10/16/2009 4:34:30 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Redleg Duke

Did CNN air it in England? They have some tough defamation laws.

I would love to see Rush sue Jesse Jackson.


6 posted on 10/16/2009 4:34:49 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Redleg Duke

a clear case of defamation of character.. sue the bejeesus out of those responsible.


7 posted on 10/16/2009 4:34:55 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: pinochet

I’d like to see Rush take them (anyone) for millions, and then give that money to Sarah Palin.


8 posted on 10/16/2009 4:34:55 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: pinochet

Does the sun rise in the east?

JoMa


9 posted on 10/16/2009 4:34:58 PM PDT by joma89
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To: pinochet

I think he should get, for free of course, an hour for each word in the sentences of slander to use on cnn radio or tv when he wishes.

John


10 posted on 10/16/2009 4:35:21 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: Carley
He must sue the source of the material published in Wiki.

Which turns out to be a sh*t-eating jockstrap-sniffing New York law firm (surprise).

11 posted on 10/16/2009 4:35:55 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Truth--The liberal's Kryptonite)
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To: madison10

I think he should go after the small fries and work his way up. That way the winnings can fund the next law suit. They all need to be spanked hard.


12 posted on 10/16/2009 4:36:54 PM PDT by Anastas
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To: pinochet

If he doesn’t take action to stop the lies (suit or whatever else), they will keep it up. He has already predicted that they will next go after his announced judgeship for the Miss America contest. After that what else is he involved in or wants to be involved in? The left just keeps coming.


13 posted on 10/16/2009 4:37:00 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: pinochet
I think a lawsuit might be in order, but patience might be the key strat for now.

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14 posted on 10/16/2009 4:37:14 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: pinochet

They would have to prove there was no malice! Good luck with that!


15 posted on 10/16/2009 4:38:03 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: pinochet

I would choose my target(s)carefully and go for it.


16 posted on 10/16/2009 4:38:03 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: pinochet

He could sue. He might win. But it’s not his style he’ll just turn it into a teachable moment.


17 posted on 10/16/2009 4:38:32 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: pinochet

Yes, he should sue every last one of them. At the very least, it will force a discovery process and the public can finally see the close ties between the MSM and the White House.


18 posted on 10/16/2009 4:38:35 PM PDT by nomoremods
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To: pinochet

ok, let’s not make this a, “I’d like to see”, “gee that’d be swell”, kind of discussion...we’re supposed to be smart folks here...

Any lawyers who care to opine?

I’d really like to see what the cost analysis is, that is, what kinda time it would take on Rush’s part and would he need to make court appearances, etc.?

What he did today is great, that is, until you realize the media listens to it, but the media’s stupid lemmings don’t listen to Rush and are still brainwashed. Winning a lawsuit would get their attention.


19 posted on 10/16/2009 4:38:43 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Which turns out to be a sh*t-eating jockstrap-sniffing New York law firm (surprise).

Name please?

20 posted on 10/16/2009 4:39:08 PM PDT by sausageseller (http://coolblue.typepad.com/the_cool_blue_blog/)
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To: pinochet

OH HELL YES!


21 posted on 10/16/2009 4:39:17 PM PDT by imahawk (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: pinochet

I’d rather he concentrated his time energy and resources on taking down specific targets, like Beck did with Van Jones.


22 posted on 10/16/2009 4:39:41 PM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: pinochet

Of course he should sue. Is the purpose of this article to suggest he cave and not stand on his rights? F that.


23 posted on 10/16/2009 4:40:09 PM PDT by Tax Government (Mighty nuts from tiny Acorns grow.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

When and if it comes out I’d be willing to bet that whoever put the slavery quote at Wiki had heard a joke to that effect, thought it was funny, and decided to attribute it to Rush in order to damage him. These leftists, the guilty white liberal variety, are more racist than the most raging KKKer.


24 posted on 10/16/2009 4:40:43 PM PDT by EDINVA (Obama CAN'T see the Olympics from his back porch !)
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To: Seaplaner

A lawsuit would make the OJ Simpson murder trial appear to be a joke; oh, wait....it was.


25 posted on 10/16/2009 4:41:21 PM PDT by Loud Mime (The time to water the tree of liberty approaches......)
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To: pinochet
It's not only libel. It's Tortious Interference.

"Tortious interference with business relationships occurs where the tortfeasor acts to prevent the plaintiff from successfully establishing or maintaining business relationships."

And there is no "public figure" higher standard.

26 posted on 10/16/2009 4:41:41 PM PDT by The Free Engineer
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To: RummyChick

>>Did CNN air it in England? They have some tough defamation laws<<

But Britain is a leftist country, where they are not used to the hard-edged conservatism associated with American talk radio. Even the Tories in Britain would be uncofortable with American talk radio culture.


27 posted on 10/16/2009 4:43:42 PM PDT by pinochet
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To: pinochet

Absolutely.

Because this is a look at the future.

If they get away with Rush and they think this gives them a license, what will they do to the rest of us who who not have Rush’s resources?

Imagine that you are a general about to retire and you know Obummer, the Marxist now posing as a Fascist, is about to make a major mistake and you point it out....

Do you think they will let you get to retirement? Or will you get the Rush treatment.

Imagine you are a small town TV nightly news reporter and you uncover some great truth....

The Rush treatment right out the door...fired.

Look what they are already trying to do to Glenn Beck.

TV station owners are vulnerable.

It must be stopped.

Sue the shirt off their backs.


28 posted on 10/16/2009 4:45:26 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: pinochet
Should Rush sue the bastards?

Yes.

Does he have a chance of winning a libel suit

Maybe.

even if his opponents dump a ton of dirt on him during the trial?

If they do that during trial they'd cook their own goose .. after all, wouldn't the trial be about how they 'dropped a ton of dirt' on Rush in the first place?

Otherwise, if he does decide to sue (and wins), the award shouldn't be a monetary one because that would only ramp up cynicism. No, the 'award' should sentence the defendant's to broadcast a full and comprehensive apology on their own networks -- in prime time -- on their respective networks - for three full hours - with full disclosure of their biased shenanagins as found within the trial. If they fail to do so then the sentencing Judge can and will impose a large cash award for contempt of court.

29 posted on 10/16/2009 4:45:43 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: pinochet

Rush is a public figure....he would have to prove “malice” which would be virtually impossible to do.


30 posted on 10/16/2009 4:46:26 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: pinochet
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31 posted on 10/16/2009 4:46:27 PM PDT by blueyon (It is worth taking a stand even if you are standing alone!)
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To: pinochet

I hope he sues them. If he doesn’t, their journalistic malpractice will be forgotten and they’ll continue to do it.


32 posted on 10/16/2009 4:47:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: pinochet

If he sues, particularly if there are multiple suits, he might get so tied up in the legal system that he doesn’t have enough time for other things. If he’s taken out of play, his adversaries still win the game, even if he wins the suits.


33 posted on 10/16/2009 4:47:47 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Carley

He must sue the source of the material published in Wiki.
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I think that’s a great start. Levin mentioned this on his show just a few minutes ago about the ‘suspect’....tied into the IP from the law firm who also smeared him, Rush, and Palin. There is a person who goes by the moniker ‘Wiki Investigator’ who is a computer expert who’s handling this. May even be a FReeper!


34 posted on 10/16/2009 4:51:27 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ($$$$$OBAMA MONEY!!!$$$$$ /s)
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To: pinochet

He should negotiate for a minimum of 5 minutes on each network that reported these lies as facts.

He should point out that any REPUTABLE journalist or news organization could have found out in 10 minutes of research that the quotes could not be traced to him.

He should point out that he was a national figure in 1998 and that if he actually said those things about slavery he would have lost his show right then and there. His shows have been monitored every day and since they could NEVER prove that he’s a racist, they decided to knowingly slander and libel him.


35 posted on 10/16/2009 4:51:51 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Hildy

Making up quotes that somebody is racist is malice.


36 posted on 10/16/2009 4:51:55 PM PDT by omega4179 ( I hope he fails.)
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To: pinochet

YES YES AND YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


37 posted on 10/16/2009 4:53:07 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: sausageseller

PATTERSON, BELKNAPP, WEBB & TYLER


38 posted on 10/16/2009 4:54:21 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Drango
Rush is a public figure....he would have to prove “malice” which would be virtually impossible to do.

Rush is a public figure, yes. He was slandered, yes. The 'malice' comes in because that slander was used to prevent him from engaging in a business deal of which he was wholly qualified for, but was derailed due to the slander.

That seems like 'slander with intent to malice' to me

39 posted on 10/16/2009 4:59:13 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: pinochet; Liz; AT7Saluki; writer33
Should Rush Sue CNN and the Rest of the Liberal Media For Libel?

His investment would've potentially returned, what, $300 million - or more? Suing for that amount could put the leftists like Sharpton and Jackson out of business for a good, long while.

40 posted on 10/16/2009 5:00:06 PM PDT by Libloather (Tea Totaler, PROUD Birther, Mobster, Pro-lifer, Anti-warmer)
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>>I’d like to see Rush take them (anyone) for millions, and then give that money to Sarah Palin.<<

Haha, I love it! Poetic justice.


41 posted on 10/16/2009 5:00:14 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Just how much money does Michael Moore hope to make with his anti-capitalism movie?)
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To: pinochet

“But Britain is a leftist country, where they are not used to the hard-edged conservatism associated with American talk radio. Even the Tories in Britain would be uncofortable with American talk radio culture.”

Brits are the great talkers.Watch the House of Commons on Cspan.

Wit and sarcasm, too. And the rule of law.

Where do you think our Founding Fathers got their ideas? Kenya?


42 posted on 10/16/2009 5:00:37 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: pinochet
"Should Rush sue the bastards? Does he have a chance of winning a libel suit, even if his opponents dump a ton of dirt on him during the trial?"

Are you kidding?

You KNOW what the Jury composition will be, don't you?

And you KNOW what a propoganda campaign the State-Run-Media will continue on him, right?

43 posted on 10/16/2009 5:03:48 PM PDT by traditional1 ("don't gots to worry 'bout no mo'gage. Don't gots to buy no gas...Obama, he gonna take care o' me")
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To: sausageseller

The ip address came from a law firm with professional sports ties. Check American Thinker today


44 posted on 10/16/2009 5:04:13 PM PDT by Sandy01
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To: omega4179

That’s what I meant..I worded it wrong! I meant, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT TO THE MEDIA!!!


45 posted on 10/16/2009 5:21:12 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: pinochet

I think he has no chance of suing for libel. It’s a very high standard, even higher for ‘public figures’ which he certainly is.

I would suggest he sue the NY Law Firm employees who created the fake quotes and loaded them into WikiQuotes and WikiPedia.

This is the source of the worst of the libel. I think this is a MUCH stronger case, and will do more for the movement. It is the anonymous libtard liars creating fake facts in safety that is one of our worst problems.


46 posted on 10/16/2009 5:21:46 PM PDT by Jack Black
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Sounded this am like they had traced the Wiki posts to their source — some law firm in NYC that is representing the NFL players, I think. I like it.


47 posted on 10/16/2009 5:34:06 PM PDT by bboop (Tar and feathers -- good back then, good now)
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To: sausageseller

Patterson, Bellnap, Webb & Tyler, big NYC firm. Members include or included Rudy Giuliani, former NYC prosecutor Morgtnthau and Ed Cox, husband of Tricia Nixon. They recently (9/21/09) started a sports industry group within the firm headed by former NJ AG.

The Wiki ‘quotes’ attributed to Rush were entered by someone using that firm’s ip address. It is in the firm’s interest to investigate and find out just who did it.


48 posted on 10/16/2009 5:37:20 PM PDT by EDINVA (Obama CAN'T see the Olympics from his back porch !)
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To: pinochet

Yes he should. He should figure out what being a partial owner for 25 years would’ve earned him double it and make them all pay dearly. I’m not a big avocate of sueing but the way they viciously went after him with lies they all deserve being hurt badly finanically!


49 posted on 10/16/2009 5:38:14 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Carley
“He must sue the source of the material published in Wiki.”

Are you sure about that? I think the media is responsible for ensuring the stuff they say, and I’ve yet to see Wiki used or promoted as a credible source. I think if CNN made the case that they use Wiki as a common source they might have an argument (even though I still think it wouldn’t work), but with Wiki’s well known horrible reputation for credibility it would be pretty easy to demonstrate that CNN and others took the opportunity to make the statements with the intent of damaging Rush, and ignored their obligation to source their statements because they had a desire to promote those statements as true.

50 posted on 10/16/2009 5:57:41 PM PDT by RavenATB
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