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Youtube ^ | October 14, 1009 | Lord Christopher Monckton

Posted on 10/16/2009 6:02:59 PM PDT by opentalk

On October 14, Lord Christopher Monckton, a noted climate change expert, gave a presentation at Bethel College in St. Paul, MN in which he issued a dire warning regarding the United Nations Climate Change Treaty which is scheduled to be signed in Copenhagen in December 2009. ..

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1 posted on 10/16/2009 6:02:59 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Keynote speaker Lord Christopher Monckton is former science adviser to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.


2 posted on 10/16/2009 6:07:06 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

That’s okay....whatever The Messiah signs will be invalidated when his non-Natural Born status is revealed (once the Public takes back the government from the Communists now running it)


3 posted on 10/16/2009 6:22:57 PM PDT by traditional1 ("don't gots to worry 'bout no mo'gage. Don't gots to buy no gas...Obama, he gonna take care o' me")
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To: traditional1
Q&A from speech:(may not be that easy)

Besides, once he’s signed that treaty, whether or not he signed it validly, once he’s signed it and ratified it – your Senate ratifies it – you’re bound by it. But I will say one thing; they know, in the White House, that they won’t be able to get the 67 votes in the Senate, the two-thirds majority that your Constitution has stipulated must be achieved in order to ratify a treaty of this kind. However, what they’ve worked out is this – and they actually let it slip during the election campaign, which is how I know about it. They plan to enact that Copenhagen treaty into legislation by a simple majority of both houses. That they can do. But the virtue of that – and here you have a point – is that is, thank God, reversible. So I want you to pray tonight, and pray hard for your Senate that they utterly refuse to ratify the [new] Treaty of Copenhagen, because if they refuse to ratify it and [Obama] has to push it through as domestic legislation, you can repeal it. link>

4 posted on 10/16/2009 6:28:23 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: traditional1

That’s what I’m praying for.


5 posted on 10/16/2009 6:29:45 PM PDT by mcshot (It's WE THE PEOPLE not the socialist Marxist commies and career politicians.)
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To: opentalk
So, what you're saying essentially that once a Treaty is signed, the USA cannot repeal/refuse/abrogate it EVER?

That doesn't make sense, as a mistake cannot be undone?

6 posted on 10/16/2009 6:31:55 PM PDT by traditional1 ("don't gots to worry 'bout no mo'gage. Don't gots to buy no gas...Obama, he gonna take care o' me")
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To: opentalk

First the treaty, then the science!


7 posted on 10/16/2009 6:31:56 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: traditional1
I am just going from the article in the link. He says the key is if it is ratified by the senate, which requires 2/3 vote. (67)
8 posted on 10/16/2009 6:38:01 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: traditional1
So I want you to pray tonight, and pray hard for your Senate that they utterly refuse to ratify the [new] Treaty of Copenhagen, because if they refuse to ratify it and [Obama] has to push it through as domestic legislation, you can repeal it

I hope this gets exposure.

9 posted on 10/16/2009 6:43:04 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

I’m sure Republicans will help the President get this treaty any way they can. :)


10 posted on 10/16/2009 6:54:11 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: opentalk

all....I’ve sent this to Drudge. Please spread this to other contacts. PLEASE.


11 posted on 10/16/2009 7:00:19 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ($$$$$OBAMA MONEY!!!$$$$$ /s)
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To: opentalk

Dear God. Help us all.


12 posted on 10/16/2009 7:25:06 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: opentalk
Besides, once he’s signed that treaty, whether or not he signed it validly, once he’s signed it and ratified it – your Senate ratifies it – you’re bound by it.

Oh? I'm Not too sure that a few million armed American Patriots would agree with that statement!

13 posted on 10/16/2009 8:16:35 PM PDT by plinyelder
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To: opentalk

bump for later.


14 posted on 10/16/2009 8:34:04 PM PDT by khnyny (Too much power in too few hands is always a bad idea.)
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To: opentalk

look around you....how many UN flags are you starting to see at national parks/landmarks? just sayin....


15 posted on 10/16/2009 9:14:18 PM PDT by blueplum
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“Obama Poised to Cede US Sovereignty, Claims British Lord”

http://fightinwordsusa.wordpress.com/2009/10/15/obama-poised-to-cede-us-soverignty-claims-british-lord/


16 posted on 10/16/2009 9:17:48 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; April Lexington; ...

~~MUST MUST see .. dear God .. could this
be true ? Could they be this certifiable?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMe5dOgbu40&feature=player_embedded#

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On October 14, Lord Christopher Monckton, a noted climate change skeptic, gave a presentation at Bethel University in St. Paul, MN.

In this 4 minute excerpt from his speech, he issues a dire warning to all Americans regarding the United Nations Climate Change Treaty, scheduled to be signed in Copenhagen in December 2009.

Lord Monckton served as a policy adviser to Margaret Thatcher. He has repeatedly challenged Al Gore to a debate to which Gore has refused. Monckton sued to stop Gore’s film “An Inconvenient Truth” from being shown in British schools due to its inaccuracies.

The judge found in-favor of Monckton, ordering 9 serious errors in the film to be corrected. Lord Monckton travels internationally in an attempt to educating the public about the myth of global warming.

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Flashback April 2009: Democrats Refuse to Allow Skeptic to Testify Alongside Gore At Congressional Hearing

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‘House Democrats don’t want Gore humiliated’

Climate Depot Exclusive - Updated

Excerpt:

Washington, DC — UK’s Lord Christopher Monckton, a former science advisor to Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, claimed House Democrats have refused to allow him to appear alongside former Vice President Al Gore at a high profile global warming hearing on Friday April 24, 2009 at 10am in Washington.

Monckton told Climate Depot that the Democrats rescinded his scheduled joint appearance at the House Energy and Commerce hearing on Friday. Monckton said he was informed that he would not be allowed to testify alongside Gore when his plane landed from England Thursday afternoon.

“The House Democrats don’t want Gore humiliated, so they slammed the door of the Capitol in my face,” Monckton told Climate Depot in an exclusive interview. “They are cowards.”

http://www.climatedepot.com/a/429/Report-Democrats-Refuse-to-Allow-Skeptic-to-Testify-Alongside-Gore-At-Congressional-Hearing

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Remembering our beginnings:

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Declaration of the Causes
and Necessity of taking up Arms
July 6, 1775

http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/revolution/causes.htm


17 posted on 10/16/2009 11:58:42 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: opentalk; Yadanuiat; Walter Scott Hudson; Texas Fossil

related threads:

Obama Poised to Cede US Sovereignty, Claims British Lord
Fightin Words ^ | October 15, 2009 | Walter Scott Hudson
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2363537/posts

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Obama Poised to Cede US Sovereignty, Claims British Lord
Wordpress Fighting Words Blog ^ | 15 OCT 2009 | Walter @ Fightin’ Words
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2362929/posts

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Post #14 - Argument to the Contrary- “Treaties Do Not Supersede the Constitution”

http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/staterights/treaties.htm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2362929/posts?page=14#14
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18 posted on 10/17/2009 12:28:56 AM PDT by thouworm
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To: STARWISE

I saw this myself a little while ago. It makes me SICK.

Obama MUST be stopped. This Obamanation must stop now.


19 posted on 10/17/2009 12:32:46 AM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: opentalk

Cede the U. S. A. to the U. N.???

No way!


20 posted on 10/17/2009 12:40:15 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Cindy; Salvation; All

Transcript of Lord Monckton’s speech

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Here were Monckton’s closing remarks, as dictated from my audio recording:

At [the 2009 United Nations Climate Change Conference in] Copenhagen, this December, weeks away, a treaty will be signed. Your president will sign it. Most of the third world countries will sign it, because they think they’re going to get money out of it. Most of the left-wing regime from the European Union will rubber stamp it. Virtually nobody won’t sign it.

I read that treaty. And what it says is this, that a world government is going to be created. The word “government” actually appears as the first of three purposes of the new entity. The second purpose is the transfer of wealth from the countries of the West to third world countries, in satisfacation of what is called, coyly, “climate debt” – because we’ve been burning CO2 and they haven’t.

We’ve been screwing up the climate and they haven’t. And the third purpose of this new entity, this government, is enforcement.

How many of you think that the word “election” or “democracy” or “vote” or “ballot” occurs anywhere in the 200 pages of that treaty? Quite right, it doesn’t appear once.

So, at last, the communists who piled out of the Berlin Wall and into the environmental movement, who took over Greenpeace so that my friends who funded it left within a year, because [the communists] captured it –

Now the apotheosis as at hand. They are about to impose a communist world government on the world. You have a president who has very strong sympathies with that point of view. He’s going to sign it. He’ll sign anything. He’s a Nobel Peace Prize [winner]; of course he’ll sign it.

[laughter]

And the trouble is this; if that treaty is signed, if your Constitution says that it takes precedence over your Constitution (sic), and you can’t resign from that treaty unless you get agreement from all the other state parties – And because you’ll be the biggest paying country, they’re not going to let you out of it.

So, thank you, America. You were the beacon of freedom to the world. It is a privilege merely to stand on this soil of freedom while it is still free. But, in the next few weeks, unless you stop it, your president will sign your freedom, your democracy, and your humanity away forever. And neither you nor any subsequent government you may elect will have any power whatsoever to take it back.

That is how serious it is. I’ve read the treaty. I’ve seen this stuff about [world] government and climate debt and enforcement. They are going to do this to you whether you like it or not.

But I think it is here, here in your great nation, which I so love and I so admire – it is here that perhaps, at this eleventh hour, at the fifty-ninth minute and fifty-ninth second, you will rise up and you will stop your president from signing that dreadful treaty, that purposeless treaty.

For there is no problem with climate and, even if there were, an economic treaty does nothing to [help] it.

So I end by saying to you the words that Winston Churchill addressed to your president in the darkest hour before the dawn of freedom in the Second World War. He quoted from your great poet Longfellow:

Sail on, O Ship of State!
Sail on, O Union, strong and great!
Humanity with all its fears,
With all the hopes of future years,
Is hanging breathless on thy fate!

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/16/obama-poised-to-cede-us-sovereignty-in-copenhagen-claims-british-lord-monckton/


21 posted on 10/17/2009 12:59:28 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: STARWISE

Thank you Starwise for the ping.


22 posted on 10/17/2009 1:08:12 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: All

Note: The following text is a quote:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/President-Obama-Announces-Launch-of-the-Major-Economies-Forum-on-Energy-and-Climate/

THE BRIEFING ROOM

THE WHITE HOUSE

Office of the Press Secretary

_____________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release March 28, 2009

President Obama Announces Launch of the Major Economies Forum on Energy and Climate

The President is pleased to announce today the launch of the Major Economies Forum on Energy and Climate.

The Major Economies Forum will facilitate a candid dialogue among key developed and developing countries, help generate the political leadership necessary to achieve a successful outcome at the UN climate change negotiations that will convene this December in Copenhagen, and advance the exploration of concrete initiatives and joint ventures that increase the supply of clean energy while cutting greenhouse gas emissions.

President Obama has invited the leaders of 16 major economies and the Secretary General of the United Nations to designate representatives to participate in a preparatory session at the Department of State on April 27-28 in Washington, D.C. The preparatory sessions will culminate in a Major Economies Forum Leaders’ meeting, which Prime Minister Berlusconi has agreed to host in La Maddalena, Italy, in July 2009.

The 17 major economies are: Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, the European Union, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Italy, Japan, Korea, Mexico, Russia, South Africa, the United Kingdom, and the United States. Denmark, in its capacity as the President of the December 2009 Conference of the Parties to the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, and the United Nations have also been invited to participate in this dialogue.


23 posted on 10/17/2009 1:13:20 AM PDT by Cindy
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SNIPPET - Quote:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Fact-Sheet-US-Mexico-Discuss-New-Approach-to-Bilateral-Relationship/

THE BRIEFING ROOM

THE WHITE HOUSE

Office of the Press Secretary
________________________________________________________________________
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE April 16, 2009

“FACT SHEET: US-Mexico Discuss New Approach to Bilateral Relationship”

SNIPPET: “Bilateral Framework on Clean Energy and Climate Change. Building on the President’s January 2009 conversation with President Calderon, the United States and Mexico agree to launch a Bilateral Framework on Clean Energy and Climate Change. This framework will enhance our cooperation on clean energy and climate by establishing a formal mechanism for collaboration and information exchange and demonstrates high-level support for joint efforts to achieve clean energy economies. The Framework reinforces our work in the Major Economies Forum for Energy and Climate and the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, as well as complements the Energy and Climate Partnership for the Americas, which will be announced in coming days at the Summit of the Americas.”


24 posted on 10/17/2009 1:16:51 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Danae; All

Lord Monckton took questions after his speech:

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Lord Monckton received a standing ovation and took a series of questions from members of the audience. Among those questions were these relevent to the forthcoming Copenhagen treaty:

Question: The current administration and the Democratic majority in Congress has shown little regard for the will of the people.

They’re trying to pass a serious government agenda, and serious taxation and burdens on future generations. And there seems to be little to stop them. How do you propose we stop Obama from doing this, because I see no way to stop him from signing anything in Copenhagen. I believe that’s his agenda and he’ll do it.

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I don’t minimize the difficulty. But on this subject – I don’t really do politics, because it’s not right. In the end, your politics is for you. The correct procedure is for you to get onto your representatives, both in the US Senate where the bill has yet to go through (you can try and stop that) and in [the House], and get them to demand their right of audience (which they all have) with the president and tell him about this treaty.

There are many very powerful people in this room, wealthy people, influential people. Get onto the media, tell them about this treaty. If they go to www.wattsupwiththat.com, they will find (if they look carefully enough) a copy of that treaty, because I arranged for it to be posted there not so long ago.

Let them read it, and let the press tell the people that their democracy is about to be taken away for no good purpose, at least [with] no scientific basis [in reference to climate change]. Tell the press to say this. Tell the press to say that, even if there is a problem [with climate change], you don’t want your democracy taken away. It really is as simple as that.

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Question: Is it really irrevocable if that treaty is signed? Suppose it’s signed by someone who does not have the authority, as I – I have some, a high degree of skepticism that we do have a valid president there because I -

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I know at least one judge who shares your opinion, sir, yes.

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I don’t believe it until I see it. … Would [Obama’s potential illegitimacy as president] give us a reasonable cause to nullify whatever treaty that he does sign as president?

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I would be very careful not to rely on things like that. Although there is a certain amount of doubt whether or not he was born in Hawaii, my fear is it would be very difficult to prove he wasn’t born in Hawaii and therefore we might not be able to get anywhere with that.

Besides, once he’s signed that treaty, whether or not he signed it validly, once he’s signed it and ratified it – your Senate ratifies it – you’re bound by it.

But I will say one thing; they know, in the White House, that they won’t be able to get the 67 votes in the Senate, the two-thirds majority that your Constitution has stipulated must be achieved in order to ratify a treaty of this kind.

However, what they’ve worked out is this – and they actually let it slip during the election campaign, which is how I know about it. They plan to enact that Copenhagen treaty into legislation by a simple majority of both houses. That they can do. But the virtue of that – and here you have a point – is that is, thank God, reversible.

So I want you to pray tonight, and pray hard for your Senate that they utterly refuse to ratify the [new] Treaty of Copenhagen, because if they refuse to ratify it and [Obama] has to push it through as domestic legislation, you can repeal it.

http://britanniaradio.blogspot.com/2009/10/obama-poised-to-cede-us-sovereignty.html
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“EU’s Lisbon Treaty Means Dictatorship”

by Lord Christopher Monckton

http://www.ukcolumn.org/2008/04/22/the-eu-dictatorship/

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Lisbon Treaty: Europe’s Slow-Moving Coup d’État

http://britanniaradio.blogspot.com/2009/10/lisbon-treaty-europes-slow-moving-coup_11.html#links

Excerpt:

Moreover, the Lisbon Treaty obligates EU nations to surrender their sovereignty in many areas to centralized decision-making; and it reduces national veto rights to allow more decisions to be made by majority voting instead of by unanimous consent.

The Lisbon Treaty is the stunning culmination of more than 50 years of European economic and political integration, a process that has resulted in the systematic erosion of democracy and democratic accountability in Europe.

_________________________________________________________

Coincidence .. that the Lisbon Treaty for the EU was pressed so urgently .. intense pressure being applied in the last couple of months on Ireland, Poland to sign? I believe the Czech Republic is the only holdout.

Yes .. they are

***The Czech Republic’s Klaus Continues to Defy E.U. on Treaty

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1930816,00.html

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The world has truly gone mad. God save us.


25 posted on 10/17/2009 1:18:30 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: All

Note: The following text is a quote:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Clean-Energy-Economy-Fact-Sheet/

THE BRIEFING ROOM

THE WHITE HOUSE

Office of the Press Secrectary
April 22, 2009
FACT SHEET: President Obama Highlights Vision for Clean Energy Economy

Underscores Urgent Need to Pass Comprehensive Legislation

WASHINGTON, D.C. – President Obama traveled to Newton, Iowa today to visit Trinity Structural Towers, the former Maytag appliance factory that now houses a green manufacturing facility, which produces towers for wind energy production and employs dozens of former Maytag employees.

Marking Earth Day, President Obama reaffirmed his commitment to a comprehensive energy plan that lessens our dependence on foreign oil, creates jobs and helps win the race toward clean energy technology. With the depletion of the world’s oil reserves and the growing disruption of our climate, the development of clean, renewable sources of energy is the growth industry of the 21st century.

“The choice we face is not between saving our environment and saving our economy – it’s a choice between prosperity and decline,” President Obama said. “The nation that leads the world in creating new sources of clean energy will be the nation that leads the 21st century global economy.”

The President’s energy policy will jump-start the creation of an American Clean Energy sector that will create millions of clean energy jobs. The President underscored how jobs at Trinity are examples of the opportunities this sector will create for workers not just in the factories that manufacture wind turbines, but also across the economy, for workers who weatherize our homes and research new technologies.

Today, President Obama unveiled a program to develop the renewable energy projects on the waters of our Outer Continental Shelf that produce electricity from wind, wave, and ocean currents. These regulations will enable, for the first time ever, the nation to tap into our ocean’s vast sustainable resources to generate clean energy in an environmentally sound and safe manner.

President Obama will pursue comprehensive legislation to move toward energy independence and prevent the worst consequences of climate change – while creating the incentives to make clean energy the profitable kind of energy in America.

To take this country in the right direction, Congress must pass comprehensive legislation to protect our nation from the serious economic and strategic risks associated with our reliance on foreign oil and the destabilizing effects of a changing climate. Policies to advance energy and climate security should promote economic recovery efforts, accelerate job creation, and drive clean energy manufacturing by:

Creating new Jobs in the Clean Energy Economy. Drive the development of new, green manufacturing opportunities in the rebuilding, retrofitting and modernizing of our nation’s factories.

Promoting U.S. Competitiveness. Ensure a level playing field for domestic manufacturing and secure significant actions to combat climate change by our trading partners.

Investing in the Next Generation of Energy Technologies. Invest $150 billion over ten years in energy research and development to transition to a clean energy economy.

Breaking Dependence on Oil. Promote the development of the next generation of cars and trucks and the fuels they run on.

Producing More Energy at Home. Enhance U.S. energy supplies through responsible development of domestic renewable energy, fossil fuels, advanced biofuels and nuclear energy.

Promoting Energy Efficiency. Promote investments that secure the biggest bang for the buck in reducing energy bills in the transportation, electricity, industrial, building and agricultural sectors.

Closing the Carbon Pollution Loophole. Develop an economy-wide emissions reduction program to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and secure the greatest benefits at the lowest cost for families and businesses.
Protecting American Consumers. Revenues generated by closing the carbon loophole will be returned to the people, especially vulnerable families, communities, and businesses.


26 posted on 10/17/2009 1:19:18 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy; Danae; All

Urban Training Center in Indiana needs actors ~ Oct. 13, 2009

http://www.examiner.com/x-8151-Charleston-Military-Community-Examiner~y2009m10d13-Urban-Training-Center-in-Indiana-needs-actors

So you think you can act?

The Muscatatuck Urban Training Center near Butlerville, Indiana is looking for a few good actors. Hosting a training exercise next month, the facility needs actors (role players) for onsite civilian training.

The simulated training exercises will help train civilian provincial recovery teams (PRT) for future deployments to the Mid East.

Applications are being accepted for exercises that will take place November 5th through November 11th. No experience is necessary for the acting positions.

Due to the secure nature of the facility, all applicants must be able to pass a background check and be physically able to “practice” in all types of weather for what could be 12-hour days.

The Muscatatuck Urban Training Center is a 1000 acre compound located in Jennings County and was formerly a state mental hospital that provided residential housing for developmentally disabled youths.

In 2004-2005, the entire facility was transitioned into an urban training center for military, governmental, public and private agencies.

Valbin Corporation is the hiring agency for these simulation exercises and can be reached at 301.986.8008 or jobs@valbin.org.

For videos and more information on MUTC and the types of training exercises carried out there, please log onto:

http://www.mutc.in.ng.mil/PUBLICAFFAIRS/Videos/tabid/92/Default.aspx.

_________________________________________________________

MILITARY EXERCISE IN SOUTHERN INDIANA AND NORTHERN KENTUCKY

http://kynationalguard.blogspot.com/2009/09/marines-conducting-exercise-in-ky.html

Notice to Residents

From Sept 24 to Oct 7, the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit, the landing force for the Norfolk-based Nassau Expeditionary Strike Group, will conduct a military exercise in southern Indiana at Camp Atterbury and the surrounding communities, as well as parts of northern Kentucky in the vicinity of Frankfort and Peak Mills.

The Realistic Urban Training exercise, or RUT, is a standard part of a MEU’s pre-deployment training program.

The 24th MEU, based at Camp Lejeune, N.C., is scheduled to deploy in a few months and this exercise is essential in preparing the unit’s Marines and Sailors to operate in an urban area.

What kind of training will the Marines be conducting?

The primary focus for the Marines will be to hone their skills in conducting patrols, operating vehicle checkpoints, reacting to ambushes, and countering the threat posed by improvised explosive devices, among a variety of other skill sets associated with operating in an urban environment.

The Marines’ activity in the communities will center on what are called situational training exercises - a variety of mock missions aimed at replicating the types of missions they might face during their upcoming deployment. In much the same way they would while deployed, the Marines will plan the missions in detail, and then execute them in approved, pre-designated locations.

Where will the training take place?

The Marines will be operating in a number of cities and towns throughout southern Indiana and northern Kentucky including Camp Atterbury, Muscatatuck Urban Training Center, Hoosier National Forest, Columbus and Seymour, Indiana, and Frankfort and Peak Mills, Kentucky. Military vehicles and helicopters will transport personnel and equipment between these locations.

While most of the activity will take place aboard the military bases, residents in certain communities can expect to see military vehicles and helicopters moving from one location to another. Residents living in close proximity to a select few sites will be notified in advance that Marines will be conducting simulated raids nearby.

What impact will the training have on area residents?

Many residents will certainly notice more uniformed Marines than they’re accustomed to seeing, and many will notice military vehicles and helicopters operating in the area. The Marines will be living aboard Camp Atterbury, and most of the activity off base will be concentrated in a relatively small number of designated areas.

Where some raids take place, locals may notice role players dressed in Middle Eastern clothing carrying fake, rubber weapons. The impact of the training on most of the community will be minimal.

How much extra noise should residents expect during the exercise?

If residents notice an increase in noise, it will likely come from the helicopters. We have worked closely with the FAA to establish flight paths that minimize, to the greatest extent possible, the impact on area residents.

Still, we know the noise can be a nuisance, and we ask for your patience while we complete this critical training.

For more information, please visit the 24th MEU Web site at http://www.marines.mil/unit/24thmeu or call the RUT information hotline at 877-676-0396.


27 posted on 10/17/2009 1:32:30 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: STARWISE

I found the treaty


28 posted on 10/17/2009 1:35:41 AM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Danae; Cindy; All

Looks like sovereignty is a thing of the past .. beyond belief.

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Two days of ‘hot’ skies overhead?
By Michael Daniels
Oct. 17, 2009

http://www.bethelcitizen.com/story.php?storyid=6746

*snip*

A three-day homeland defense exercise, “Falcon Dart” was announced last week by the Massachusetts Air National Guard, and will include F-15 “Eagle” aircraft from Barnes Air National Guard Base in Westfield, intercepting CAP aircraft “in proximity to the Condor Military Operating Area in Maine.”

Other Falcon Dart activities are planned off the eastern seacoast and elsewhere in New England.

In a release announcing the exercise, the ANG wrote: “Communities in New England may experience an increase in fighter jet and Army/DOD helicopter activity as they support this exercise.”

And residents underneath the activity are urged not to be alarmed if what they see appears unusual.

“We didn’t want to startle people if they see things that are not common for that area,” Capt. Matt Mutti, public affairs officer for the 104th Fighter Wing, based at Barnes, told The Citizen

In the Bethel area, residents are no strangers to such activity — since the Condor MOA lies right over our heads (chart).

And also overlying much of the area is low-level training route (VR840), which channels much of the military air traffic into Condor.

Military aircraft operating in Condor (under current rules, which the ANG hopes to change) must remain at an altitude of 7,000 feet (above mean sea level) or more.

But on VR840 they can be as low as 100 feet above the ground.

And while air traffic in Condor is spread out over more than 4,000 square miles, traffic on VR840 is concentrated in a 6.9-mile wide corridor.

Presumably that means that much of the Falcon Dart action “in the proximity of” Condor may be passing over the Bethel area.

Last week’s announcement provided few details regarding the exercises (and efforts by The Citizen to obtain more detail were unsuccessful).

On Wednesday, however, a follow-up release was issued.

It noted that day-one (Wednesday) activities were being conducted primarily along the eastern seacoast, and it offered the following description of activities planned for the following two days:

“On days two and three of the exercise, Air Force C-21s (military version of the Lear Jet 35A business jet) and Civil Air Patrol fixed-wing aircraft will simulate tracks of interest in the Ashland, N.H., area. F-15s from Barnes ANGB, along with fixed and rotary-wing aircraft from U.S. Customs and Border Protection will be launched to intercept the TOIs.”

Ashland N.H, is in the middle of the state, southwest of Bethel. It lies under the Yankee One MOA, but neither of the ANG releases mentions Yankee. As noted above, however, the first release does specifically refer to Condor.

VR840 status online

Residents who wish to learn if the military aircraft plan to use any “special use airspace” (e.g., Condor or VR840) in a given period of time can find such information on the Federal Aviation Administration website.

In the case of VR840, go to http://sua.faa.gov/sua/Welcome.do.

Click the light-blue “SUA List” tab.

Then go to the dropdown under “Type” and click “VR.”

If the route is scheduled for use, it will be listed, along with the beginning and end times.

(Note: the listed times are Zulu, or Greenwich Mean Time, which is four hours later than Eastern Standard Time, but five hours later than Daylight Savings Time. For example, 21:00 Zulu would currently be 16:00 local time, or 4 p.m.)

Star show

The Citizen’s initial communications with Capt. Mutti did turn up a bit of information that will be of interest to at least a segment of our readership.

Capt. Mutti said plans call for Trace Gallagher of FOX News to ride shotgun in one of the Falcon Dart F15s.


29 posted on 10/17/2009 1:43:20 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: freekitty; All

People will continue to be in denial as to the reality of the NWO....even when its stuff is right in our faces.

America is being destroyed just as Israel was. (right before our eyes)

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. Hosea 4:6


30 posted on 10/17/2009 1:47:26 AM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Cindy; Velveeta; Danae; All

SWAT/Homeland Security exercises:

http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&cf=all&ncl=d_K0f6QP33ew93MSiiJnXMYHhauOM

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October 16, 2009
US Homeland Security center in W.Va. to expand

http://wvgazette.com/ap/ApTopStories/200910160620

U.S. Sen. Robert C. Byrd says the Department of Homeland Security has awarded a contract to begin planning for the expansion of a Harpers Ferry training center.

The $2.75 million contract calls for Dunbar-based BrooAlexa Design Joint Venture to begin the initial planning and development for new dormitories at the U.S. Customs and Border Protection training facility.

Byrd says expanding the dormitories will allow the center to expand its course load and allow for increased joint-agency exercises.

The center trains and certifies federal officials who train border patrol officers.

The center is located on 104 acres near Harpers Ferry National Historical Park.

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Awful lot of drills and training happening.


31 posted on 10/17/2009 1:48:08 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: STARWISE

Training is good.
Preparation for emergencies is good.
Having an emergency plan is good.

Thanks for the links, Starwise.


32 posted on 10/17/2009 1:49:17 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: alisasny; bc2; Black Agnes; BobFromNJ; Cacique; catfur; Clemenza; Coleus; Computer Tech; copycat; ..

Please watch video everyone. (Taking the Tri-State ping list out of mothballs for this very important warning)


33 posted on 10/17/2009 1:51:49 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Cindy

I agree wholeheartedly ... I’m looking
at the prospect of urban/civil defense
training to meet the revolt of Americans
if 0 agrees to this outrageous climate
treaty with the EU countries in December,
and our sovereignty is anywhere near put
at risk.

Terrifying times.


34 posted on 10/17/2009 1:56:07 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: Cindy

Enjoy the Kool-aid while you can.

HS is not one of us.


35 posted on 10/17/2009 1:59:06 AM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: STARWISE

TREATY IS POSTED HERE: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2364493/posts


36 posted on 10/17/2009 2:01:08 AM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: STARWISE

BTTT


37 posted on 10/17/2009 3:01:36 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: STARWISE
I read about the suggestion that this was coming a couple of months ago: making the Earth a one world nation. The constitution of this One World Nation would supersede our Constitution (don't understand how that can happen, though). This is one of Soros’ aims, and we are almost there.

How can we stop this? Petitions, calls, faxes, million plus people marching on Washington don't seem to faze them. They do what they want. They are pushing all this socialistic agenda at us so fast, because they *know* that they may not be reelected in 2010. This implies to me that they *know* that they, OUR representatives, are not voting as we, their bosses, would want them to. They are following another agenda besides being our voice and representative in Washington. Whose or What agenda is that? Soros’??? Has he corrupted that many in Washington?

Again, how do we stop this?

38 posted on 10/17/2009 3:59:10 AM PDT by Humal
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To: STARWISE
He has repeatedly challenged Al Gore to a debate to which Gore has refused. Monckton sued to stop Gore’s film “An Inconvenient Truth” from being shown in British schools due to its inaccuracies.

Thanks for the background information. It looks like they have an agenda and want to ram it through. Thank God for the Internet, we need to protect that too!

39 posted on 10/17/2009 4:25:31 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Cindy
It is starting to make sense why Obama demanded to chair recent UN meeting.
40 posted on 10/17/2009 4:29:53 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: STARWISE
“EU’s Lisbon Treaty Means Dictatorship”

Interesting, this is a global movement. It helps explain the Nobel Peace prize, also why Obama's background has remained hidden. This is a very powerful group.

41 posted on 10/17/2009 4:40:33 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: STARWISE

Good help us


42 posted on 10/17/2009 4:52:54 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: opentalk; enough_idiocy; Desdemona; rdl6989; Little Bill; IrishCatholic; Normandy; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

43 posted on 10/17/2009 4:54:01 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (Limit all U.S. politicians to two terms: One in office and one in prison!)
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To: traditional1

Don’t hold your breath.


44 posted on 10/17/2009 4:54:59 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Exactly....can’t speak to the truth, as it surely gets you labeled “bigot”, “racist”, etc.


45 posted on 10/17/2009 4:59:30 AM PDT by traditional1 ("don't gots to worry 'bout no mo'gage. Don't gots to buy no gas...Obama, he gonna take care o' me")
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To: Humal
"Again, how do we stop this?"

It's too late. Short of the military staging a coup, these power people OWN us...and getting re-elected doesn't matter. They WILL NOT leave, and if they do, they are replaced by MORE puppets....

Follow the money; that's what puts the puppets in the elections and pays their propoganda machine...a "man on the street" type candidate has ZERO chance of getting elected.

46 posted on 10/17/2009 5:03:54 AM PDT by traditional1 ("don't gots to worry 'bout no mo'gage. Don't gots to buy no gas...Obama, he gonna take care o' me")
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To: STARWISE; firebrand

Thanks for the ping. I am truly beside myself with worry but(perhaps foolishly) cling to the hope that reasoned Senators will seize on this and expose it for what it is. That should not preclude any of us from spreading the word to everyone we know urging they call their representatives.


47 posted on 10/17/2009 5:15:16 AM PDT by StarFan
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To: STARWISE
And the trouble is this; if that treaty is signed, if your Constitution says that it takes precedence over your Constitution (sic), and you can’t resign from that treaty unless you get agreement from all the other state parties – And because you’ll be the biggest paying country, they’re not going to let you out of it.

“Treaties Do Not Supersede the Constitution”

http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/staterights/treaties.htm

48 posted on 10/17/2009 6:07:08 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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To: STARWISE
Thanks for the ping, Star.

All I can say is Wow...just wow. No wonder he doesn't worry about troops or the economy, All he needs to do is sign this and go on date night.....no problem.....WASS! (We Are So Screwed)

49 posted on 10/17/2009 6:09:12 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (Palin 2012...YOU BETCHA!.)
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To: Honeybunch

Ping.


50 posted on 10/17/2009 6:15:34 AM PDT by OKSooner ("He's quite mad, you know." - Sean Connery to Honor Blackman in "Goldfinger".)
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