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Huckabee and Hoffman (Huck, Romney decline to support conservative candidate)
American Spectator ^ | 10-15-09

Posted on 10/17/2009 1:43:54 PM PDT by ellery

Fox News host, garage band cover guitarist, and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee will be making a long-planned speech before the New York Conservative Party in Syracuse, New York on October 28, but has thus far declined to say whether he will formally endorse or financially support Conservative Party House candidate Doug Hoffman, who is running to fill former Rep. John McHugh's 23rd Congressional District seat.

Most Republican Party leaders have thus far taken a pass in endorsing Hoffman, who has the support of the conservative Club for Growth, as well as the American Conservative Union. House minority leader John Boehner and his right hand man, Rep. Eric Cantor have refused to get in the middle of the race, while former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney have also declined to support Hoffman.

Huckabee had agreed to attend the dinner for the state party in upstate New York some time ago and is looking forward to using his speech to draw attention to Hoffman, according to a longtime Huckabee aide. But Huckabee has not decided whether to fully endorse Hoffman or just "say some nice things about him to boost his candidacy," says the source, adding, when asked how far Huckabee might go to support the conservative in the race, "We probably won't be going so far as to let him tap into our national fundraising network, if that's what you mean."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
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1 posted on 10/17/2009 1:43:54 PM PDT by ellery
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To: ellery

I suppose technically and eventually, Huck may pay lip service to the conservative candidate, but according to this article, his people say he won’t give Hoffman access to his fundraising networks. Meanwhile Romney has declined to support him altogether.

IMO, both Romney and Huck are sniveling opportunists who care only about returning to power hand-in-hand with the establishment GOP—regardless of the consequences for conservatism and the country.


2 posted on 10/17/2009 1:46:03 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: ellery

“conservative Club for Growth”

sounds like another corporate front trying to hijack conservatives.


3 posted on 10/17/2009 1:46:59 PM PDT by Tempest (I believe in the sanctity of life... As long as you can afford it.)
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To: ellery

I’m guessing Huck will support Hoffman. He’s supporting Rubio over the worthless Charlie Loafers


4 posted on 10/17/2009 1:47:39 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ellery
"Wilt thou lay down thy life for my sake? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, The cock shall not crow, till thou hast denied me thrice."

No more RINOS!!

5 posted on 10/17/2009 1:49:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: ellery

If ever there was a time for Sarah Palin to swoop in, it is now.

nature abhors a vacuum and we have a vacuum in conservatism.


6 posted on 10/17/2009 1:49:13 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Rush Hudson Limbaugh, Mmm Mmm Mmm)
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To: ellery
Meanwhile, R.S. McCain has a short blurb about the race on his website -- Conservative Doug Hoffman slams Scozzafava in guest-blog at Malkin -- which has this:
Trust me: Very Important People might make this The Mother Of All Showdowns with the RINO sellouts in the GOP Establishment. Lipstick, baby.
Wonder if he knows something about the 'Cuda's intentions in this race? He's buds with Lynn Vincent, Palin's book collaborator.
7 posted on 10/17/2009 1:53:19 PM PDT by Al B. (Sarah Palin: Government "can't make you happy or healthy or wealthy or wise".)
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To: ellery

Background: In a nutshell, the GOP candidate in this race is essentially an ACORN democrat. So in desperation, the NY Conservative Party has fielded Doug Hoffman, a third-party conservative candidate.

Hoffman looks like he actually has a shot at winning. Fred Thompson, the Club for Growth and the American Conservative Union have endorsed him.

On the other hand, Romney has refused to back Hoffman, and Huck may pay only lip service. Newt has endorsed the ACORN democrat running as a republican, and the RNC has sent her a bunch of money.

This race appears to be an important litmus test for all GOP candidates and power players.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=N2JkODA5MGE5MzhmYTQ4YWU1ZjQ5Njg4YmMwYzA3YmM=


8 posted on 10/17/2009 1:53:45 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: Tempest

At least Club for Growth is actually supporting the conservative candidate in this race — unlike the RNC, Romney, Gingrich, et al.


9 posted on 10/17/2009 1:54:37 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: ellery
House minority leader John Boehner and his right hand man, Rep. Eric Cantor have refused to get in the middle of the race, while former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney have also declined to support Hoffman.

Newt endorsed Scuzzy. I think Boehner donated to Scuzzy.

So I think some parts of this is inaccurate

10 posted on 10/17/2009 1:54:50 PM PDT by GeronL (They Made It Happen On Purpose Economically. MIHOPE)
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To: Tempest

Hoffman is the only conservative in the race


11 posted on 10/17/2009 1:55:38 PM PDT by GeronL (They Made It Happen On Purpose Economically. MIHOPE)
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To: ellery

Didn’t I hear that Gingrich supported the liberal GOP candidate as well?


12 posted on 10/17/2009 1:56:21 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: pissant

We’ll see. According to this article, Huck may voice some support, but refuse to back it up with fundraising. If that happens, I will see it as Huck trying to have it both ways.


13 posted on 10/17/2009 1:56:42 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: GeronL

Didn’t Newt just endorse Scuzzy yesterday? This article was written the day before. I think it’s not inaccurate—leopards have just shown even more of their spots since it was written.


14 posted on 10/17/2009 2:00:18 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: ChrisInAR

He sure did. So did Cantor, unfortunately.


15 posted on 10/17/2009 2:01:08 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: NeoCaveman

Agreed. This may be just one race, but for me it’s a weathervane. I hope Palin jumps in.


16 posted on 10/17/2009 2:02:22 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: Al B.

I sure hope that happens. If Hoffman wins against these craven GOP establishment donkeys, it might put a well-needed scare into the whole GOP establishment.


17 posted on 10/17/2009 2:04:02 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: ellery

Huck is a pretty shrewd guy. He knows which way the winds are blowing.


18 posted on 10/17/2009 2:06:05 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ellery

just a bit dated then


19 posted on 10/17/2009 2:06:26 PM PDT by GeronL (They Made It Happen On Purpose Economically. MIHOPE)
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To: ellery

What kind of deal did they make with their friends the lefties?


20 posted on 10/17/2009 2:06:48 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: ellery
They are all sitting there with their manicured fingers in the wind. They don't care about conservative principles.

They only care about themselves and POWER.

21 posted on 10/17/2009 2:08:49 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: pissant

I agree Huck is shrewd. It’s a pathetic, though, if he has to wait until he sees which way the winds are blowing to take a stand.


22 posted on 10/17/2009 2:12:12 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: ellery

LOL. Well, it’s pathetic that the entire crop of 2008 pubbies running for president waited til 2007 to sound remotely conservative (Hunter and Tancredo, excluded)


23 posted on 10/17/2009 2:13:48 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: freekitty
What kind of deal did they make with their friends the lefties?

That's a great question. Here's some more info on Scozzafava, the candidate that Newt, the RNC, etc. endorse (and the candidate that Romney and possibly Huck have declined to oppose):

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/16/an-acorn-friendly-big-labor-backing-tax-and-spend-radical-in-gop-clothing/

Scozzafava is an abortion rights advocate who favors gay marriage. It would be one thing if Scozzafava balanced that social liberalism with fiscal conservatism. But as a state assemblywoman, she voted for massive tax increases, Democratic budgets and a $180 million state bank bailout. She also supported the trillion-dollar federal stimulus package — which every House Republican voted against.

More troubling, Scozzafava in past elections has embraced the ballot line of the Working Families Party — a socialist outfit whose political DNA is intertwined with scandal-ridden ACORN. ACORN and the WFP have shared office space in New York City, Arkansas and Illinois. ACORN head Bertha Lewis, a close Scozzafava friend and political supporter, wears a second hat as vice chairman of the WFP. The WFP has been listed in ACORN documents dating back to 2000 as an “affiliate.”

24 posted on 10/17/2009 2:17:06 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: pissant

Hey, I don’t want to see ANY of the 2008 crowd run again (even Thompson, the guy I backed). I’m just posting about the GOP’s would-be 2012 candidates, and their calculating refusal to wholeheartedly support a promising, potentially winning conservative candidate against an ACORN GOP pick.

True colors are showing all over the place.


25 posted on 10/17/2009 2:20:02 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: rabscuttle385

ping.


26 posted on 10/17/2009 2:21:20 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: ellery

Why aren’t they supporting him? Skeletons?


27 posted on 10/17/2009 2:27:31 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

I imagine if it were just about skeletons, the RNC and Gingrich would have stayed out of the race entirely (rather than endorse Scozzafava, the big government ACORN GOP candidate).

My guess is that Romney and Huck are too craven to oppose the RNC unless they’re forced to do so. IMO, they along with the RNC don’t care about principles—they care about power only.


28 posted on 10/17/2009 2:36:29 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m beginning to think conservatives are the RINOs, Mr. Robinson. :(


29 posted on 10/17/2009 2:39:52 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: ellery
They're both weasels.
30 posted on 10/17/2009 2:42:11 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: pissant

According to this, Huckabee will NOT be endorsing Hoffman against the ACORN GOP candidate:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2364795/posts


31 posted on 10/17/2009 2:47:42 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: ellery

That’s a wrong thought IMO

...... RINOs tolerate conservatives.....they clearly don’t embrace us or the conservative movement. .


32 posted on 10/17/2009 2:53:40 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: ellery

They are both socialist RINO’s left-wing republicans.

“If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense...”

Thomas Jefferson


33 posted on 10/17/2009 2:56:51 PM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: ellery; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker; reaganaut; BufordP; ejonesie22; ...

The Rat puppet Myth Romney laughs gleefully as he inflicts the wishes of his Socialist masters upon Americans...over and over again.

34 posted on 10/17/2009 2:58:09 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: ellery

Hunter/DeMint 2012. Cheers


35 posted on 10/17/2009 3:14:46 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ellery

Would this be a good time for Sarah to fund raise for him?
A renegade could do that. lipstick,high heels,mucho money and attention.


36 posted on 10/17/2009 3:18:54 PM PDT by libbylu ( Palin begins from Wasilla not only a campaign, an Iditarod of a crusade ....YEAH!)
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To: ellery
"We probably won't be going so far as to let him tap into our national fundraising network, if that's what you mean."

That's not very white of you Huckmister what goes around comes around.

37 posted on 10/17/2009 3:49:41 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: ellery
On what basis would anyone even suggest (much less "think") that either would support a Conservative anything?

Has the AS staff started smoking the same kind of stuff that the MSM staffs do?

38 posted on 10/17/2009 3:54:27 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: pissant

:)


39 posted on 10/17/2009 4:07:04 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: libbylu

That sure seems like a good idea to me...


40 posted on 10/17/2009 4:07:32 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: pissant

Doesn’t mean much. A lot of Republicans are supporting Rubio but not because he’s conservative. Crist has gotten on bad terms with any in the party structure and Jeb Bush and his partisans hate Crist. Not saying Rubio is a bad candidate, just stating there is more than just a battle between conservatives vs liberals/establisment in that race.

Huckabee is a big government Republican who is only despised by the establsihment for one reason. He plays the evangelical card to full hilt. The establishment hates evangelicals. were it not for that or if he was a litle less outspoken they’d love him. Romney is well...Roney. A Phony. A Liberal. Someone who stands on both sides or doesn’t take a stand at all.


41 posted on 10/17/2009 4:42:46 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: ellery

If Palin were to show up on the 28th, just across the county, and fully and loudly endorse Hoffman...he’s win in a landslide...and Palin would continue to build her capital.


42 posted on 10/17/2009 4:47:14 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: ellery

Huck and Mitt might find the RINO wing a bit small to fight over. But, hell, let them. We conservatives should get behind Sarah and tell them both to go pound sand.


43 posted on 10/17/2009 4:52:13 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: ellery
"Scozzafava is an abortion rights advocate who favors gay marriage. It would be one thing if Scozzafava balanced that social liberalism with fiscal conservatism. But as a state assemblywoman, she voted for massive tax increases, Democratic budgets and a $180 million state bank bailout. She also supported the trillion-dollar federal stimulus package — which every House Republican voted against".

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the bottom line. Our national party is NEITHER socially or fiscally conservative...and would support ANYONE who cares to don the GOP banner OVER a conservative of any ilk.

44 posted on 10/17/2009 4:55:36 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

Exactly—and it’s to their benefit to keep the small government conservative and the social conservative wings fighting against each other...it keeps us all from realizing that the people in charge are neither.


45 posted on 10/17/2009 4:57:31 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: Tempest

What are you talking about? The Club for Growth just completely defends the free market, plus Chris Chocola is a former small businessman.

God bless you all,

Jonathan


46 posted on 10/17/2009 5:45:19 PM PDT by jdlucas04
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To: ChrisInAR

In 1968, a much younger Newton Gingrich was supporting another NY liberal Repubican named Nelson A. Rockefeller.


47 posted on 10/17/2009 5:55:25 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: NeoCaveman
If ever there was a time for Sarah Palin to swoop in, it is now.

Sarah, the time is Now! If ever there was an opportune time to bust into the limelight, it would be now by suddenly swooping in, almost unnanounced, and supporting Hoffman with an impromtu speech and endorsement. It would cause a national riot and a rallying point for all us conservatives out here that are eager to hear from you! It would be a kickoff for 2012!

48 posted on 10/17/2009 6:31:48 PM PDT by Art in Idaho
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To: ellery; All

Mike Huckabee is primarily a moral/social conservative. If the person is not of this variety, I doubt Mike would fully support him. It is really just that simple. I think Sarah Palin is also primarily a moral/social conservative....she probably wouldn’t fully support him either unless he is also.

What is this candidate’s view on abortion, homosexuality, etc.?


49 posted on 10/17/2009 6:45:52 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: ellery

If all of the probable ‘12 RINO Presidential candidates decide to support the ‘09 very leftist RINO N.Y. Congressional candidate, then it will only help to boost the serious chances of victory for all of the truly conservative candidates for ‘12 POTUS. Go for it, RINOs!


50 posted on 10/17/2009 6:49:45 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Conservatives obey the rules. Leftists cheat. Who probably has the political advantage?)
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