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Debt Spiral Financial Holocaust Fiat Currencies Zero Bound, The Next Down Leg
The Market Oracle ^ | 10-18-2009 | Ty Andros

Posted on 10/18/2009 4:31:04 PM PDT by blam

Debt Spiral Financial Holocaust Fiat Currencies Zero Bound, The Next Down Leg

Stock-Markets / Stocks Bear Market
Oct 18, 2009 - 11:10 AM
By: Ty Andros

The demise of the G7 financial systems, currencies and economies continues to march along as incomes collapse. The social welfare states and their banking system’s Ponzi finance-based economies are BROKE, their obligations and promises irredeemable and unpayable.

A debt spiral is in full view, irreversible with policymakers unable or unwilling and opposed to making the changes required to CREATE PRIVATE SECTOR INCOME GROWTH and control SPENDING, and which must be done to avert the final CALAMITY.

The greatest transfer of wealth from those who store it in paper to those who don’t is unfolding. A Crack-up Boom approaches… Awash upon a sea of trillions of Dollars, Yen, Pounds, Swiss Francs and Euros, FIAT currencies are flying off the printing presses, printed out of thin air! Markets are doing things which have never been seen before in HISTORY, and it has only begun. Within as little as a year or as long as a decade, the G7 currencies will go to the intrinsic value of the paper and ink in which they are constructed, as all the fiat currency and credit systems which preceded them have done. This is a currency extinction event. A Crack-up Boom looms…

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: currency; depression; economy; finance
A currency extinction event. That's a new one.

I suppose it is wise to have barter items available?

Nickels, coffee and chocolate are my main barter items.

The Nickel Is Worth 5 Cents Again

1 posted on 10/18/2009 4:31:06 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

I can’t even get a penny for my thoughts.


2 posted on 10/18/2009 4:32:23 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: P.O.E.

Ty Andros = Gold Salesman....FOS IMO


3 posted on 10/18/2009 4:35:25 PM PDT by databoss (Keep The Change....)
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To: blam

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2009/10/is-federal-reserve-still-shoveling.html


4 posted on 10/18/2009 4:40:03 PM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: blam

I wish I could say I understand what the title of this article is. I can’t even swear it’s English. ;o)


5 posted on 10/18/2009 4:55:07 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: FromLori
Thanks Lori.

Is the Federal Reserve Still Shoveling Money to Goldman Sachs?

Sunday, October 18, 2009

It is a very strong possibility.

There is a lot of mystery surrounding Goldman's high velocity trading. When Goldman's 3Q earnings were announced, I wrote: So what is this "velocity" all about? Who knows? Max Kaiser seems to think it is front running, it may very well be. You really need someone at Goldman or the NYSE to explain the high flying black box that Goldman is using. That's the only way to understand it, for sure. Goldman has captured the NYSE, so they are as likely not to tell you as Goldman itself.

But maybe it isn't even exchange traded activity. Rolfe Winkler points to an interesting exchange between bank analyst Meredith Whitney and David Viniar - Goldman Sachs- EVP, CFO, during Goldman's investor conference call following the release of 3Q results.

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6 posted on 10/18/2009 5:02:34 PM PDT by blam
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To: autumnraine
"I wish I could say I understand what the title of this article is. I can’t even swear it’s English. ;o)"

LOL. Me too. Just read it one word at a time...not like a sentance. That works pretty good until the 'Zero Bound' part.

7 posted on 10/18/2009 5:04:51 PM PDT by blam
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To: databoss

Yeah, the folks at Market Oracle are heavy into gold and currency trading.


8 posted on 10/18/2009 5:30:25 PM PDT by randita (Chains you can bereave in.)
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To: blam

Audit the FED.


9 posted on 10/18/2009 5:39:49 PM PDT by katlynne11
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To: blam
The Nickel Is Worth 5 Cents Again

I've been thumping the tub these last few months about the 5c piece being "poor man's" silver. It cost you nothing but face value and may come in handy if inflation takes off. If not, all you've given up in the pathetic interest from having the money in a savings account. True, right now it's "chump change" but rather than have wads of paper, a bunch of 2-liter soda bottles filled with nickles might come in handy.

10 posted on 10/18/2009 6:19:02 PM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: blam

Gold and silver coins.
Cash in various denominations.
Ammunition in popular calibers.
(.22 LR, 12 gauge, pistol calibers)
Bulk dry food (rice, flour,pasta).
Liquor in small (375 ml.) bottles.
Canned meat, fish, poultry.
Diesel fuel, gasoline, kerosene.
Firewood/standing timber.
Reliable firearms.

Rinse. Repeat.


11 posted on 10/18/2009 6:44:03 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: blam
This paragraph sums it up.

" The current political and financial leaders are DELIBERATELY driving the US economy off the cliff to precipitate the crisis which will allow them to SEIZE what freedoms we have left, to SAVE you and pay for the ESSENTIAL services they are providing you. It is right out of the SAUL ALINSKY playbook for SOCIALIZING an economy and IMPOSING MARXISM."

12 posted on 10/18/2009 7:26:07 PM PDT by kara2008
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To: Oatka
"True, right now it's "chump change" but rather than have wads of paper, a bunch of 2-liter soda bottles filled with nickles might come in handy."

My thoughts too, costs nothing...incidently, it was FReeper Travis McGee who originally suggested this idea about the nickels to me.

13 posted on 10/18/2009 7:53:47 PM PDT by blam
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

The rich who have invested in GOLD are not physically holding their gold, only paper.


14 posted on 10/18/2009 8:38:44 PM PDT by yazdankurd (fortis fortuna adiuvat)
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The rich who have invested in GOLD are not physically holding their gold, only paper.

How do you know this? Can you give us a source?

CA....

15 posted on 10/18/2009 9:45:05 PM PDT by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've at last found that silly grin!)
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To: blam
That quote from Greenspan is awesome.

Anyone coming for my gold or silver is getting my lead instead.

16 posted on 10/18/2009 9:58:41 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: yazdankurd
The rich who have invested in GOLD are not physically holding their gold, only paper.

I'm not doubting your assertion, but doesn't holding gold "paper" kinda defeat the point?

Like having an envelope full of ammunition promissory notes. Not much good WTSHTF.

17 posted on 10/19/2009 3:22:16 AM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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Did anyone actually bother to read the article at the top of the thread? It’s pretty amazing.


18 posted on 10/19/2009 8:25:23 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: databoss; All
I really can't figure out: why is it the TV salesmen are pitching gold as a 'safe' investment. If things are so perilous, who would want to trade off that asset?

All those ads on TV can't be cheap.

19 posted on 10/19/2009 9:34:32 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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Wow....here we go....Hedge Fund is saying they are betting on this...will post info....

Einhorn bets on major currency 'death spiral'

20 posted on 10/19/2009 11:31:34 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: justa-hairyape
Anyone coming for my gold or silver is getting my lead instead.

A fair exchange in my book!

21 posted on 10/19/2009 11:40:52 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks.

Just emailed that one to my son.

22 posted on 10/19/2009 12:08:41 PM PDT by blam
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To: investigateworld
All those ads on TV can't be cheap.

According to the article, a Gold salesman has to overcome some major negative advertising from the Fiat Toilet Paper Dispensers otherwise known as our corrupt socialist and crony capitalists overlords. Since Gold and Silver shot up today, either the demand is still greater then the supply or the Fiat Toilet Paper Roll just got bigger.

23 posted on 10/19/2009 4:35:43 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: investigateworld

you’re joking right? why do hucksters pitch anything to suckers? because they are the suckers are marks and will make the pitchmen rich!!! it’s not about gold being a great investment it’s about the salesman making money (which he will probably use to buy stocks and real estate)


24 posted on 10/19/2009 5:08:12 PM PDT by databoss (Keep The Change....)
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To: databoss
;^)
25 posted on 10/19/2009 8:59:52 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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