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Ready to Revolt: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States
Las Vegas Review Journal via Drudge Report ^ | 10/192009 | ALAN MAIMON

Posted on 10/18/2009 6:47:38 PM PDT by GVnana

Ready to Revolt: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States

Group asks police and military to lay down arms in response to orders deemed unlawful

Depending on your perspective, the Oath Keepers are either strident defenders of liberty or dangerous peddlers of paranoia.

In the age of town halls, talk radio and tea parties, middle ground of opinion is hard to find.

Launched in March by Las Vegan Stewart Rhodes, Oath Keepers bills itself as a nonpartisan group of current and retired law enforcement and military personnel who vow to fulfill their oaths to the Constitution.

More specifically, the group's members, which number in the thousands, pledge to disobey orders they deem unlawful, including directives to disarm the American people and to blockade American cities. By refusing the latter order, the Oath Keepers hope to prevent cities from becoming "giant concentration camps," a scenario the 44-year-old Rhodes says he can envision happening in the coming years.

It's a Cold War-era nightmare vision with a major twist: The occupying forces in this imagined future are American, not Soviet.

"The whole point of Oath Keepers is to stop a dictatorship from ever happening here," Rhodes, a former Army paratrooper and Yale-trained lawyer, said in an interview with the Review-Journal. "My focus is on the guys with the guns, because they can't do it without them.

"We say if the American people decide it's time for a revolution, we'll fight with you."

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In a July report titled "Return of the Militias," the Alabama-based Southern Poverty Law Center singled out Oath Keepers as "a particularly worrisome example of the Patriot revival."

The Patriot movement, so named because its adherents believe the federal government has stepped on the constitutional ideals of the American Revolution, gained traction in the 1990s and has been closely linked to anti-government militia and white supremacist movements.

Huh?

First extremist propaganda unit to go is the Southern Poverty Law Center.

1 posted on 10/18/2009 6:47:38 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: GVnana

What scares Obama is the fact that units who do revolt will do so with their weapons and equipment.


2 posted on 10/18/2009 6:51:53 PM PDT by Bad Jack Bauer (Fat and Bald? I was BORN fat and bald, thank you very much!)
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To: GVnana

“Southern Poverty Law Center”
I could write their pamphlets in my pajamas in 20 minutes.
What do they do?
Do they have a staffed “center”?
Do they practice law”
Do they do anything to help poverty?
Do they have an opinion on the out of control fed?


3 posted on 10/18/2009 6:52:11 PM PDT by omega4179 ( I hope he fails.)
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To: GVnana

God Bless them.


4 posted on 10/18/2009 6:52:44 PM PDT by BeckB
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To: GVnana
the Southern Poverty Law Center

Honest lawyers versus worrisome retired Military and Cops.

Gee, I wonder who I'd go with?

5 posted on 10/18/2009 6:53:52 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: GVnana

I will not accept unconstitutional government. I know they may kill me, but I’ll make it as expensive for them as I can.


6 posted on 10/18/2009 6:55:54 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: GVnana

The SPLC doesn’t like me either.


7 posted on 10/18/2009 6:56:30 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Bad Jack Bauer

God bless these officers & God have mercy on us.


8 posted on 10/18/2009 6:56:38 PM PDT by rae4palin
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To: omega4179

SPLC is a wing of the communist party.


9 posted on 10/18/2009 6:57:17 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: omega4179

Make no mistake the SPLC is probably one of the
largest intelligence gathering organizations in
the country. Not to mention a liberal mouthpiece
much like the muslim CAIR.
They are DUE for an investigation all their own~!


10 posted on 10/18/2009 6:58:27 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Travis McGee
The SPLC doesn’t like me either.

I have no doubt.

11 posted on 10/18/2009 6:59:23 PM PDT by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: GVnana

God bless ‘em! I’m glad to see that they are out there, & I just now joined their group on FaceBook.


12 posted on 10/18/2009 7:00:58 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: GVnana

SPLC? If they are for it, I’m probably against it.


13 posted on 10/18/2009 7:02:17 PM PDT by Ronin (Nemo me impune lacesset)
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To: tet68

Hmmmm ..?? Maybe you should put that bug in Beck’s ear - he’s doing really good about digging up dirt and exposing corruption.


14 posted on 10/18/2009 7:03:29 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Michael Yon: "The U.S. military is the most respected institution in Iraq.")
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To: GVnana
Thinking about this for sometime and one of the thoughts I've had would be for the NRA to organize local volunteer groups in coordination with local law enforcement and state NG units to augment their force in case of local emergencies, riots, terror attacks or attempts to circumvent the constitution at the federal level.
15 posted on 10/18/2009 7:05:02 PM PDT by Errant (`)
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To: GVnana
The Feds did it before and they will try to do it again.

By 1863, the United States Army accepted black soldiers into segregated units. Many enlistees were formerly slaves from Florida and other southern states. The general orders issued to the 1st and 2nd South Carolina Colored Troops also revealed the overall Federal strategy for the state. “The main objects of your expedition are to carry the proclamation of freedom to the enslaved; to call all loyal men into the service of the United States; to occupy as much of the state of Florida as possible with forces under your command; and to weaken, harass, and annoy those who are in rebellion.”

November 14-22 1861 Expedition through Accomack and Northampton Counties Virginia REPORTS etc. No 1. Instructions to Brigadier General Henry H. Lockwood, U.S. Army [First letter] Baltimore, November 11, 1861 GENERAL: You will proceed with the forces under your command into the Counties of Accomac and Northampton, Virginia, and carry out the assurances given in the proclamation to be issued by me on the 13th instant. One of the objects in view, though not stated in the proclamation is to bring these counties back to their allegiance to the United States and reunite them to the Union on the footing of West Virginia. The first step in the accomplishment of this object is to disarm and disperse the military corps encamped within them. If these corps are in the service of the Confederates, they should be made prisoners and sent to this city. A conciliatory course should be pursued in regard to those who are not under arms and have not been in the pay of the Confederate Government. It will require great discretion and prudence in bringing about the desired result; but if the people of these counties but if the people of these counties can be induced to declare their independence of the Confederates, the strongest assurance may be given to them of an efficient protection by the Government.

16 posted on 10/18/2009 7:05:21 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Bad Jack Bauer

Could that be why he wants his civilian army (probably made up of Acorn and SEIU personnel)?


17 posted on 10/18/2009 7:05:28 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: Bad Jack Bauer

He and the Ci-cago gang find upholding the Constitution revolting; it disgusts them becasue it would frustrate their totalitarian goals to achieve fascist bossism as a replacement for the Constitution.


18 posted on 10/18/2009 7:06:13 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: BeckB
God bless every one involved. Get out and do some exercise, you need it, Your country will need you soon.
19 posted on 10/18/2009 7:06:56 PM PDT by reefdiver (So how's that HOPE & CHANGE working out for ya ?)
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To: GVnana

Isn’t it telling that the SPLC is worried about people who swear to uphold the Constitution?


20 posted on 10/18/2009 7:07:25 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (3%)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

You betcha!


21 posted on 10/18/2009 7:09:46 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: GVnana
There is one main reason why this country has never been physically invaded...the largest armed civilian population in the world.

I am former military and retired law enforcement. I swore an oath on several occasions and in each event was not kidding.

I have cried many times at events where the National Anthem or Americas the Beautiful was played. As Yoda would say. "Defend her, I will."

The Oathkeepers are putting themselves out there for public display of the enemy...and while I would normally warn against that, something tells me the time is right (or ripe).

22 posted on 10/18/2009 7:10:49 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Then join hand in hand, brave Americans all! By uniting we stand, by dividing we fall.)
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To: GVnana
"We say if the American people decide it's time for a revolution, we'll fight with you."

Oath Keepers has it 180 degrees backwards. A revolution can only occur against a government's existing laws, in this case the Constitution. The people seek to prevent a revolution by defending, not overthrow the Constitution. BO and his fellow socialists in Congress are the revolutionaries.
23 posted on 10/18/2009 7:12:03 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Yet another reason I don’t like SPLC.


24 posted on 10/18/2009 7:12:10 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: GVnana

the Oath Keepers hope to prevent cities from becoming “giant concentration camps,”
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most big cities are liberal blue cesspools, so why would they turn them into camps?

The cities may become battlefields in CWII, and some may burn, but I think of it as urban renewal.


25 posted on 10/18/2009 7:12:10 PM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: antidemoncrat

yeah but they aren’t very accurate with their weapons, they hold their gak all sideways n stuff.


26 posted on 10/18/2009 7:17:53 PM PDT by joesjane (The strength of the pack is the wolf - Rudyard Kipling)
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To: Travis McGee

I’m no fan of theirs.

They’re not especially enamored of folks like me.

So it’s mutual. They should know that I’ve got a List, too.

You get special mention, Travis, as they’ve chosen to take one of your pictures and make it into one of their ‘bogeymen’. That’s rich, and a complete inversion of reality.

On the serious side, I’ve sworn the same oath my father did so many years ago. Like my father before me, I am a rifleman and a patriot. Let scum like the SPLC make the most of it.

III


27 posted on 10/18/2009 7:20:22 PM PDT by Noumenon (Work that AQT - turn ammunition into skill. No tyrant can maintain a 300 yard perimeter forever.)
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To: GVnana; Eaker; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; ApesForEvolution; aragorn; archy; ArmedSkeptic; backhoe; ...
CW2 Ping


28 posted on 10/18/2009 7:23:21 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Noumenon

They just need to amend that pesky Constitution. Get rid of the “mistakes” like the BOR etc. Give it the full Obama makeover.

Won’t be easy, though. Millions of us swore to defend the Constitution we have, and we’re armed, and we don’t forget an oath.


29 posted on 10/18/2009 7:28:54 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee; Noumenon
They just need to amend that pesky Constitution.

Why would they bother with that? It's not like it's actually been observed for the last few decades or anything.

30 posted on 10/18/2009 7:34:34 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: GVnana
First extremist propaganda unit to go is the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Tick, tock-------

31 posted on 10/18/2009 7:37:01 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (,)
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To: IrishPennant

It’s said that Admiral Yamamoto, architect of the Pearl Harbor attack, declared the impossibility of a land invasion of the United States by noting that “there will be a rifle behind every blade of grass” confronting any invader.

Some challenge the veracity of this quote, but history confirms Yamamoto’s reluctance to attack the “sleeping giant”.

IMHO, a rifle behind a blade of grass can be aimed in any direction. The sleeping giant is known to bitterly cling to guns and religion.


32 posted on 10/18/2009 7:37:40 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: GVnana

Now that this link is on Drudge, I have a feeling Oath Keepers will see an increase in size....


33 posted on 10/18/2009 7:43:20 PM PDT by CheneyChick (01/20/2013)
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To: IrishPennant
There is one main reason why this country has never been physically invaded...the largest armed civilian population in the world.

Yup, and we got more than just bb guns too.

34 posted on 10/18/2009 7:43:35 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Obamanos!)
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To: Lurker
Why would they bother with that? [Amending the Cons.]It's not like it's actually been observed for the last few decades or anything.

Because if they stretch the real Constitution too far, they may ignite a foreceful countermovement to defend the Constitution. Including by members of the military and LE.

OTOH, if they ram through some Marxist-oriented constitutional convention, then the military will simply have a "new" constitution to defend. One that say, enshrines income guarantees, free housing, free medical, redistribution of wealth, no 2nd Amd, etc.

Many or most in the military would gladly accept the "new" constitution. That is the coming gambit, a few years hence.

35 posted on 10/18/2009 7:44:02 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

Amen, Brother. So help me God.


36 posted on 10/18/2009 7:44:12 PM PDT by CheneyChick (01/20/2013)
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To: elcid1970
Estimated right now....50 million armed Americans. Find a bigger force!!!!

And as a someone with prior military experience, I can tell you that most soldiers in any organized Army or militia are only issued one firearm. How many of "we" 50 million have more than just one gun to turn to???

37 posted on 10/18/2009 7:44:33 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Then join hand in hand, brave Americans all! By uniting we stand, by dividing we fall.)
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To: Travis McGee

Well, I am not a member of Oath Keepers but I did take more than one oath. I intend to honor them.


38 posted on 10/18/2009 7:45:37 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: CodeToad

God (and Country) Bless you, brother!


39 posted on 10/18/2009 7:48:46 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Then join hand in hand, brave Americans all! By uniting we stand, by dividing we fall.)
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To: HerrBlucher
Yup, and we got more than just bb guns too.

Yeppers...We have a great deal of alternatives.

40 posted on 10/18/2009 7:52:02 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Then join hand in hand, brave Americans all! By uniting we stand, by dividing we fall.)
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To: Noumenon; Travis McGee
I would like to offer this thought, cribbed from the Communists, and altered in spirit to suit this occasion: "From each according to his ability, TO each according to their need."

Huah.

41 posted on 10/18/2009 7:54:21 PM PDT by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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To: All

The government has been taken over ..lets face reality. Obama has just started. Look at the insane people he has in power around him. I’m afraid there will be a revolution in this country . Im ready .I assure you Obama will take total control of the media in a years time. FR will be no more. We will have to get our information through underground means.
Keeping the population armed is the only solution.


42 posted on 10/18/2009 7:58:22 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: Travis McGee
Many or most in the military would gladly accept the "new" constitution.

And there's whole bunch of 'em who won't. And a whole lot more former military who remember what it was we swore our Oath to.

I'm one of those.

I'll make 'em pay for every word and every yard.

43 posted on 10/18/2009 7:59:10 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: GVnana

Groundwork for more legal action.


44 posted on 10/18/2009 8:00:20 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: IrishPennant

We’re all in this together!


45 posted on 10/18/2009 8:02:41 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: IrishPennant

“most soldiers in any organized Army or militia are only issued one firearm. How many of “we” 50 million have more than just one gun”

Very interesting point. Never thought of that, but yer right!


46 posted on 10/18/2009 8:03:57 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: elcid1970

“””It’s said that Admiral Yamamoto, architect of the Pearl Harbor attack, declared the impossibility of a land invasion of the United States by noting that “there will be a rifle behind every blade of grass” confronting any invader.”””

Maybe the commies have learned from this quote. And now they have decided to become the enemy from within! Getting elected and destroying this country from within. No guns and not a shot fired from behind every blade of grass.


47 posted on 10/18/2009 8:05:03 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Become a monthly donor or FR won't be here for you!)
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To: Travis McGee
"...we’re armed, and we don’t forget an oath."

Amen

48 posted on 10/18/2009 8:08:42 PM PDT by USAF70 (America is not 'governed' by the President or Congress. America is governed by the U.S.Constitution.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
I will not accept unconstitutional government.

3/4 of what the Federal government spends money on NOW, is unconstitutional...violating the 10th Amendment and more. Has been that way at least since the 1930s.

Do you obey accept it now?

49 posted on 10/18/2009 8:19:39 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: CodeToad
I was ready a vanity thread earlier on "what are your hobbies" and was surprised how many FReepers play with unconventional stuff...the cross bow enthusiasts make me think...perfect quiet, stealthy weapon in guerrilla warfare, especially if backed by your buddy with a tripod mounted .50 cal :)

FReeping is fun and educational...who knew???

50 posted on 10/18/2009 8:20:59 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Then join hand in hand, brave Americans all! By uniting we stand, by dividing we fall.)
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