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'Nuclear Option' on Obamcare Goes Forward
HumanEvents.com ^ | 10/19/2009 | Connie Hair

Posted on 10/19/2009 7:56:50 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama

Nuclear Option on Health Care Effort Heads to Budget Committee

House Democrats pulled the trigger last week on the nuclear option for H.R. 3200, the government takeover of health care, setting into motion the process that would allow passage of the bill with 51 votes in the Senate.  

The next step in the process is certification by the Budget Committee that should take place early this week.  HUMAN EVENTS broke the story last week and will report the scheduled vote in the Budget Committee as soon as information becomes available.  A list of members of the committee and their contact information is found here on their website.

CMS Gag Order Lifted

Late Friday afternoon, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) notified Congress they had lifted the unconstitutional gag order barring Medicare Advantage (MA) and prescription drug insurers from communicating with their customers about the deep cuts in Medicare proposed in every one of the Obamacare bills. Insurers have been under the gag order since September 21.

Rep. Dave Camp (R-Mich.), the ranking Republican on the House Ways and Means Committee, has led Republican committee efforts in the House to demand hearings, documentation, investigations and a reversal of the improper gag order.

“I am relieved that the Administration is no longer misusing its regulatory authority to prohibit plans from communicating to seniors factual information about the Medicare cuts in health care reform,” Camp said.  “However, I remain concerned that CMS overstepped in issuing its gag order as a result of undue political pressure to penalize anyone who dare speak out against the Democrats’ health care bill.  We still need to get the answers to how and why this gag order was issued.”

According to Camp, CMS has not responded to a demand for documents relevant to the decision-making process, but Republicans on the committee have also requested a report from the Inspector General of Health and Human Services concerning any undue pressures and the role politics may have played in the issuance of the gag order.  

Jonathan Blum, an acting director at CMS, claimed responsibility in the media for the issuance of the gag order.  Blum is a former Senate staffer who once worked for Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee.  Baucus is responsible for passing out of committee last week the phantom health care bill that wasn’t and still isn’t yet written.

The events in question began in late September when, at the behest of Baucus, his former staffer at CMS launched an investigation into Humana, Inc., for merely informing their customers who purchase MA and prescription drug benefit plans that these plans could be greatly impacted by current proposals for health care reform.  

Blum claimed in a press release that Humana may have violated agency guidelines and that CMS had begun an investigation. CMS then used this “investigation” as a basis to issue the gag order restricting all MA insurers from communications with their customers regarding the deep cuts to Medicare proposed in Democrats’ pending health care legislation.

Notably absent from restriction was the AARP, the largest provider of Medicare-related insurance, reporting related earnings of over $2 billion dollars over the past two years.  The AARP has for months been mailing their customers with pro-Obamacare information, running television ads and has pro-Obamacare information posted on their website.

The new CMS guidance restates and affirms that insurers offering MA and prescription drug plans have the right to communicate with their customers regarding pending legislation as long as they do not use federal monies to fund the communications.  CMS has also dropped its challenge to the accuracy of the statement that, under Democrats’ proposed health care “reform” legislation, “millions of seniors and disabled individuals could lose many of the important benefits and services that make Medicare advantage health plans so valuable.”

FY’09 Had a $1.4 Trillion Deficit


As the official deficit numbers were confirmed by the Obama administration on Friday, Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky talked about the staggering rise in deficit spending.

“As the deficit grew under this administration, we all thought it would set off alarm bells, and that a $1.4 trillion deficit would set off the sirens,” McConnell said.  “Instead, Democrats in Washington are now calling for adding yet another quarter-trillion dollars to the deficit on health care spending alone. Congress simply can’t continue acting like a teenager on a spending spree with his parent’s credit card and no regard to who pays the bill.”

“We need to listen to the American people: No more spending money we don’t have,” McConnell added.

Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.), chairman of the conservative Republican Study Committee, reminded all Americans that Obama’s full budget plan includes over $9 trillion in new deficits even without the government takeover of health care.

“This once unfathomable budget deficit should take the breath away from every American,” Price said. “We are already beginning to feel the negative effects of this borrowing, yet it will be our children and grandchildren who will long be indebted to the recklessness of this administration. The most frightening part of this budget outlook is that trillion dollar deficits stand to become the norm under this administration. The President’s budget plan puts us on a trajectory that our next balanced budget may literally be generations away.
 
“Contrary to the sense that Americans get from free-spending Democrats in Congress, these deficits carry enormous consequences,” Price continued.  “The dollar is already plummeting, crippling tax increases sit on the horizon, and rising interest rates threaten our long-term productivity. The federal government is operating as an enormous pyramid scheme that threatens to tumble over if we cannot get federal spending under control. Unfortunately, the President has tossed aside leadership and is pressing forward with the biggest expansion of government in history.”
 
“The American people are demanding responsibility in Washington,” Price concluded.  “They understand that the solution to overspending is not more spending. The Republican Study Committee, as with every other challenge we face, has laid out a better solution. Our budget reaches balance in ten years, and we continue to advocate for a return to fiscal sanity. Governance means making tough choices and setting priorities. This is what every American family does each day, and they are ready for those in charge in Washington to do the same.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nuclearoption; obamacare

1 posted on 10/19/2009 7:56:54 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Schummer aka Schmucker said they would do this. There was no doubt in his voice.


2 posted on 10/19/2009 7:59:38 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: 2nd amendment mama

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/dick_morris_obamacare/2009/10/16/273383.html?s=al&promo_code=8D4B-1


3 posted on 10/19/2009 8:00:08 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: 2nd amendment mama

How soon do they do this with a new constitution?


4 posted on 10/19/2009 8:01:57 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (ZerOcare: Bureaucratic best practices equals death panels.)
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To: Sacajaweau

After the Sarah Palin commercial, listen to Dick Morris on Obamacare:

http://video.newsmax.com/?bcpid=20972460001&bclid=22770166001&bctid=45077029001&s=al&promo_code=8D4B-1


5 posted on 10/19/2009 8:03:01 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Sacajaweau

They do this at their own peril. I hope everyone involved in this atrocity will be voted out in 2010!


6 posted on 10/19/2009 8:03:20 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Bitsy

http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/medicare_cuts/2009/10/16/273253.html?s=al&promo_code=8D49-1


7 posted on 10/19/2009 8:04:53 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Bitsy

http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/koch_obama_healthcare/2009/10/15/272921.html?s=al&promo_code=8D49-1


8 posted on 10/19/2009 8:05:51 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Bitsy

http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/blaylock_healthcare_draft/2009/10/12/271348.html?s=al&promo_code=8BBA-1


9 posted on 10/19/2009 8:08:12 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: 2nd amendment mama
House Democrats pulled the trigger last week on the nuclear option for H.R. 3200, the government takeover of health care, setting into motion the process that would allow passage of the bill with 51 votes in the Senate.

The RATS polling must be telling them there is no way the GOP can retake the House in 2010.
10 posted on 10/19/2009 8:09:34 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
This was the point I made back when the Republicans refused to use the then appropriate "Nuclear Option" to get some badly needed judges onto the courts. They didn't want to set a precedent for the Democrats if they took control of the senate. My view is that nothing will stop the unethical Rats. This is proving me out.

Going nuclear on 1/5th of the US economy is much more serious than placing Justices that the Dimwitts kept filibustering, yet that don't stop the vindictive nitwitted Democrat Children from carrying out their dastardly economy and freedom destroying plans.

11 posted on 10/19/2009 8:11:51 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (There is no "O" in Transparency.)
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To: Cheerio

Yeah and they believe Soros’ KOS polling...


12 posted on 10/19/2009 8:18:08 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Cheerio

Yeah and they believe Soros’ KOS polling...


13 posted on 10/19/2009 8:18:21 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: FreeAtlanta

Where are all the news stories on the Democrats using the “nuclear option”? I seem to recall round-the-clock coverage on this issue when the Republicans were contemplating it. Now that it is Democrats, it’s suddenly a non-story?


14 posted on 10/19/2009 8:19:44 AM PDT by Scutter
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To: 2nd amendment mama; LucyT
Can you imagine what the uproar would be if a Republican Congress made Medicare issue a GAG order to private insurers?

We would have Dems rioting in the streets.

I can't believe that we just let that happen without at least rattling a few Dem cages.

Thus IS fascism.!!!!!

15 posted on 10/19/2009 8:19:44 AM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: Bitsy
They do this at their own peril. I hope everyone involved in this atrocity will be voted out in 2010!

It will be too late, even if we do well in 2010. Let's suppose that Republicans make massive midterm gains and then repeal parts of Obamacare in 2011. Guess who will VETO any such legislation? Obama.

This health care monstrosity must be stopped this year. If you know anyone in NJ or VA, please ask them to vote Republican on November 3. If the GOP can win both statehouses, health care will be all but dead. This is why Clinton, Biden and Obama are all going into New Jersey this week. The stakes are that high.

16 posted on 10/19/2009 8:30:33 AM PDT by mwl8787
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To: Cheerio

Or:

a. The Rats will lose any and every election next year, so piss in the punch bowl while you can.

-or-

b. There will be no elections next year. Barry 0 ‘suspends’ them. Civil War 2 commences.


17 posted on 10/19/2009 8:40:02 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA ("Henceforth, you shall be known as...'Nobel Obama'".)
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To: mwl8787

Of course if conservatives win BIG ENOUGH they may be able to overturn an Obummer veto. But they would have to win big, very very big and in every state and for the majority of open seats. It may tke a miracle but miracles do happen and I believe in them. It could happen given the mood of the majority of the country right now.


18 posted on 10/19/2009 8:41:25 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Ev Reeman

Visit one of the CNN or MSNBC blog sites and you’ll find out just how ignorant people are in this country. In response to Senator Gregg (R-NH) decrying that deficits over the coming decade will consume 80% of GDP and will of course result in reduced standards of living for all Americans, these economically ignorant people at CNN don’t even understand why this is factually true. They honestly believe that the source of money is a printing press and that government spending is an alternative mode of creating wealth! This is getting very dangerous for our nation.


19 posted on 10/19/2009 8:52:12 AM PDT by mwl8787
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To: Ev Reeman

Visit one of the CNN or MSNBC blog sites and you’ll find out just how ignorant people are in this country. In response to Senator Gregg (R-NH) decrying that deficits over the coming decade will consume 80% of GDP and will of course result in reduced standards of living for all Americans, these economically ignorant people at CNN don’t even understand why this is factually true. They honestly believe that the source of money is a printing press and that government spending is an alternative mode of creating wealth! This is getting very dangerous for our nation.


20 posted on 10/19/2009 8:52:20 AM PDT by mwl8787
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To: Bitsy
They do this at their own peril. I hope everyone involved in this atrocity will be voted out in 2010!

I agree with your comments....however unfortunately the average U.S. voters (independents, demoRATs & so-called moderate Republicans) have the attention spam longevity of snails & slugs. In other words, the demoRATs in Congress are betting with almost 100% confidence that they will be returned to Congress no matter what or how they vote on ANYTHING. It is tragic. After manning the phone banks last fall's election, I can attest with absolute certainty that the logic behind most voters is stupid, gullible & utterly lacking in any intelligent mindset.

Secondly, the demoRATs know that once ANY socialist piece of crap is passed, it will NEVER be reversed. If this is passed, even if Repubs would miraculously reclaim either the House or Senate or both (fat chance) this socialist health care atrocity will be here to stay.
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21 posted on 10/19/2009 9:00:47 AM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: mwl8787

These lefties haven’t got the sense God gave a flea. If everybody’s wealth is destroyed in this country, SO WILL THEIRS. THAT IS A BASIC FACT AND IT CANNOT HAPPEN UNLESS IT HAPPENS TO ALL - ALL OF US INCLUDING OBUMMER SUPPORTERS. WHAT A BUNCH OF MORONS, IDIOTS AND ZOMBIE SHEEP.


22 posted on 10/19/2009 9:02:07 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: GOPsterinMA
-or- b. There will be no elections next year. Barry 0 ‘suspends’ them. Civil War 2 commences.

If that occurs, I certainly hope there are enough Patriots ready to rumble. There should be no reason anyone who has been watching this takeover from within to not be prepared (except ammo is hard to find).
23 posted on 10/19/2009 9:32:19 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio

Not any more. All the online suppliers (i.e. Palmetto State Armory, Wideners, AIM) have bulk .223, 9mm, .40, etc. back in stock.

Just picked up some more M855; I haven’t seen any in months, now it is everywhere. Prices are dropping as well.


24 posted on 10/19/2009 9:42:21 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: rcrngroup

Secondly, the demoRATs know that once ANY socialist piece of crap is passed, it will NEVER be reversed. If this is passed, even if Repubs would miraculously reclaim either the House or Senate or both (fat chance) this socialist health care atrocity will be here to stay.

I guess we just have to pray for miracles!


25 posted on 10/19/2009 10:07:51 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Cheerio

Frankly, I doubt they care at all about polling data. The radicals who presently control the Democrat Party intend to drive public opinion by means of crisis creation and media manipulation. They will demonize the opposition even as they plan to impose practical controls on their power and influence. The escalating war on Fox News and the movement toward re-regulation of broadcast content point the way to what they intend for us.


26 posted on 10/19/2009 10:21:20 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

Polls are transient. The Left needs to ram their agenda thru NOW, ASAP, then they can spend the bulk of 2010 manipulating public opinion to poll back where needed by November. They’ve already burned too much time on health care; expect the rest to go thru fast.


27 posted on 10/19/2009 10:25:39 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Mr. Obama, I will not join your plantation.)
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To: andy58-in-nh
The radicals who presently control the Democrat Party intend to drive public opinion by means of crisis creation and media manipulation.

You are correct of course. Watch for the child messiah's Reichstag fire - then he will complete the takeover.
28 posted on 10/19/2009 11:13:50 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio

There will be. IMHO, there won’t be too many military or police that will fire on civilians. They will either join up or stay neutral.

Stock up on reloading equipment! Although that’s a hot seller too.

My biggest fear is if CW2 is on, the enemies (Muzzies, Russia, China, et al) will attack.


29 posted on 10/19/2009 11:37:23 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA ("Henceforth, you shall be known as...'Nobel Obama'".)
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