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Government to get special swine flu vaccine
The Local (Germany's News in English) ^ | October 19, 2009 | Editor

Posted on 10/19/2009 9:04:10 AM PDT by Jewbacca

Just a week after it emerged that the German armed forces was getting a different kind of A/H1N1 vaccine to the general population, Der Spiegel magazine reports that the government will also get special treatment. The general population will be offered the GlaxoSmithKline vaccine, called Pandemrix, which contains a new booster element, or adjuvant, as well as a preservative containing mercury. Controversy has grown around the rapid licensing of the GSK vaccine – and a similar one being made by Novartis. Critics said not enough testing had been conducted before European licensing authorities rushed an approval. Chancellor Angela Merkel, her cabinet members and ministry civil servants as well as those working for other agencies will get Celvapan, produced by US firm Baxter, which does not have the adjuvant or the preservative, according to Der Spiegel.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Germany; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adjuvant; flu; government; h1n1; influenza; mercury; obamacare; pigflu; special; swineflu; swineflue; swinefluvaccine; vaccine
ObamaCare in Action.
1 posted on 10/19/2009 9:04:11 AM PDT by Jewbacca
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To: Jewbacca; Smokin' Joe

Ping


2 posted on 10/19/2009 9:06:01 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

I will keep my kids home from school all winter if that’s what it takes to avoid this crap.


3 posted on 10/19/2009 9:06:47 AM PDT by montag813 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell)
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To: Jewbacca

Meanwhile, here in MA, Gov. Patrick has ordered that the first people to get swine flu vaccine are prison inmates. Not healthcare workers, not children, not seniors; convicted criminals.


4 posted on 10/19/2009 9:08:21 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Jewbacca

It’s virtually an admission that there are different statistical risks between different products and of course our lovely GOVERNMENT will decide who and where what risk will be taken.

Facts, need not apply.


5 posted on 10/19/2009 9:08:31 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: pabianice

There is actually some logic to that; they are filthy, stupid, and living in cramped conditions -— and the taxpayer has to provide their care.

Just imagine a whole prison with this stuff.


6 posted on 10/19/2009 9:09:22 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: pabianice

Somehow I don’t mind the inmates being used as guinea pigs.


7 posted on 10/19/2009 9:09:24 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: Jewbacca

Hmmm.

So which one is being delayed-distributed to Americans? GlaxoSmithKlein, Novartis, or Baxter?

I think I’ll take whatever Dingy Harry and Nancy are having. Not to mention the One.


8 posted on 10/19/2009 9:10:46 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: montag813

I’ve actually had the pig flu. I was pretty damn miserable — and that was with Tamiflu.

I got the Tamiflu early (thanks to a friendly doctor friend). I still had the freezing/fever in waves, but they were “distant” like an echo, so I wasn’t in the bed shivering and wanting to die.


9 posted on 10/19/2009 9:11:05 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca
All Animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

Animal Farm
George Orwell
1965

Obama World (2009)

10 posted on 10/19/2009 9:13:50 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jewbacca
Flu vaccine, take your pick...


11 posted on 10/19/2009 9:16:33 AM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: Jim from C-Town

“All Animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”

Yep. This is exactly what will happen with ObamaCare.

Two or more tiers of care will appear with ObamaCare. Our masters in the government will get all the best.


12 posted on 10/19/2009 9:17:02 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Cicero

I find it telling that the “betters” in the German government get the privately-manufactured American one from our “failed” health system, while the peons in Germany get the socialized-medicine produced one.

A pretty clear admission of what statement produces the superior product.


13 posted on 10/19/2009 9:20:00 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca
Oh....I thought perhaps government leaders required special inoculation, due to their piggish habits....
14 posted on 10/19/2009 9:21:27 AM PDT by G Larry ( Obamacare=Dying in Line!)
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To: pabianice

Patrick is just trying to protect the Dem voting block.


15 posted on 10/19/2009 9:21:34 AM PDT by khnyny (We did it for the show!!)
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To: Jewbacca

I hate to show my sci-fi side. But per “ANGEL” Did any one else notice the name of the Doc.

Wolf-Ram Hart-Mann

Yeah, I know but that’s the only time I ever saw that name.


16 posted on 10/19/2009 9:31:54 AM PDT by georgiabelle
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To: Jewbacca

The amount of murcury is miniscule- (and htose worried abotu cavities being filled with murcury need not be so worried- it woudl take approx. 300 teeth all filled with fillings to get a toxic level of murcury- Even given environmental ingestion of murcury- it’s not likely we’ll even approach toxic levels- not that ANY amount is good, but I always worried abotu fillings until I learned this)

Not sure what other Adjuvents are included in flu shots?


17 posted on 10/19/2009 9:36:16 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Jewbacca

One contains a “new booster element.”
Well that makes me want to run out and get it!
I see that perhaps we could obtain one w/o thimerosal, but how do we know if it has that squalene stuff in it, which also may be bad?


18 posted on 10/19/2009 9:38:03 AM PDT by GnuHere
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To: pabianice

Those of you in Massachusetts need to rise up and take this fool to the town square and hang him.
Then leave him there for a week or so for all to see.

How do you keep voting for this kind of ‘leader’??


19 posted on 10/19/2009 9:41:33 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Jewbacca

Im betting Obama and “friends” will get this special brew also


20 posted on 10/19/2009 9:42:42 AM PDT by eak3
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To: Jewbacca

[[One 6 oz can of white chunk tuna contains about 52 micrograms of mercury (in the form of methyl mercury)
http://www.pbs.org/now/science/mercuryin…;

Flu vaccines contain 25 micrograms of mercury (in the form of ethyl mercury).
“25 µg/0.5 ml dose”
http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccine…;
]]

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091017183743AAybmGw


21 posted on 10/19/2009 9:43:20 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: GnuHere

From what I’m reading, only hte larger doses (multiple doses) ones will have Thermirosol- not sure about the other one you mentioned though


22 posted on 10/19/2009 9:44:56 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Jewbacca

Prison inmates will be the canaries.


23 posted on 10/19/2009 9:48:05 AM PDT by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire at the moonbat loonery.)
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To: CottShop

The mercury does not seem like a big deal, nor even the “booster” (although it may be).

I suspect the quality control of the private, for profit, company, however is superior to that of the communist Eurpoe version.

No other reason to have a two-tiered system.


24 posted on 10/19/2009 9:48:59 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: Jewbacca
Read: "special swine flu vaccine"= the one that actually works and isn't watered down!
25 posted on 10/19/2009 9:53:41 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: pabianice

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot alert!! :-o


26 posted on 10/19/2009 9:54:32 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: Jewbacca
I've had this flu too. My flight surgeon told me, only the most healthy are getting really sick.

I never get the flu, if catch anything i burn fever for 12 hours and wake up fine, this flu kicked my butt, 3 days fever/chills now i have the return of the deep cough.

27 posted on 10/19/2009 9:54:47 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Jewbacca

I’m trying to see the down side to this, and am having a hard time doing so—convicts should be FIRST?!

Eh, NO.


28 posted on 10/19/2009 9:55:40 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: pillut48

[[I’m trying to see the down side to this, and am having a hard time doing so—convicts should be FIRST?!]]

Correction- Nancy Pelosi, Reid, Durbin, Barney Frank, Obama, and the rest of the comunist....errrr I mean liberals, should get it first- then the prisoners


29 posted on 10/19/2009 9:59:57 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop

Same difference, though, isn’t it? Just some haven’t been “convicted”—YET.


30 posted on 10/19/2009 10:10:54 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: pillut48

Yes, not to save them, but to prevent creation of a super bug that goes out among the people

Prisoners are like queers (and many are queers, too). They do stupid, unhealthy things. They have lots of physical contact. They don’t take their medicine timely.

As a result, nasty diseases come out of prisons quickly, and spread to the general population.


31 posted on 10/19/2009 10:12:35 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: pillut48

[[Same difference, though, isn’t it? Just some haven’t been “convicted”—YET.]]

Lol- yep- some commit crimes with impunity (public officials)


32 posted on 10/19/2009 10:23:36 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Jewbacca; freekitty; Nachum; Free ThinkerNY; basil; PhiKapMom; GOP_Lady; RushIsMyTeddyBear; ...

Zero, his family, the Administration in total, and Congress needs the same vaccine foisted upon the American people. Case closed.


33 posted on 10/19/2009 10:43:10 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: George from New England
It’s virtually an admission that there are different statistical risks between different products and of course our lovely GOVERNMENT will decide who and where what risk will be taken.

If true, it's little more than a signal that some in the government read the ravings of the woo woos and believed.

However, I'm about done defending the vaccine from hyperbole. If someone wants to risk H1N1, fine. I am having trouble finding a shot for myself. I suppose if an internet poster doesn't want to get one for whatever reason, I am that much more likely to find one for myself.
34 posted on 10/19/2009 10:50:29 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I agree.


35 posted on 10/19/2009 10:54:43 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Jewbacca; pabianice; ExTexasRedhead
I am surprised that Glaxo would be manufacturing a vaccine containing thimoseral, the mercury-containing preservative that some claim is linked to autism in children. To the best of my knowledge, thimoseral had been discontinued in all childhood vaccines about 15 years ago.

Even though there is no definitive scientific proof of a link between thimoseral-containing vaccines and autism, vaccine manufacturers have been hit with big losses in some lawsuits. One would think that the vaccine makers would have learned from that experience.

36 posted on 10/19/2009 1:51:05 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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